The Liquidator

On 01/02/2023 at 23:51, Redcanuck said:

Nice to see you back.

Till the competitons end.

Hope you n family are well

Well, we have had quieter windows.

I feel Todd's words yesterday, poo-pood by Klopp, will sound like sweet music to all owners of EPL Clubs. How old is the Premier league, 30? I don't think we have had so many ideas in how to raise revenue put out there since the clubs back slapped each other holding out for Sky to cough up for that very first TV contract.

What do they need to pass something new, 14 clubs? I would have thought 12-15 would be in favor straight away as, say for a all star game, if going by Baseball, those low clubs will be expected to only offer one player each. Money for old rope. I remember relegation play-off's in the past, grounds full, home n away. Don't see why it can't be brought back.

If the little clubs don't want the big clubs to start a Euro league, they need to anti up more revenue and relegation play-offs is an easy sell to an audience.
I am sure Todd will get some stick, but for me its about time someone ruffled a few feathers n woke up a stagnant EPL.

Well who would have thought it? The Yanks have a touch of the Russian Roulette about them. While I knew he needed to be moved on, I never for one minute felt the new lot would have it in them to one, Sack him so early after the cash spending and two, see what I could see with him being a charlatan who upset more players than Jose and for being a so called tactical genius, who brought some of the very worst football a Chelsea team has produced in decades.

Those Chelsea fans who have found shock & disappointment with the last few days tend to have their hearts n minds clouded by what TT did in the media room during the tough times we endured when our government removed our owner as a nothing weapon against Russia. While he became a media darling and painted himself as a wonderful human. Sitting in the stands watching his teams cough n splutter has left me no doubt this is the correct decision. You all sat there with me, if you think anything else of his football you are blinded by how he made you feel with his words.  Some would have you believe of the Seven forwards at the club at the end of the season, Five asked to leave, spouting the manager as the reason why. Its obvious he told Lukaku one thing and did the opposite.

So much more I could write, but after 7,000+ posts in this thread since the sacking there is no need to do a autopsy.

Maybe we have an answer now why we bought 32? There does seem to be plenty of evidence the new man has been penciled in for a while. Many of you have picked up on this before me in the thread and we all know some of you have proven contacts. SpaldingSam post on Billy Gilmore is excellent and a real eye opener.  PatrickStephansX point on the Arsenal USA fiasco after the game has to be one of the posts of the thread. I remember Matt Law talking on a Podcast hinting of Patricks very point and I understand he touched on it again these past few days on that American Podcast. Maybe that truth will come out over the coming days.

Potter is the new man and I will offer my thoughts on him in his thread.

I can't help feeling Potter is an appointment by owners who accept they are not experts but are happy to take the recommendations of people they believe are experts. That for me then brings into question who they believe are experts?

Like many Chelsea fans since Potters appointment I have been researching as much as I can trying to get a feel for the bloke. Of course most are talking him up for the job he done at Brighton, but for me what stands out from his time at Brighton is he had exactly the same problem as TT with lack of goals for a long time.

Other raised eyebrow findings, he is a coach of many formations and tends to play players in different positions from week to week. That maybe lack of personnel, but we have had enough of that ourselves. I flagged up TT doing that far too often.

Its a brave appointment, one a top club would only make with novice football owners. Potter has to convince his veteran squad members early or he will struggle. As far as us fans, we need to be told clearly what his remit is. I can handle a re-build, but I want to be told that's his remit.

Saw it coming a mile away ~ Fancy paying out for that banner
 

Missing Roman N E 1?  

So much could be said about the weekends game. Yes we got away with one, but for me when the manager fucks up before the game again, you have to wonder would losing been better for the club? He has dug himself onto a hole over the two left backs. He insisted we got Pep's left back and now finds himself needing to bench him for lasts season fit again wing back. A decision will need to be made on the goalie. Been obvious to me for ages, only now people are catching on. 24 signs a long term contract, but yet again his short temper should have seen sent off. He needs education on keeping calm and letting his football be his weapon of choice. Lastly the manager is being set up by the media who love to stick a microphone under his snout while he bumbles on with pathetic excuses. He was almost crestfallen when told the difference 21 made to the game and the bullshit he spoke of 21 not being ready yet should be translated into, but I have to pick the guy I paid 60Million.

