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25 minutes ago, Spike said:

So when Hamas bombed that music festival it was different?

Don't think they claimed it as "human shields" so from that point of view yes. That was more a case of them conveniently finding an opening and then going mental. Like a slave rebellion.

3 minutes ago, Spike said:

I don’t understand this ’human shield’ concept. 

A concept thought up by Israel & US to excuse themselves from not caring/actively targeting civilians. "Collateral damage" but more gas lighty.

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I like how I’m now suddenly super pro-Israel in this headcase’s eyes because I don’t think Iranians should die for his cause lol

You had less issue with Israel killing Iranians than you do with Iran responding to Israel. But I'm the headcase? Always against the parties responding to Israel more than you are against Israel causing the issues. Israel should continue killing people unchecked? Okay bibi boy. Of course you're not the headcase.

I know Zionists don't like Israel's hypocrisy exposed but I hope the two in here don't take this too personally.

Everything Israel accused Hamas of always seems to end up applying to Israel.

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

https://apnews.com/article/33fcffde2d867380e98c89403776a8ac
 

well looks like our resident warmonger will be pleased

You genuinely are rattled. You just can't stop being dishonest.

45 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

This literally got started over you getting upset about being called out for the most likely reason for why you want more instability in the least stable part of the world…

I've said I want Israel to be punished for their treatment of Palestinians over decades. They're a major reason as to why there's instability in the region as well. How many countries are they bombing again?

You, like every Zionist, decided to dishonestly go with "you obviously hate Jews". I've heard of a lot of the Iranian diaspora bending over for Israel but I didn't think you were one especially at that embarrassing level but I guess you are.

14 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You’re the one who’s rattled and emotional

You being the only one getting angry and throwing around insults like you're a kid new to discourse on the internet says otherwise. Immature and sad stuff IDF bum buddy.

He doesn't seem to have a clue on how to set up his team.

I'm gonna predict that Tuchel's gonna become the Man Utd manager.

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Lol you might be the dumbest cunt on the forum

You really have a difficult time avoiding getting rattled and emotional when in this thread.

1 hour ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Please be so kind and explain how extending a war and producing an ever bigger bloodbath in the process can be seen as positive? Genuine curious?

Stopping Israel is a positive. All these nations need to feel like there are consequences. At the moment Israel feels it has none and behaves the way it does and has done for a long, long time. That needs to change. If Israel didn't have immunity from sanctions and ridicule from Western nations then there could've been another way but unfortunately Western nations hold Israel up instead.

If just the threat of an attack from Iran can get other nations to behave in a less genocidal manner then obviously that'd be better but Israel's belief they have the God given right to kill Palestinians makes that unlikely.

2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I’ve called the IDF war criminals, you’re hoping a bunch of people that use Palestinians as pawns just do something to kill Jews and start another long Middle Eastern war because you’re so deep into their propaganda 

Where did that come from? You're a bit too deep into your hate for Iran that it seems to have made you lose all perspective and it makes you say wild things that don't apply to make others seem extreme.

Israel attacked Iran and more importantly for me, they've been scum for decades for the way they've Palestinians so Iran attacking Israel and providing some consequences would be positive. Notice I said Israel and not Jews and have always done so? No need to make things up like most pro-Zionists. This idea Israel wouldn't be the ones that started another war is also very consistent with how Israel's actions get ignored. They're just randomly being picked on...

And I know you've said the IDF are war criminals but I thought I'd ignore that and make up my own narrative. Give you a taste of your own medicine. Thought I'd be a liar like you.

Can't wait to hear about how great van Der Ven is. The boy is rarely in position.

39 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Ah there it is, the moment you twerk for Khamenei.

I just said they're a bunch of cunts... You have comprehension issues. You seem to have issues against everyone that might do something against the IDF because you're the one continually twerking for Israel and giving a "they're not that bad" vibe.

Israeli settler mobs continuing to attack Palestinians in the West Bank. Extremely frustrating that this is just supposed to be considered normal.

Iran's government are a bunch of cunts but maybe they can take a break from killing their own citizens and do something good like take out a lot of IDF terrorists and some settlers.

Newcastle 2-1 Tottenham, 12.30
Brentford 2-0 Sheff Utd
Burnley 2-3 Brighton
Man City 5-0 Luton
Nottm Forest 1-1 Wolves
Bournemouth 1-2 Man Utd, 17.30

Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace, 14.00
West Ham 2-2 Fulham, 14.00
Arsenal 2-1 Aston Villa, 16.30

Chelsea 1-1 Everton, 20.00

Bayern 3-1 Köln

Leipzig 2-0 Wolfsburg

Mainz 2-1 Hoffenheim

Gladbach 1-2 Dortmund

Bochum 1-1 Heidenheim

Stuttgart 3-1 Frankfurt

Darmstadt 0-1 Freiburg

Leverkusen 2-0 Bremen

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39 minutes ago, Redcanuck said:

Looks like Liverpool underestimated Atalanta based on the first stringers who didn't start.

Seems like they made the decision that getting through isn't as important as being fresh for the league.

Still wouldn't have expected Liverpool to be so shit, but Klopp probably feels they have bigger fish to fry.

If the goal was to humiliate Jack Perry, then I think Tony succeeded.

Maybe it got a ratings boost but it made AEW look bad in my opinion. Can see the AEW locker Room face palming while the WWE locker room laugh.

"Rumours" of Iran possibly responded to Israel's attack on them and obviously that bought puppet Biden is repeating his unwavering support for Israel. No "Iran have the right to defend themselves and kill whoever and how many they want" this time it seems...

The US would love Iran involved though. Use Ukraine as a proxy against Russia and use Israel as a proxy against Iran. Dream scenario for them.

19 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said:

disrupting their ability to brainwash people and route them out then kill them with their ideology, this is the outcome that preserves maximum number of civilians live.

You'd be correct if you were talking about the IDF and the Israeli government. Unfortunately you're the one that's brainwashed into embracing a genocide because of the psychos that brought you up.

Bayern will be happier with the result. This game is basically irrelevant going into the 2nd leg at the Allianz Arena.

2 stupid goals to give away, one of which was Kane's customary penalty against us. As for both the penalty incidents, both could've been given, neither were, evened itself out as far as that's concerned in my opinion.

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Liverpool lucky with the draw. It was definitely a dive.

Only 1 point between the top 3 now. Man City's run in looks simple. Can't see where they'd drop points. Bit more difficult for Liverpool but we definitely have more difficult fixtures.

Was worried about the game but it was comfortable overall.

Been brilliant in 2024. Best team offensively, by far the best team defensively, but those games before the new year still haunts us. Should be running away with the league to be honest.

Crystal Palace 1-1 Man City, 12.30 
Aston Villa 3-2 Brentford
Everton 2-1 Burnley
Fulham 1-1 Newcastle
Luton 2-2 Bournemouth
Wolves 1-1 West Ham
Brighton 2-3 Arsenal, 17.30

Man Utd 2-1 Liverpool, 15.30
Sheff Utd 0-3 Chelsea, 17.30
Tottenham 3-1 Nottm Forest, 18.00