Administrator Stan Posted November 20, 2019 Administrator Share Posted November 20, 2019 Draw to take place on Saturday 30th November, 6pm (GMT) in Romania. 20 teams have already qualified through the Euro 2020 qualifying groups (top 2 in each group). 4 other teams to be determined from play-offs in March 2020. 20 teams qualified so far: Austria Belgium Croatia Czech Republic Denmark England Finland France Germany Italy Netherlands Poland Portugal Russia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine Wales Some groups pre-determined due to being a host nation: Group A - Italy Group B - Russia, Denmark Group C - Netherlands Group D - England Group E - Spain Group F - Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Possible that a group may consist France, Portugal and Iceland in addition to a pot 1 team. This is the most interesting draw for a tournament due to the seeding/multiple host Nations/political conflicts 1 group is 3/4 complete over a week before the draw! russia host Belgium pot 1 and Denmark host not bad for Belgium. Missing France and Portugal also quite a bit of travel involved in the final tournament too. As it moves to the knockouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 20/11/2019 at 08:58, Stan said: Draw to take place on Saturday 30th November, 6pm (GMT) in Romania. 20 teams have already qualified through the Euro 2020 qualifying groups (top 2 in each group). 4 other teams to be determined from play-offs in March 2020. 20 teams qualified so far: Austria Belgium Croatia Czech Republic Denmark England Finland France Germany Italy Netherlands Poland Portugal Russia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine Wales Some groups pre-determined due to being a host nation: Group A - Italy Group B - Russia, Denmark Group C - Netherlands Group D - England Group E - Spain Group F - Germany We have Ukraine in our group, its already confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 30, 2019 Author Administrator Share Posted November 30, 2019 Germany, France and Portugal all drawn in the same group. Wow. England get Croatia, Czech Republic and a play off winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Group A : Italy, Switzerland, Turkey, Wales Group B : Russia, Denmark, Belgium, Finland Group C : Netherlands, Ukraine, Austria (Georgia, Kosovo, Belarus, North Macedonia) Group D : England, Croatia, Czech Republic (Scotland, Israel, Norway, Serbia) Group E : Spain, Poland, Sweden (N Ireland, Bosnia, Slovakia or Ireland) Group F : Germany, France, Portugal (Iceland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Portugal haven't beaten Germany in a major tournament for quite a while now but this time I'm sure they will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted November 30, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted November 30, 2019 Decent group for Austria. No chance against the Netherlands, Ukraine will be tough but manageable, and the potential fourth teams look weaker than in other groups. If Romania qualifies then they'll be the last team in Group C (due to Bukarest being one of the venues of this group). I could see Austria making it through to the knockout rounds either as second or best third-placed team. Tough group for Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Group F is clearly the Group of Death! The defending Champions Portugal are place with probably the two favorites to win the Euros, Germany and France. It's a ridiculously strong group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Austria has to play the playoff winner in Romania and then travel to Netherlands to play the host team and then travel back to Romania to play Ukraine. While Ukraine play the Dutch and then travel to Romania for their last two group games. Nice fair play scheduling UEFA!! two countries hosting a 4 team group was a dumb idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Germany getting tough draws lately. Nations league draw was the worst with Netherlands and France. The euro qualifying group drew the Dutch again. Germany were lucky to be winners of that group. And now France and Portugal and potentially Iceland. Potentially 4 league A teams in one group hardly seems even across the board. Italy had easy qualifying group and easy draw today. Guess UEFA wants to ensure to make up for Italy missing out on World Cup '18. The second placed team of group F plays winner of group d, which should be England... i didn't have expectations for Germany going deep in the tournament coming into the draw today, but now don't think they will get out of group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Would love to see Scotland win the play offs and play England in a major tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Turkey will play all their three games in Baku, Azerbaijan. It will be like playing in front of home as Azerbaijan is like a vessel state of Turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 hours ago, The Käiser said: Austria has to play the playoff winner in Romania and then travel to Netherlands to play the host team and then travel back to Romania to play Ukraine. While Ukraine play the Dutch and then travel to Romania for their last two group games. Nice fair play scheduling UEFA!! two countries hosting a 4 team group was a dumb idea. Yes, but there is a reason for that. It's because of the seeding system used. Ukraine finished top of their group during the qualifiers, while Austria only finished second in their group. All the teams who finished first in their respective qualifying groups, are supposedly rewarded in terms of where they play and how much they have to travel when it comes to the main competition. All the fixtures and venues are decided well in advance, so teams know from the start, that they will be rewarded this way if they finished