Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted October 20, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, DeadLinesman said: Maybe they're taught that in training sessions. Mane did exactly the same against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: He caught him that badly that he injured his other leg in the process Still a foul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said: Still a foul Didn’t say it wasn’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Anyway, thought Lallana had a good game today. I've been critical of him in the past for not making enough of a tangible impact, but he was threatening and constantly involved when he came on. Really pleased for him that he got himself on the scoresheet. Feels like that could be "the" moment people look back fondly on when they think about his time at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, DeadLinesman said: Didn’t say it wasn’t? Fair enough mate. I thought that was what you were saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Gunnersauraus said: Fair enough mate. I thought that was what you were saying That’s the whole VAR argument though. There’s Liverpool fans that didn’t think it was a foul to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: That’s the whole VAR argument though. There’s Liverpool fans that didn’t think it was a foul to be fair. We are not taking about brexit sorry var again today Although it does prove klopp was wrong about it being clear an obvious. I like klopp but I don't like his excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Lol Ole’s even said Atkinson was their man of the match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teso dos Bichos 1,019 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Same cunts that are still rattled by that "foul" were rather quiet against the biggest robbery of the century "newcastle vs liverscum " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Grizzly21 said: I am not the issue, regardless of what you want to believe. I didn't attack anyone until I got attacked. Claiming I only put in ridiculous arguments, the other day Eco saying I am ignorant and a headache for saying football isn't popular in the States. None of that is my fault cos I was just debating my points. Again, saying how its a pattern with me doesn't make it true. If you're going to talk about me, might as well tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, DeadLinesman said: That’s the whole VAR argument though. There’s Liverpool fans that didn’t think it was a foul to be fair. Yeah - when I watched it I thought it was a foul, but not as clear cut as some believe. But that's an issue I see with VAR. Are ref's going to NOT call a foul because it's borderline, but also upon further review not reverse it because it's not 100 percent clear, whereas before VAR they would have called that a foul? That's my only issue with VAR as a whole. not this particular instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,174 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Even Gary Neville said it should have been disallowed I’m just glad that Solskjaer has so many pals in the media. Would Scholes have called today’s performance good if it were under Mourinho? Probably not. Would Keene sit there grinning after the United manager said the ref was their best performer at home to Liverpool if it wasn’t his mate? Not so sure. The press plays a big part in shaping public narrative. The media played a big part in saving Roy Hodgson’s skin for a few months after it was evident he should have been sacked with us... and Solskjaer is getting an even easier ride than Hodgson. I’ve seen a lot of United fans elsewhere saying that’s their best performance of the season. But it’s against us at Old Trafford, a fixture where they always put in a good performance. Have United actually improved under Solskjaer? I should probably consult @RandoEFC’s point differential thread to see the comparison between this season and last season. But on the face of it they haven’t. And that’s after a big spending summer. And even though we got a point from the same fixture last year, if Ole’s plan was to shut us down... he did a worse job of it than he did last year. Despite having made 2 big signings in defense (one of whom cost more than our whole back 4 lol). I saw some Manc post something about Solskjaer’s friendly relationship with so many in the media (and the fact he seems like a nice guy probably helps him out with the pundits who aren’t ex-United players as well) meaning he doesn’t get anywhere near the criticism that fan thinks he should... and it got me thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: On var most of your arguments have been bad. On most subjects you are very good. You put a good argument the other day for why you thought Japan is better than Mexico. Which I actually said you had a good point on. I don't give you any credit on your var arguments because they are terrible and based to much on emotion. An opinion based on emotion can be reasonable when the arguments are about the disruption of the game and the impact as a spectator event. To some extent the VAR is a head, and anti VAR is a heart perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue 971 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Both goals by Rashford and Mane shouldn't have stood the later didn't obviously. Shearer said on sky that not once the ref's approached the VAR screen to review the situation this season. Why is there the option for it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted October 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, True Blue said: Both goals by Rashford and Mane shouldn't have stood the later didn't obviously. Shearer said on sky that not once the ref's approached the VAR screen to review the situation this season. Why is there the option for it at all? Think I have said it before but the Premier League is one of the very few places where its frowned upon to go to the monitor and review the VAR output. Which makes no sense to me as its there for a reason so use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, True Blue said: Both goals by Rashford and Mane shouldn't have stood the later didn't obviously. Shearer said on sky that not once the ref's approached the VAR screen to review the situation this season. Why is there the option for it at all? I would've preferred both goals be let stand tbh. The tackle was miles away from the Liverpool goal, the United players did well to get it down the other end and score. The moment to pull it back had passed. With Mane he didnt intend to touch it and I think he'd have controlled it anyway, so for me I'd say play on. Not a deliberate handball. Just use VAR for offsides, goal line, and to review awarded penalty kicks (to ensure its not flat wrong to give a penalty) and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted October 21, 2019 This is brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Harry said: With Mane he didnt intend to touch it and I think he'd have controlled it anyway, so for me I'd say play on. Not a deliberate handball. Sorry but that's not the rule any more. Intention is taken out of the question when it comes to attacking players touching the ball with their hand/arm in the opposition penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Harry said: With Mane he didnt intend to touch it and I think he'd have controlled it anyway, so for me I'd say play on. Not a deliberate handball. I don't think they care anymore about deciding if it's deliberate or not. Truthfully, it appears that if Mane hadn't of handled it, the ball would have gone quickly to his left, which would have destroyed his great scoring chance. The hand, while inadvertent, did help him and therefore is was a good over turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Where the handball rule is ridiculous is that wouldn't be a penalty in the other box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted October 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Where the handball rule is ridiculous is that wouldn't be a penalty in the other box. This is something that I find weird too. The attacker is given no benefit of the doubt but the defender is? I suppose they'll amend that next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,363 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted October 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Where the handball rule is ridiculous is that wouldn't be a penalty in the other box. 5 minutes ago, Mel81x said: This is something that I find weird too. The attacker is given no benefit of the doubt but the defender is? I suppose they'll amend that next season. I agree but I can see why it's like that. It prevents footballers just smashing the ball at defenders and almost aiming for their arms knowing they might not be able to get it anywhere else. Whereas you're unlikely to get attackers doing that when they're actually aiming for goal in the attacking penalty area. So it's right in that sense that defenders will get that advantage as opposed to conceding a penalty even if their arms are by their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,612 Posted October 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Stan said: It prevents footballers just smashing the ball at defenders and almost aiming for their arms knowing they might not be able to get it anywhere else. Whereas you're unlikely to get attackers doing that when they're actually aiming for goal in the attacking penalty area. So it's right in that sense that defenders will get that advantage as opposed to conceding a penalty even if their arms are by their side. I agree there is no easy way to give the attacker the benefit because lets face it they can and some have used their arms to get the ball into favorable positions. I just think that its harsh on the attacker if the ball genuinely hits the defender with no fault of their own and an attacking opportunity is missed as a result. I think VAR sorts this out rather well in the box-foul department and I am thinking they will find a way because a rule like that will certainly meet some kind of edge-case they'll have to account for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,400 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On a side note away from VAR, from a tactical perspective that was a great watch. Manchester United to Ole's credit were set up correctly, and Klopp did well at half time to switch in the centre to allow his side to create more opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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