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1 minute ago, Burning Gold said:

Your criticism is that they don't stop the clock? That seems like something that would be fairly easy to correct

I had another criticism of your comparison too, which you clearly ignored and just skipped straight to the moving clock.

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3 minutes ago, Eco said:

Didn't watch any of those matches, but the amount of matches decided on blantant missed call before VAR is a MUCH larger list. 

Any facts to prove this?

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6 minutes ago, Grizzly21 said:

Any facts to prove this?

It's called basic knowledge. Football existed over 100 years before VAR. Argually the craziest WC moment was decided on a handball that should have never stood, Ireland didn't qualify for the Euro because of a Henry handball, all massive moments in history decided because their was no assistance. You just listed some minor matches (outside of the Brazil), and I gave you two massive matches. 

I don't need facts to prove it, just I don't need facts to prove the sky is blue. It just is. xD

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3 minutes ago, Eco said:

It's called basic knowledge. Football existed over 100 years before VAR. Argually the craziest WC moment was decided on a handball that should have never stood, Ireland didn't qualify for the Euro because of a Henry handball, all massive moments in history decided because their was no assistance. You just listed some minor matches (outside of the Brazil), and I gave you two massive matches. 

I don't need facts to prove it, just I don't need facts to prove the sky is blue. It just is. xD

Ah I misunderstood your post. Sorry.

However, all those matches are major. All these teams have big fan bases. They are just as relevant as each other.

VAR doesn’t have a long lifespan but give it 20 years and we’ll have a big list like the one you posted about that VAR has missed.

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3 minutes ago, Grizzly21 said:

Ah I misunderstood your post. Sorry.

However, all those matches are major. All these teams have big fan bases. They are just as relevant as each other.

VAR doesn’t have a long lifespan but give it 20 years and we’ll have a big list like the one you posted about that VAR has missed.

haha I figured as much. 

Yeah, so it's not perfect, and no one has said it is. But it's MUCH better than what we had before. At least, IMO. 

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15 minutes ago, Burning Gold said:

Bear in mind all of the decisions being made by VAR are big, match changing decisions, and should in theory be close ones, then yes I'd say it absolutely is worth it

Good point; I can honestly see both sides of the argument. Personally, I've been disappointed with its implementation (in the Bundesliga) so far - hopefully it improves in the future; maybe all it needs is just more competent people making decisions and better communication.

12 minutes ago, Eco said:

And I'll how my ignornace, but I can't think of any game that was decicded by VAR and was blantantly the wrong call. 

Plenty of where VAR failed to intervene altogether last season (especially when it comes to penalties; the biggest for me obviously our cup semifinal match against Bayern where VAR didn't intervene when Coman dived and was awarded a penalty late in the game giving Bayern a win); a few where they intervened leading to a wrong decision (penalty for Schalke against BVB; penalty for Frankfurt against Schalke in the last minute of the match comes to mind as examples here). 

My point is, VAR, while helpful in many cases, still has plenty of shortcomings and for me it's been way too chaotic so far. Fair enough if you don't think it has a negative effect on the flow of the game; personally I've been annoyed by it on way too many cases. The most hilarious one was giving a penalty for Mainz against Freiburg in half time when almost all players were back to the dressing room already xD 

 

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On 21/09/2022 at 01:21, Devil-Dick Willie said:

1. Stop the fucking clock when the ball is out of play. Resume when it resumes. 

2. Find fair and equitable ways to help out struggling teams and cap bigger behemoths ala the NFL and ice hockey.

NFL barely has a cap and the contract structures fuck a lot of players. NHL has a much stronger CBA and union. NFL contracts are so favoured towards the teams it is ridiculous, unless they are a freak star player most players are definitely not making as much as they should be.Nad it is fucked because these teams are billion dollar behemoths, every single one of them, their are no ‘underdogs’ in NFL. 

A lot of teams focus their games around the strengths of their running game, spearheaded mainly by the running backs, it is also the most brutal position to play. A running back has a career average of 2.5 seasons, a rookie contract lasts three seasons. Most teams just grind a literal superstar into dust in two seasons, bin him when his rookie contract has expired, and get another young dumb fool to play, most end their career on their rookie contracts, having barely made money equivalent to the level of fame and success. Christian McCaffrey is a record breaking running back, the best in the league on a four year $64,000,000 contract un-guaranteed, but Deshaun Watson a good quarterback but not the best by a longshot, and a rapist that hasn’t played in two years because he didn’t want to play one season, and then raped 23 women was recently given $300,000,000 guaranteed. That’s fucking ridiculous.. 

I know you were specifically talking about caps and not contract structures but I feel that a cap will affect the structure and hows, whys, and whats, of player contracts. The NFL is a very bad example of this. Shit, I’d say that AFL and NRL do a better job of salary caps than the NFL. EXCEPT THE Melbourne Storm.

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