Danny

31 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

It's mad that you went on that improbable run where those kids were playing quite regularly and they did enough to win the League Cup and keep you in Europe and the title race and then when you've got a bunch of your senior players back from injury they've fucked it all in the blink of an eye.

I do think there's an element of some squad players like Elliot, Jones and Tsimikas who have played above their level for a lot of the season and just haven't been able to keep it up all the way.

Nunez and Diaz have put some good numbers up but I think Liverpool should listen to offers for either really because I don't see either of them having the ability to step up as the "main man" when Salah is out of form like he has been recently, or when he leaves. Jota is a bit better but none of them are as good as Mane or peak Firmino. All players who can complete a front three combo if you've already got 1 or 2 world class players alongside them to raise them up but not world class in their own right.

I think Jones is a bit unfair, he got injured against us when they beat us 4-1 and I think has only made 2 starts since being this game and Atalanta. Elliot and Tsimiskas though...spot on.

Liverpool aren't out of the title race yet, but it is a massive loss.

Perspective is funny because Klopp and co didn't really expect to be in a title race this season and in fact I think everyone thought City would run away with it. Despite the poor run of form to have won the League Cup and still be within 1-3 points of the title at this point isn't bad going, all things considered.

2 minutes ago, Stan said:

Speculative but you do wonder that if it was the other way round would it have bee overturned... 

Honestly I just think it's just being terrible at their job rather than a bias, wouldn't surprise me if they gave it to either team

Lovely little VAR moment yesterday. 1.25 into the video, honestly do not see a foul at all, just a dive from McBurnie, denies Damsgaard of a lovely volley 

14 hours ago, Stan said:

That penalty Man Utd got is disgusting. 

How a VAR official doesn't see that Smith has his arm tucked into his body, and the fact it ricochet off another player is obscene. 

One of the worst calls of the season, just basic common sense needs to be applied.

52 minutes ago, Stan said:

Tuchel and Man Utd just seems like the next chapter of disaster for the club. If you're a Utd supporter you'd like to think Ratcliffe knows better than to hire someone as polarising as Tuchel. You need someone to galvanise that team, not alienate them even further. 

There's no way they'll bring in Tuchel, surely....

There’s a lot wrong behind the scenes and there’s players who clearly don’t want to fight for the club. But I do question why we haven’t seen spells of good football at least. Eddie Howe done it with a leaser team, Iraola with Bournemouth, Frank with Brentford, de Zerbi at Brighton…smaller budgets, players who arent as good, yet they can get their teams to put in great performances even if theyre not always consistent.

For me that has to go against him, he’s just given up on the team.

2 hours ago, Spike said:

All the fucked and cooked cunts thinks this is a good time to fucken sook about gun control and how mass murders still happen. 

You’d think the evidence that this is a rarity rather than regular occurrence would be enough

A weird game today, two teams in the first half who couldnt get out of first gear. But glad we got the win in the end. Great to see Schade back, he really is good and immediately assists Onyeka who grabs his first goal for us. If we can just roll into these last games now with these players back then the focus can be on just playing free flowing football again rather than just trying to survive. Looking forward to seeing Schade, Toney and Mbeumo up top. Should have seen it a lot more this season and it would have shot us up the table a lot.

Boring game so far, neither side creating anything of note. Final ball not there

Sickening to attack anyone like that but to go for a child, fucking hell.

Bondi Junction is such a massive hub too, imagine security will go through the roof from the Junction to the CBD now.

Just now, Cicero said:

I suppose that’s an adequate excuse when you so confidentially predicted it was Chelsea that made him shit. 

Oh you did, because he was good enough at Leipzig until you signed him. Some players will just take a bit longer to get back to their best after taking a hit to their confidence like that. Some players turn it around a bit quicker, like Havertz for example, another player you destroyed and Mikel Arteta has now got him back to his best. Or Christian Pulisic, another player who struggled at Chelsea and has now gone onto to have a career best season at AC Milan. Chelsea fans spent ages slagging of Jorginho too who has gone onto become pretty integral to an Arsenal team that are chasing the title. Morata another one Chelsea fans jumped on as shit and has managed to score 20 goals in a season for Real Madrid, Juve and Atletico. to It's a consistent theme with Chelsea through the years, whether it's the player you've destroyed recently, the players you are currently destroying (Caicedo for example), or the players you destroyed before that like Lukaku, Salah or KdB.

Players aren't completely blameless obviously, but there is a very strong common denominator there. So yeah, Chelsea do ruin players.

