Azeem

Whole thing seems to have blown out of proportion. The kid was stupid to assault the officer, in US and most of the world he probably would've been shot dead for doing that.

And yes the officer should be given some suspension fine for kicking in the head.

9 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Now, since the extension, you can add golf to that enumeration. Also not convinced cycling rates the olympics over Tour de France or Giro d'Italia.

*one of their prime. Agreed on golf but not on cycling since they have different modules some of them highly valued. 

Sad for the fans

Yes, a 9-10 year gap is basically like starting over

Sports that don't treat Olympics as one of their prime competitions shouldn't be in it that means football, tennis

FIFA is not alone in this expanding their tournaments.

1 hour ago, Spike said:

It is ludicrous they even entertain banning this shot. Batsmen step up their game to changing conditions, maybe bowlers should too? 

Fielding is set according to the batsman being left or right handed. Once it is set the fielders can't change their position until the bowl is bowled. If the batsman is going to switch just before the delivery is bowled than allow the fielders to do the same.

Then there is also the lbw rule of pitching outside leg being not out. Batsmen can switch side, get struck in the pad but not out even though he changed sides which totally flips what was his leg side. 

https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket/ian-chappell-urges-icc-to-intervene-after-glenn-maxwell-david-warners-unfair-shots-against-india/

I don't think the switch hit should be banned but it again shows the bias against bowlers cricket has always had as a sport.

As opposed to batting where new shots and innovations are encouraged and celebrated, innovations in bowling or anything that gives advantage to bowlers is met with suspicion, scrutinized and eventually banned in many cases.

when the slingy action like Malinga first came on the scene in 70s it was banned but later cleared, doosra was deemed impossible to bowl without chucking and everything was done to ban it, mankading, limiting bouncers and one could argue ball tampering in this case too, pacers should be allowed to do it legally. 

ICJ has given its verdict that acknowledges pretty much everything about Israel that any person with a conscious already knows. 

Daily reminder: the issue of Palestine and Levant was also one of the reasons why League of Nations failed. According to League of Nations, in any Mandatory power arrangement the wishes of those being ruled by that Mandatory power must be of priority and upheld.

For this a commission was created to find and assert the wishes of the people of Levant who were to be ruled by British and French mandates.

This commission is called the King-Crane commission, headed by two American diplomats, it conducted surveys and interviews in the Levant from all communities. The commission gave the final report that a unified Arab state be created and ruled out the creation of a Jewish state, this commission also advocated for an Armenian state to be created. 

But Britain and France gave two fucks about this commission and divided the ME between them. This violation of international law was one of the first events why League of Nations never really took off.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King–Crane_Commission

Now we will again see flagrant violations of international institutions  which will most probably lead to same events that happened after League of Nations went kaput. 

1 minute ago, Spike said:

USA v Russia did that long before.

But were they lobbying to include sports that they were good at like countries are doing recently ?

Olympics are wank. Countries like US China have made it into a dick measuring contest between them inserting sports that increase their chance of winning medals i.e skateboarding ffs and India is also pushing for cricket to be included in it. 

Also becoming a burden to host these things. Only two cities Paris and Los Angeles applied for 2024, IOC for first time announced two hosts at once awarded 24 to Paris and LA 2028 fearing no one might apply for the next one. 

That said some sports are interesting to watch and only get prime time attention during Olympics like El Professor mentioned volleyball, hockey 

Yes. You have cricket football players saying themselves that even until 2000s you could get a few breaks in between but now you have to play constantly. 

The best XI should really be only of players that reached the quarterfinals at least

Olmo. Yamal had some great chances in the final but he put them straight into Pickford's hands.

15 hours ago, MUFC said:

Argentinians are the Italians of South America.

This is actually a good comeback for the French players. They could just say they are Spanish speaking Italians lol

13 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Something not mentioned, yet: I beg you to be specific here: How is having done a fault in the past a sensible reasoning for continuing committing this fault? At recognising Talinan regime because of recognizing Israel.

One can undo that fault by unrecognizing Israel acknowledging it was wrong, like countries have taken back their recognition in many cases.

But if one is not going to do that then it at least keep it consistent and recognize others too if they are more or less the same case as Israel.

Why is China not really 'that' hated globally as much as say US ? one reason is China is 'amoral' in its conduct. They just don't care, they recognize Israel and don't give two fs what Muslim countries think and also recognize Taliban and don't care what West thinks, they just care business. That is more appreciateable than hypocrisy for many which is 'immoral'.

1 minute ago, Spike said:

 

https://www.rmpbs.org/blogs/news/denver-man-idf-medic

Also don’t know about that chick because I’ve never heard of her but Timothy Weekes was always supporting the Taliban. That reads like some domestic abuse relationship.

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101331834

The only thing we prove here is that people can and will support anything, and support of something isn’t indicative of its righteousness. Because if that were the case it wouldn’t exist all in the first place…

Never talked about righteousness Taliban are fanatics no doubt, but question on comparing Israel and Taliban that it is ridiculous to compare Israel to them because Taliban are obviously more bad no ? Both have their set of supporters specially Taliban which many people in the West may be surprised to know doesn't change their reality

Brazil because of their pedigree

Netherlands because of their kit

Portugal because first international tournament I clearly remember is Euro 2004

Algeria because I respect their independence struggle

Japan because of their disciplined fans at WC

Senegal because of Mane and generally they are a decent team that play with intent

Scotland because I like the Scottish Highlands

6 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Can only speak for my nation: We recognized Israel, since the politics in the years 1933-1945, specially the deeds from "Nürnberger Rassegesetze" in 1935 on, led to an historic obligation to support the wish of Jews for creation of conditions such attrocities might never happen again. Be sure many Israeli would have been offended for it, if you suggested Germany were their friends, those then, some might be still, understandably. This kind of historic responsibility doesn't exist towards Afghans from a German point of view.

