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That's good then. Hopefully Klopp knows this so we don't wait around all window hoping for the best and actually identify a different target.

Apparently it will get done in January, by which time VVD will be nearly 28 and won't have played a competitive game in almost a year (assuming he doesn't play for Southampton till then). I say forget him, find another target and go get him in January.

He is right regarding CB options and maybe about the keepers. But here we go again! Its been discussed a million times! Klopp isn't buying a new keeper! Its as simple as 1 + 1

Here we go again

I know not signing a CB is disappointing but the strength in depth of our squad overall is now pretty impressive. We will have players such as Sturridge, Lallana, Can, TAA, Milner, Robertson, Ox & Coutinho on the bench on a regular basis.

Yep, back to the 'you score 3 we'll score 4' I suppose

£6m fee with the option to recall. Not bad business

It's a shame about his attitude because we could really do with him this season, especially with our negligence in not buying another CB.

Maybe Conte and Klopp rate him and can get more out of him than an inept Wenger?

Fuckin'ell you don't want much in 10 hours

Ox doesn't get in our first 11 either and he certainly doesn't when Keita arrives. He's a big Liverpool fan though so I'm sure that has something to do with his preference. Anyway, hearing it's almost done for around £30m.

Spot on as usual.

He'd probably only score about 5 in your team and still be your best striker

I think that's the reason he won't sign a new deal to be honest. He looks at our options in midfield (only really gets in because Coutinho & Lallana are out) with Keita also coming and wonders how he gets regular games. He's too good to be a bench warmer.

I get that but the debate I was having was against some on here claiming Can simply wasn't good enough, even as a squad player. I mean, it was utterly ridiculous. Anyway, looks like he'll be going Juve for free next summer which is definitely our loss and their gain.

You could always see the potential though, just needed to add consistency, like all young players do. He was also carrying an injury last season that obviously didn't help. You don't become a German International aged 20 if you're crap.

I had a long standing debate on here with a few that wanted Can gone. I didn't get it at the time and I don't now. He's quality and will only get better.

Good signing in my opinion.

I think you lot missed a trick when Klopp became available to be honest.

Arsenal don't spend enough for a manager like Pep.

Nobody has accepted it Mike, that's the point. I think probably around 95% of our fan base have at some time or other said that we need to or should be upgrading. My point is, and has been all along, is that Klopp rates him and doesn't seem in any hurry to dip into the transfer market to replace him, hence absolutely no links to a new keeper whatsoever. He's tried it once and Karius is sat on his arse. Ive personally never 'accepted' having Migs because I think he's the best goalie ever. I've accepted him because he isn't going anywhere anytime soon and I fail to see the point in bringing it up time and time again. It's boring, it's tedious and it needs to pushed to the back burner untill a time when Klopp see's fit to get rid. Migs has much improved though since Karius came on to challenge so let's all hope that his improvement continues because he's not a bad goalkeeper, he's just been way too inconsistent over the years. Support the lad.... COME OOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN

Awww don't, I miss Pepe urgghhh

Oh hi Mike

When we were shopping in Germany we should have gone for either Timo Horn or Ralf Fahrmann instead of opting for Karius.

Well this is what this thread is for mate, to express your opinions on him and maybe monitor his performances and progress. Much better than spreading it around the forum day in day out.