Rick 2,271 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said: Yeah I agree. I'm all for defending the club but cant get my head around this one?! It's a huge risk. Especially with the injury record of both Matip and to a lesser extent, Gomez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Maybe Lovren has requested to leave? But yeah, given Gomez and Matip have their fair share of injury problems, it would leave us short. I suppose Fabinho can cover there though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Maybe Lovren has requested to leave? But yeah, given Gomez and Matip have their fair share of injury problems, it would leave us short. I suppose Fabinho can cover there though He probably has, but the club haven't known his stance before the window opened? Not getting in a suitable replacement if we were gonna let him go was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rick said: He probably has, but the club haven't known his stance before the window opened? Not getting in a suitable replacement if we were gonna let him go was stupid. Don't necessarily disagree but maybe Klopp is happy with his options there? In the event of a crisis, maybe he is happy to turn to Fabinho or one of the young lads. Is there any point in spending £10m+ on some bang average centre half if it blocks the pathway to the first team for one of the kids? I can see it from that point of view too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Maybe we're gonna keep selling until we regain the underdog status again...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted August 13, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 13, 2019 Liverpool will accept an offer of 15m euros (£13.9m) plus bonuses for Croatia centre-back Dejan Lovren, 30, amid interest from AC Milan and Roma. (Liverpool Echo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Harry said: Maybe we're gonna keep selling until we regain the underdog status again...? You already see us as underdog in most games anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, LFCMike said: You already see us as underdog in most games anyway That way my expectations can only be exceeded when we get the 3 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Harry said: That way my expectations can only be exceeded when we get the 3 points! Aye but you'd be pessimistic of us going into a game against Rochdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Apparently he doesn't want to stay on as 4th choice and wants to be starting somewhere, so the club will let him move if they get a decent offer. Also I'd just heard a crazy stat and I don't know if it's true - but he's never played more than 7 matches in a row with us... and he's been with us for 5 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 10 hours ago, LFCMike said: Maybe Lovren has requested to leave? But yeah, given Gomez and Matip have their fair share of injury problems, it would leave us short. I suppose Fabinho can cover there though I read earlier that that's essentially why we're letting him go, which seems mad to me. Fabinho can cover centre half, but then we lose our only natural holding midfielder. Henderson or Wijnaldum can cover there, but then we lose one of our most important centre mids. Bear in mind our fullback cover is already a starting CB (Gomez) and the midfielder who played the most minutes for us last season (Milner, apparently; cba to look it up). It's serious patchwork stuff and I think we're setting ourselves up for disaster at some point It makes financial sense, though. You wouldn't forecast Lovren playing many minutes and this is pretty much our last chance to get a good fee for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Burning Gold said: I read earlier that that's essentially why we're letting him go, which seems mad to me. Fabinho can cover centre half, but then we lose our only natural holding midfielder. Henderson or Wijnaldum can cover there, but then we lose one of our most important centre mids. Bear in mind our fullback cover is already a starting CB (Gomez) and the midfielder who played the most minutes for us last season (Milner, apparently; cba to look it up). It's serious patchwork stuff and I think we're setting ourselves up for disaster at some point It makes financial sense, though. You wouldn't forecast Lovren playing many minutes and this is pretty much our last chance to get a good fee for him We aren't even getting a good fee in today's market, although getting him off the wage bill would free up plenty of money. Still think it's a mistake though, for most of the reasons you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: I read earlier that that's essentially why we're letting him go, which seems mad to me. Fabinho can cover centre half, but then we lose our only natural holding midfielder. Henderson or Wijnaldum can cover there, but then we lose one of our most important centre mids. Bear in mind our fullback cover is already a starting CB (Gomez) and the midfielder who played the most minutes for us last season (Milner, apparently; cba to look it up). It's serious patchwork stuff and I think we're setting ourselves up for disaster at some point It makes financial sense, though. You wouldn't forecast Lovren playing many minutes and this is pretty much our last chance to get a good fee for him Melissa Reddy is saying Klopp want's a clearer path for Sepp van den Berg - https://www.espn.co.uk/football/soccer-transfers/story/3919918/sources-liverpool-in-talks-to-sell-lovren-to-roma and there's now multiple reports that while Lovren would like to stay at Liverpool, he doesn't want to be 4th choice CB - which he now sees himself as (and he is...). Financially it also makes sense to the club. Although in my eyes, it's pretty risky putting that much faith in a kid. Lovren, Matip and Gomez all have pretty poor injury track records (although Gomez's last injury was a broken leg, so hopefully that's just a freak injury). At the same time, we've probably signed this Dutch kid for a reason and if after pre-season Klopp wants to give him a clearer path to the first team, that's probably a good thing for us in the long run. Still feels like a mistake though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 @Burning Gold hit the nail on the head. Our defensive cover is players who play in midfield, which is terrible planning. If Robbo gets injured, no doubt Klopp puts Milner in at left back. If both Matip and Gomez are injured we end up with Firmino slotting back in. Either Klopp is seriously rolling the dice on us having another major injury-free season or the club has told him there are no pennies to spend this summer. Both of those options are equally ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rick said: @Burning Gold hit the nail on the head. Our defensive cover is players who play in midfield, which is terrible planning. If Robbo gets injured, no doubt Klopp puts Milner in at left back. If both Matip and Gomez are injured we end up with Firmino slotting back in. Either Klopp is seriously rolling the dice on us having another major injury-free season or the club has told him there are no pennies to spend this summer. Both of those options are equally ridiculous. Bit extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Haha *Fabinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted August 16, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 16, 2019 Liverpool and Croatia defender Dejan Lovren, 30, is close to securing a move to Serie A side Roma in a £23m deal. (Calcio Mercato via Mirror) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Well at least the dollars have doubled now. 23m isn't terrible, though I still think he's worth more to us particularly right now with the depth we have and the window closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Good, cause I can't be arsed with a centre back crisis to go a long with the goalkeeper one we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The important question to be asking here is can Dejan Lovren play in goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 22, 2019 Liverpool's out-of-favour Croatia defender Dejan Lovren, 30, is attracting the interest of German side Bayer Leverkusen after failing to secure a move to Roma. (Bild - in German) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted August 28, 2019 Roma are preparing to make a fresh move for Liverpool and Croatia defender Dejan Lovren, 30. (Corriere dello Sport - in Italian) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,358 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Subscriber Share Posted September 5, 2019 Liverpool defender Dejan Lovren, 30, says he considered moves to both AC Milan and Roma this summer. (Sportske Novosti via Liverpool Echo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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