I've been seeing you make this point time to time that Germany has this responsibility towards Israel due to historical reasons i.e Holocaust.

Genuine question if that is the 'only' reason of supporting Israel why doesn't the same support is given to Namibia by Germany where Germany also committed a genocide  which is the first of its kind in the 20th century ? Germany only recognized it as a genocide in 2021 which begs to ask why that long ? and still hasn't agreed on any mechanism for compensating those communities which it has done in the case of Israel

or there are other reasons involved as well ?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/03/13/namibia-calls-for-reparations-talks-with-germany/

11 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Nothing to do with an anti-Muslim agenda. There's absolutely no reason to recognize an undesired government that violates the human rights just because you already have recognized another one. Actually they should be thankful, since we help them to follow their religious beliefs, specifically Qran surah 5:51.

If you look at that verse it says don't take Jews and Christians as your allies because they are allies of each other. That doesn't make sense if you look at history, different Christians empires have historically persecuted Jews for 1000s of years as mentioned before in this thread. So it seems factually incorrect, it's like saying don't take US-Russia as friends as they are friends of each other. 

But the other part of your post suggests it may not be completely wrong. Why has West recognized one human right abuser state but not the other ? is it bcz one is their friend and other is not ? 

1 minute ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

Nothing to do with an anti-Muslim agenda. There's absolutely no reason to recognize an undesired government that violates the human rights just because you already have recognized another one.

You mentioned Saudi Arabia too. Explain to me how Israel is not comparable to Saudi ? 

13 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is stoning someone more unjust than an indiscriminate bombing campaign or the collective punishment of a people due to threats of terrorism? I say this as someone who has absolutely 0 love for the Taliban: I'm not sure their human rights violations come anywhere near Israel's. The Taliban will kill you for things like: you're the wrong flavour of Muslim and too Shia to be allowed to live or because you're the wrong type of ethnicity that's historically been living on that land for 1000s of years - but never in quite the same scope and scale of how Israel's gone about fighting their wars.

Capitol punishment by stoning is objectively a terrible thing. Bombing refugee camps and hospitals, imo, is also objectively terrible... and honestly, I think it's much worse. Beheading someone for being Shia, Persian/Tajik, like the Taliban do, is backwards and obviously wrong. So is collective punishment of a population due to the actions of a terror group hiding within them. And again, the scope and scale of the human rights abuses, when you compare them, are so much more deadly.

Moreover, there have been some cases of journalists or other folks including Westerners being taken captive by Taliban, but surprisingly they became quite pro-Taliban afterwards seeing some of the actual ground realities where Taliban were justified in their fight against foreign powers according to them, which the original post perfectly explains they have a far more legitimate claim to govern their lands than Israel even though both have taken through force.

This Australian man is recently one of them, Yvonne Ridley was another prominent women who was taken captive by them but has not been that critical of them ever since even supporting them on some cases. Then you have some US marines who also had similar views after being deployed there. 

Why ? are they all propagandist or psychos ? if it happened once ok but there have been multiple cases ?  or is it that Taliban while no doubt fanatics of their own are not that cartoonishly evil that Rucksack thinks is ridiculous to compare them to Israel that seems no less of a fanatic than them. 

On the contrary, many people who actually go see how Israel operates turn out to be virulently anti-Israel after seeing first hand what inhumane shit they do. Including this son of an IDF General who openly calls for ending Israel

and Illan Pappe, Israeli historian, who got his hands over Israeli archives and wrote the most detailed book on Israeli atrocities in Nakba and he too calls for Israel to end

18 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said:

When was the last time Israel executed the capitol punishment by stoning, again? With all due respect to your opponence towards Israel and its zionism as well as your being Muslim: Comparing Israel with the Taliban, or Saudi-Arabia, while we're at it is ridiculous.

Speechless. Israel literally does insane inhumane shit which Dr. Gonzo has pointed out on a much bigger scale.

Your post again confirms the original post about the double standards of the West and shows the deep rooted belief in the Western mind (long before 9/11) including common folks like you that the epitome of a cartoonish evil has to be a Muslim i.e Trump shooting is a case of 'political violence' but if a Muslim did it, it would've been 'terrorism'. 

When are Western countries planning to formally recognize and establish relations with the Taliban ? apart from the succinct point made in the above post, countries already have either formally estb relations with them like China who is digging minerals out of there or are dealing with them indirectly through 'special representatives'. US is also channeling them millions of $$$ per week as per their agreement.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/afghanistan-taliban-tax-dollars-after-withdrawal/

UAE's president (pro-US ally) recently even invited one of the top wanted Taliban leaders and had a soiree with his team

With all of this going on in the background then why countries are keeping this pretense ? just formally accept them. As Dr. Gonzo said, Israel has happened despite whatever one thinks of its creation 'undoing' it seems quite hard, then so are the Taliban they are here to stay and as the the original post said they have a more legitimate claim to govern then Israel. Or should another 20 years war be initiated to undo them ? 

Ah muh but they are tALiBan look what they are doing to women. Look what Israel is doing to women, children and pretty much anyone who's not a Zionist, has been doing since its creation.