Subscriber Dan+ 1,915 Posted September 24, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Grizzly21 said: To be fair, I can only see 2 City players getting into the team - De Bruyne and Aguero. That said, I think I've seen more of City this season than last, so I could just be talking out of my arse but from what I have seen this year and what I've read, it's no different to last that De Bruyne and Aguero are the 2 stars. Would you have put Kante over Modric? Tough to say but I don't know who else would go there. I definitely wouldn't have Luka in there though. De Bruyne shouldn't be in it because he was injured for most of last season. Bernardo and Sterling had better cases than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Van Dijk was a beast last season but we all know how these awards work. If they gave these out to defenders the likes of Baresi, Ayala etc would have won years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Cicero said: KDB was injured like 3/4 of last season Messi voted for Mané Van Dijk voted for Messi Ronaldo voted for De Ligt Can you imagine Messi or Ronaldo voting for a genuine rival for the award? Van Dijk has a real humility and modesty about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted September 24, 2019 Administrator Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: Can you imagine Messi or Ronaldo voting for a genuine rival for the award? Van Dijk has a real humility and modesty about him. Messi put Ronaldo in 2nd tbf. Not sure who else Ronaldo voted for, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Stan said: Messi put Ronaldo in 2nd tbf. Not sure who else Ronaldo voted for, mind. De Jong and Mbappe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 13 hours ago, SirBalon said: 26 minutes ago, Stan said: Messi put Ronaldo in 2nd tbf. Not sure who else Ronaldo voted for, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: Can you imagine Messi or Ronaldo voting for a genuine rival for the award? Van Dijk has a real humility and modesty about him. Messi voted for Cristiano in second place after Mané Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue 971 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I am just surprised someone is shocked Messi got a reward for best player, it is either him or Ronaldo for the past decade in any type of individual award. Modrić won it by mistake and the UEFA officials we're embarrassed and went with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,825 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Forget Messi, Ronaldo etc, lets recognise the fact that Leeds United are the fairest team in all the world. You can see the impact it's had on the football world immediately. Should we go up, Mbappe has already agreed to join us given we're role models for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,915 Posted September 24, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted September 24, 2019 All the Derby fans are crying about that which is always a great sight to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 My top 5 1. Van Dijk 2. Sadio Mane 3. Son Heung Min 4. Mohamed Salah 5. Lionel Messi Some might call me out for that but in terms of who influenced the CL winner and finalist I'd say those 4 players are ahead of Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Except it doesn’t just look at CL. That award is specifically UEFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Cicero said: Except it doesn’t just look at CL. That award is specifically UEFA What do you mean? As in leagues as well or European Nations League? If that's the case I'd put it as a Liverpool sweep and then 4th or 5th would be a toss up between Son and Messi. Son did so well last year to help Spurs get to that final when you consider Spurs have a rough history and a weaker squad than Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 The whole thing is a massive contradiction though. Messi won the award despite not being the most influential and based on individual play alone, where as Megan Raphinoe won for her World Cup influence and her equal pay campaign, despite only starting 1 club match all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Grizzly21 said: What do you mean? As in leagues as well or European Nations League? If that's the case I'd put it as a Liverpool sweep and then 4th or 5th would be a toss up between Son and Messi. Son did so well last year to help Spurs get to that final when you consider Spurs have a rough history and a weaker squad than Barcelona. This is a fifa award. Which looks at everything. The Uefa awards a month ago was specifically for CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Cicero said: This is a fifa award. Which looks at everything. The Uefa awards a month ago was specifically for CL I'd still have Van Dijk ahead of Messi. It's not like his league campaign was bad and he got to the Nations League final, where as Messi only showed up in one game of the Copa America. Mane and Salah are tough to read really but Mane was pretty important in Senegal's AFCON run this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Grizzly21 said: I'd still have Van Dijk ahead of Messi. It's not like his league campaign was bad and he got to the Nations League final, where as Messi only showed up in one game of the Copa America. Mane and Salah are tough to read really but Mane was pretty important in Senegal's AFCON run this year. Barca would’ve genuinely finished 3rd without Messi. Barca have been the most uncompelling, yet Messi’s influence has been greater than ever. I’d say Van Dijk deserves the Uefa one but Messi deserves this and the Balon d’Or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,177 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 10 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: Can you imagine Messi or Ronaldo voting for a genuine rival for the award? Van Dijk has a real humility and modesty about him. Messi was also by far and away the best player Van Dijk went up against last season. Even when we had that comeback at Anfield, everything Barcelona created came through Messi. And at Camp Nou everything came through Messi - I think it's understandable he'd vote for Messi all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,271 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Cicero said: Barca would’ve genuinely finished 3rd without Messi. Barca have been the most uncompelling, yet Messi’s influence has been greater than ever. I’d say Van Dijk deserves the Uefa one but Messi deserves this and the Balon d’Or Bugger off, Van Dijk deserves the Balon d’Or. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris 2,606 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 24/09/2019 at 13:03, SirBalon said: Good to see Messi winning it either way as he was by far the deserving candidate if we are honest. He was also robbed of the last 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,365 Posted September 25, 2019 Administrator Share Posted September 25, 2019 Interesting that Ronaldo has never voted for Messi. Messi has reciprocated voting twice for Ronaldo. But Messi didn't vote for any Barca team-mate in 2018. Why didn't Ronaldo vote in 2011/12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,265 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, Stan said: Interesting that Ronaldo has never voted for Messi. Messi has reciprocated voting twice for Ronaldo. But Messi didn't vote for any Barca team-mate in 2018. Why didn't Ronaldo vote in 2011/12? Wasn’t in top 3 and/or didn’t captain the national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Unpopular opinion, but Van de Beek was better than Frenkie de Jong last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Grizzly21 said: Unpopular opinion, but Van de Beek was better than Frenkie de Jong last year. As good as Van de Beek was, it's an unpopular opinion because it's absolute rubbish mate. It comes under the term: "arguing for argument's sake", "trying to be difficultly different", "Wanting to be smart" or "off your head". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, SirBalon said: As good as Van de Beek was, it's an unpopular opinion because it's absolute rubbish mate. It comes under the term: "arguing for argument's sake", "trying to be difficultly different", "Wanting to be smart" or "off your head". It doesn't, Frenkie De Jong is class but I liked Van de Beek better last season at Ajax, at least when the Champions League is concerned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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