I think Werner gets a harsh time and is better than most people give him credit for, but when hes bad hes bad

I have seen a lot of bad defending for Brentford this season, but this is some of the worst of anyone all season from Van de Ven

22 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said:

You can now kick someone in the chest/shoulder in the box without consequences. These referees on VAR are appalling.

Was it in the box? Defo a foul but thought they couldnt call it back as a free kick

Vicario’s kicking has been putting Spurs under pressure. Done it for the second goal, nearly conceded a 3rd there

Jesus. Spurs are so fragile defensively when they get put under pressure. What was Porro doing there, what is Van de Ven doing getting sent to the shops so easily. Udogie for the first goal, geezer is a liability defensively.

Spurs as a whole are just too predictable going forward, relying on a moment of brilliance in 1v1s, otherwise just pack the middle and they struggle to break teams down.

7 minutes ago, Cicero said:

You mean Burn?

No Maddison for the clear block

How has Maddison not been given a yellow there?

Coco the clown has come out to play for Spurs today. Just to think if they’d have decided to spend an extra £10m they would have had a free run at the much superior David Raya.

Kevin Schade and Ethan Pinnock to be on the bench tomorrow, massive for us. Toney to start again, Norgaard also getting fit again but not sure if he'll make this week. A potential even for Aaron Hickey to make another appearance this season but who knows there.

Florian Plettenberg has recently suggested that we are open to bids of around £40m for Toney and today Frank has come out and called it cheap, can't say I expected anything less really. The David Raya price tag was around £30m with one year left on his deal, Toney will go for double at least.

7 minutes ago, Stan said:

You wonder if some big players may leave? Van Dijk, Salah, Alexander-Arnold perhaps? Maybe not all 3, but with Klopp going, anything could happen. 

I'd be surprised if they let 2/3 of them go...but one could definitely. You'd think Trent would want to stick around to see if he can help push on for silverware, and tbh I'm not sure anyone can actually afford him at this point. Van Dijk and Salah...I feel like Van Dijk would see another season and then probably leave...who knows with Salah

1 minute ago, CaaC (John) said:

I presume you mean R V Persie, he was a great player and when Fergie announced he was retiring Persie was gutted as he only joined United because he admired SAF as a manager.

RVP would have still been there after but a certain LV Gaal fucked him up from playing in the first team for some reason and Persie then left United.

Yeah I meant van Persie.

I think there's been a lot of comparison of Klopp leaving Liverpool to United/Ferguson and Arsenal/Wenger but ultimately I don't think the scenarios are the same at all. Ferguson had a team that was beginning to age out and then had to deal with David Moyes who just wasn't equipped to manage players of that caliber. Wenger had already began to drive Arsenal out of the top 4 with a 5th and 6th place finish following a season where they couldn't keep up with Leicester.

This Liverpool team are in a title race whilst still being under construction, a lot of youth, players just settling in and still couple of key positions to fill in up front and in midfield. I don't think a new manager will have to do a lot to get the best out of them and they could get even better with a couple of bigger signings in the Summer.

11 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Knee jerk reaction - but if we're looking at people that have a decent track record but not much to show in the way of winning things in a big league... Gasperini from Atalanta's got a history of doing well on a budget and he's clearly very good tactically.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction, Gasperini doesn't really get the credit he deserves outside of Italy, three 3rd place finishes in a row, two times runner up in the Coppa Italia. Doesn't really have the budget to compete with the likes of Juve, Inter, Roma, Milan etc but he still manages to in terms of top 4.

Initially when I made my post about potential replacements I did think about putting him in, but the list of maybe's generally included people who had won something. It would be a left field appointment but not necessarily a bad one.

Only thing I would say and this is why I didn't suggest him is previously Klopp was a very obvious appointment. It didn't take a lot of looking at underlying statistics to realise that appointing the man who broke Bayern's dominance with a low budget and great attacking football was going to be the best decision for Liverpool. I think the club will look for something or someone similar and Gasperini probably won't make it that far. But it wouldn't surprise me if they'd already had a good look at him

3 hours ago, CaaC (John) said:

When Fergie announced he was retiring at the end of season 2013 the players upped a gear and made sure he retired with a league title, it looks like, to me, the pool players have gone into the "Oh shit" mode and could not give a toss.  

I hope I am wrong as our son is a Liverpool supporter and I hope they win the league title for him.

I think it also helped that United began the season by signing the Golden Boot winner from the previous season after losing out on a title due to goal difference.

Liverpool didn't expect to be competing for the title this season, the signings they made suggested they were building rather than the finished product. I think they've just probably overachieved a bit and don't have the squad to fight on multiple fronts like they've had in previous years.