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F1 Silly Season 2020

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Because it's almost THAT time of the year...

Will Ocon be the first to start the domino effect of driver changes for 2020?

Who will take Mercedes second seat?

What will happen with Haas driver lineup? 

Will Hülkenberg leave Renault?

Who will replace Gasly in RB?

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Is Bottas definitely leaving Mercedes then? I can't see Max going there if so as much as it would be a phenomenal fight between he and Lewis in 2 excellent cars.

 

Can we lose Grosjean please? 

Surely Albon or Kvyat (most likely him) will replace Gasly? Perhaps Gasly to Renault if Hulk leaves?

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Just now, Stan said:

Is Bottas definitely leaving Mercedes then?

Noooo just a speculation at this point! 

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1 minute ago, nudge said:

Noooo just a speculation at this point! 

Was wondering as well because Hamilton reportedly said he wouldn't mind Max joining him at Mercedes so it could prove how good a driver he is as opposed to just being in a good car. I stress reportedly said; I haven't seen any direct quotes!

If it were to happen, I can only imagine there'd be a lot of controversy and immense rivalry like when Rosberg was there.

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Just now, Stan said:

Was wondering as well because Hamilton reportedly said he wouldn't mind Max joining him at Mercedes so it could prove how good a driver he is as opposed to just being in a good car. I stress reportedly said; I haven't seen any direct quotes!

If it were to happen, I can only imagine there'd be a lot of controversy and immense rivalry like when Rosberg was there.

Yeah I read that too; however, I think it's very unlikely.

Helmut Marko indirectly confirmed Max's release clause in the contract and apparently tomorrow is the last day when it's "mathematically possible" - to be specific, in order for the clause to activate Vettel would have to win the race tomorrow and Max would have to score no points. Meaning the clause is most likely about Max being in the Top 3 in the driver's standings after the first half of the season. Even if that would be the case, I don't think Max will leave RBR. He knows he's #1 driver there and they'd do anything for him; now with Honda and RB15 making massive progress enabling him to win races (and to challenge for the pole as of today), the whole package works well and he should have a realistic chance to win the title next season. 

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I cant see too many changes. Kvyat seems most likely to go back to Red Bull with Gasly getting another year in Toro Rosso. Renault may replace Hulkenberg. I think Grosjean will be replaced by Ocon, or someone else if Ocon gets the Mercedes seat. If Bottas leaves Mercedes then Renault or Haas would be his likely options, but I cant see Renault affording the wages for him and Ricciardo. Bottas could also end up at Williams, who will surely sack off Kubica. Racing Point will probably stay with Perez and Stroll.

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Would any more youngsters/newbies come in to the field? Wonder if Williams would look at replacing Kubica with a youngster to get some experience in. 

3 minutes ago, nudge said:

Yeah I read that too; however, I think it's very unlikely.

Helmut Marko indirectly confirmed Max's release clause in the contract and apparently tomorrow is the last day when it's "mathematically possible" - to be specific, in order for the clause to activate Vettel would have to win the race tomorrow and Max would have to score no points. Meaning the clause is most likely about Max being in the Top 3 in the driver's standings after the first half of the season. Even if that would be the case, I don't think Max will leave RBR. He knows he's #1 driver there and they'd do anything for him; now with Honda and RB15 making massive progress enabling him to win races (and to challenge for the pole as of today), the whole package works well and he should have a realistic chance to win the title next season. 

Yeah, it's a perfect match right now. If Red Bull weren't as competitive right now I think Max would angle for a move.

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1 minute ago, Stan said:

Would any more youngsters/newbies come in to the field? Wonder if Williams would look at replacing Kubica with a youngster to get some experience in. 

Could see them bringing Latifi in. Is challenging for the title in F2 this season, had a few tests for Williams and matched or even bettered Kubica's times and has a rich father who is willing to pay for the seat.

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A few wild speculations:

Ocon to Mercedes.
Bottas to Red Bull.
Gasly to Renault.
Hülkenberg to Sauber.

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1 hour ago, nudge said:


Hülkenberg to Sauber.

For Gio you reckon? It'd be a shame if he's without a seat next season. 

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1 hour ago, Tommy said:

For Gio you reckon? It'd be a shame if he's without a seat next season. 

Yeah... I think Kimi will fulfill his contract and stay one more year; and I'm not sure if Ferrari will keep Giovinazzi's seat at Sauber - I mean he hasn't been great (although he's most likely made look worse because of Kimi over-delivering) and they might be tempted to give a seat to someone else...

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I still think Red Bull are too stubborn to take somebody from outside of their junior driver programme. Things seem to have run dry outside of the four guys currently in F1 with Ticktum being fucked off, so maybe, but I think if they do go for someone outside the programme, they'll adopt a young driver to go into Toro Rosso and take it from there with them.

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30 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

I still think Red Bull are too stubborn to take somebody from outside of their junior driver programme. Things seem to have run dry outside of the four guys currently in F1 with Ticktum being fucked off, so maybe, but I think if they do go for someone outside the programme, they'll adopt a young driver to go into Toro Rosso and take it from there with them.

I'm pretty excited about Jüri Vips' potential. One of the most underrated drivers on the junior formula ladder and the biggest talent that Red Bull have in their junior programme, in my opinion. Wouldn't be surprised to see him given a Toro Rosso seat soon though next year is most likely too soon.

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4 hours ago, nudge said:

A few wild speculations:

Ocon to Mercedes.
Bottas to Red Bull.
Gasly to Renault.
Hülkenberg to Sauber.