first in their group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 hours ago, The Käiser said: Germany getting tough draws lately. Nations league draw was the worst with Netherlands and France. The euro qualifying group drew the Dutch again. Germany were lucky to be winners of that group. And now France and Portugal and potentially Iceland. Potentially 4 league A teams in one group hardly seems even across the board. Italy had easy qualifying group and easy draw today. Guess UEFA wants to ensure to make up for Italy missing out on World Cup '18. The second placed team of group F plays winner of group d, which should be England... i didn't have expectations for Germany going deep in the tournament coming into the draw today, but now don't think they will get out of group. I totally agree, Germany have a very tought draw, just like being drawn the Netherlands during the qualifiers. With France and Portugal in their group, it hardly gets much tougher. The Italians had a really easy group during the qualifiers and now they have a relatively easy group at the finals. Switzerland are a very good team, but I wouldn't say that they are one of the elite national teams. They will be Italy's main challenge in the group though(at least on paper). Turkey are not great to be honest, they have seen better days. While Wales have a relatively young team. They still have some exciting offensive players including Bale and other youngsters coming through. But their defensive midfield positions(Allen hasn't played as well as he used to, Morrel is a League 1 standard player and Ampadu is still a teenager lacking a lot of experience) and their defence, looks very average in my opinion. The seeding system is supposed to make things relatively fair when the draw is made, but sometimes you get an obvious unfair outcome in terms of the teams you are drawn against. Germany and Italy's groups are a classic example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Play-off path D, looks by far the weakest Play-off path. All those teams could be real whipping boys if they end up in Group F(the Group of Death!). Kosovo are probably the strongest of the teams in that path though, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The tournament will be won by a team who finishes 3rd in their group with 1 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Harvsky said: The tournament will be won by a team who finishes 3rd in their group with 1 point. Still can’t believe Portugal were crowned winners last time, finishing 3rd in your crop should not mean you go through to the KO stages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Danny said: Still can’t believe Portugal were crowned winners last time, finishing 3rd in your crop should not mean you go through to the KO stages Portugal also only won one game within 90 minutes during the whole tournament. Champions indeed. With this new system, the winner probably will come from a playoff path. It's Murphy's law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, The Käiser said: Portugal also only won one game within 90 minutes during the whole tournament. Champions indeed. With this new system, the winner probably will come from a playoff path. It's Murphy's law Even with these rules I don't think Ireland will win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Käiser Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 07:27, Michael said: Yes, but there is a reason for that. It's because of the seeding system used. Ukraine finished top of their group during the qualifiers, while Austria only finished second in their group. All the teams who finished first in their respective qualifying groups, are supposedly rewarded in terms of where they play and how much they have to travel when it comes to the main competition. All the fixtures and venues are decided well in advance, so teams know from the start, that they will be rewarded this way if they finished first in their group. Yes Ukraine won their group but still do some traveling. Netherlands who did not win their group get to play all 3 at home. The draw decided the order of matches and so some teams travel back and forth more than others interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I am still trying to work out whole qualifying let alone the groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 12:43, Michael said: I totally agree, Germany have a very tought draw, just like being drawn the Netherlands during the qualifiers. With France and Portugal in their group, it hardly gets much tougher. The Italians had a really easy group during the qualifiers and now they have a relatively easy group at the finals. Switzerland are a very good team, but I wouldn't say that they are one of the elite national teams. They will be Italy's main challenge in the group though(at least on paper). Turkey are not great to be honest, they have seen better days. While Wales have a relatively young team. They still have some exciting offensive players including Bale and other youngsters coming through. But their defensive midfield positions(Allen hasn't played as well as he used to, Morrel is a League 1 standard player and Ampadu is still a teenager lacking a lot of experience) and their defence, looks very average in my opinion. The seeding system is supposed to make things relatively fair when the draw is made, but sometimes you get an obvious unfair outcome in terms of the teams you are drawn against. Germany and Italy's groups are a classic example of that. Germany are being paid back now finally after all those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 13:23, Harvsky said: The tournament will be won by a team who finishes 3rd in their group with 1 point. Germans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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