I'd rather see Renault bring up Zhou than give Gasly a shot. Might be the unpopular choice, but itd be interesting than see Gasly.

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53 minutes ago, Eco said:

I'd rather see Renault bring up Zhou than give Gasly a shot. Might be the unpopular choice, but itd be interesting than see Gasly.

All three Renault youngsters have been impressing so far this season. Don't think either of them will have enough super license points for the next season though - even if Renault decided to give one of them a shout in F1.

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5 minutes ago, nudge said:

All three Renault youngsters have been impressing so far this season. Don't think either of them will have enough super license points for the next season though - even if Renault decided to give one of them a shout in F1.

Yeah - I dont know anything about that, but I love the team we have, but I feel like something HAS to change. Is it possible that Cyril is gone?

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35 minutes ago, Eco said:

Yeah - I dont know anything about that, but I love the team we have, but I feel like something HAS to change. Is it possible that Cyril is gone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_Super_Licence

As for Abiteboul - I don't know if it's possible but I think replacing him would surely be a step in the right direction.

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I don't think Gasly will find another seat outside of the Red Bull/Toro Rosso stable at this moment in time, if he is dropped.

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I just hope that Alonso doesn't come back. 

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Is this summer break when we start hearing about changes?

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16 minutes ago, Eco said:

Is this summer break when we start hearing about changes?

Yep. Usually one change in one team starts a domino effect in the rest of them xD 

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3 minutes ago, nudge said:

Yep. Usually one change in one team starts a domino effect in the rest of them xD 

So what's the likelihood we  hear of Gasly's demotion this month? 90%? 100%?

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1 minute ago, Eco said:

So what's the likelihood we  hear of Gasly's demotion this month? 90%? 100%?

Hmmm I don't know. Yesterday Horner said that their intention is to keep him in the car until the end of the year but that they also badly need him to start realising more of the car's potential and start racing Mercedes and Ferrari instead of Saubers and McLarens. Earlier both Horner and Marko said that he's being given more time than they would normally give to a driver underperforming like that because they realise they rushed him into the team too early due to Ricciardo's departure. 

But at the moment I'd say it's 50/50. 

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My prediction is:-

 

Mercedes - Hamilton, Ocon

Ferrari - Vettel, Leclerc

Red Bull - Verstappen, Kvyatt

Mclaren - Sainz, Norris

Renault - Ricciardo, Bottas

Toro Rosso - Albon, Gasley

Racing Point - Stroll, Perez

Alfa Romeo - Raikkonnen, Giovanazi

Haas - Magnussen, Hulkenberg

Williams - Russell, Latifi

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On 06/08/2019 at 22:37, MUFC said:

Haas - Magnussen, Hulkenberg

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Been doing some reading on next year's driver market:

https://www.racefans.net/2019/07/31/silly-season-or-sensible-season-the-state-of-the-driver-market-for-2020/

Race Fans is a really good website for F1 stuff. Been following since it was called F1Fanatic back in 2008-2009. Very intelligent and insightful articles usually. Reliable information too.

Some of the key points:

- Mercedes will choose between Ocon and Bottas. Hamilton probably prefers Bottas to stay.

- Hulkenberg is likely to stay at Renault, but not impossible he could put himself in the frame for the second Red Bull seat, or more likely move to Formula E.

- Renault are considering Ocon (or Bottas if Ocon takes his seat at Mercedes) to partner Ricciardo instead of Hulkenberg. 

- One other team has expressed an interest in Ocon, probably Haas, who would look to replace Grosjean with Ocon. If Renault sign Ocon, Hulkenberg in the Haas with Magnussen is possible.

- Racing Point are most likely to keep Stroll and Perez.

- Ferrari and Red Bull are negotiating a Verstappen-Vettel swap deal. Max's father sees him moving to Ferrari at some point soon in his career and emulating Schumacher's achievements there. Apparently the chances that this swap happens, this year or next, are more than 50/50!

- Kvyat and Albon are both options to replace Gasly next year. Kvyat is the more likely option. If Red Bull dump Gasly altogether instead of giving him another chance in Toro Rosso, they could even return Buemi to F1 as Albon's team mate.

- McLaren have already confirmed Sainz and Norris for 2020.

- Raikkonen has a contract with Alfa Romeo for next year, and Giovinazzi is likely to keep his seat as Ferrari have no other academy drivers ready to put into that seat instead of him.

- Russell will stay with Williams, but Kubica won't stay on next year. Nicolas Latifi is the favourite to replace him due to his heavy financial backing and improved F2 results. Other current F2 drivers are also options including Nyck De Vries.

Interesting stuff, some more likely than others I'd say. 

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1 hour ago, RandoEFC said:

- Ferrari and Red Bull are negotiating a Verstappen-Vettel swap deal. Max's father sees him moving to Ferrari at some point soon in his career and emulating Schumacher's achievements there. Apparently the chances that this swap happens, this year or next, are more than 50/50!

There have been rumours about Seb returning to Red Bull for quite some time, as he seems to stay close to his old colleagues. But he mentioned on several occasions that he'll either try to win a championship with Ferrari or quit altogether, no other options. So I really doubt it. 

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Autobild reports that Ocon is close to signing a two year deal with Renault! 

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52 minutes ago, nudge said:

Autobild reports that Ocon is close to signing a two year deal with Renault! 

This news, along with Gunther Steiner's comments that they want an experienced driver and Haas "won't be a training ground", are making the incredible potential pairing of Magnussen and Hulkenberg at Haas edge closer to reality.

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Mercedes going for Hülkenberg would be amazing :x A man can dream. 

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