Playing as poorly as we have this season, its quite amazing how many points we have gained. What happens is we play well is a question I would like to see answered.

Most impressed with 33, looks very much at home at our level. 10 did very little again, 23 tried hard and I wonder if he would be better with a free roll between the two lines.

13 minutes ago, Stan said:

VAR made a decision. You're unhappy with it. You lost the game. 

When you're adult enough to admit that, then maybe you will be worthy of entertaining a conversation about it. Until then, carry on reminiscing about what could have happened  

Haha, you need to work on your put downs Stan... Using one that's just been used against you, to better effect, shows your juvenile.

No matter, I'm done with you.

I think the rumours are 100% true. As much as the manager states we are a club in transition, I believe he has lost many players minds who, as he states, are looking too much at their phones hoping their Agent can get them away from the club (It's actually him). This morning the word is 10 & 22 gave word to the club at the start of this window they no longer wish to be around as they want regular first team football. Read between the lines on that gives you the truth.

I didn't like his line up last night. His substitutions were all wrong (as usual) and why we have decided against a 5 is beyond me.

Still, all questions will be answered through the season. Aren't we all looking forward to those.

15 hours ago, LFCMadLad said:

Jealous of what? Having a far better recruitment process than Chelsea?

Oh yeah, I'm gutted 

Well me ol Hector, you are always in here crying the bitch over something Chelsea are alleged to have done. I would have thought your own club has given you enough to rub your cock about of late after 30 years without. Yet, here you are again in our thread with this windows bitch about FFP.  Where my Harry Enfield GIF?  Loads N Loads of MONEY.

15 hours ago, Stan said:

No worries. I'll clarify, rephrase if you will.

It's a fact that we won it because Tielemans scored a worldie and you didn't score more than us  

Of course you fail to mention what this is about and caused you to "think" n throw your toys out of your pram. Even your clubs number one cheerleader admitted straight after that game your club got away with one.

When your adult enough to admit that, then maybe you will be worthy of reading. Till then, Carry on Thinking

23 hours ago, LFCMadLad said:

Not been funny mate but Chelsea's shit recruitment policy doesn't deflect from the fact that they outspend almost everyone.. every single summer. 

FFP is a joke as far as Chelsea is concerned. 

Your a jealous old Hector

On 29/08/2022 at 16:34, Stan said:

I think we won it because Tielemans scored a worldie and you didn't score more than us.

I can't help what you think

23 hours ago, LFCMadLad said:

Not been funny mate but Chelsea's shit recruitment policy doesn't deflect from the fact that they outspend almost everyone.. every single summer. 

FFP is a joke as far as Chelsea is concerned. 

Strange fixture which made one feel after the game the mad coach should be banished to the stands for all matches as his players showed some true grit to lead and hold onto a lead with just the Ten players without any histrionics on the touchline.

So much to be said, from a goal keeper who I am losing more confidence in after each fixture, to madcap Leicester fans crying the bitch on the radio after the game.

16 for me is a liability who is costing us more on more and its time to try the other bloke again to see if he can hold his career together. I guess we will see the managers answer if 1 disappears on loan. 16 at fault for their goal, beaten at his near post and for me his decision making is for shit. I believe he is a fine shot stopper, that's about it.

Obviously 23 getting a Red so early in the game completely changed what we were about to see. Like every other Blue heart I felt for him as he trudged off the pitch. You can see how much he wants to represent us and while the manager told the truth after the game, I fucking hope he was more positive in 23's ear when he spoke to him. With Palace gagging to have him back I hope he gets the chance to stay so our last memory isn't him leaving the pitch before half time.

With 16 & 23 covered the rest of the players sure ernt their pay cheques and 3 points. I sat in the stand growing more n more confident we would win (with eleven players it looked a sure thing). For the most part because of our players, but Leicester fueling my confidence as they struggled to look anything like past Leicester teams I have seen in the past. While Vardy beat the high line a number of times he obviously has returned to his Fleetwood shooting boots as a Shovel n Cows ass sprung to mind each time he missed. Barnes is a player, and should get out of there first chance he gets.

I want to mention 29 who is getting plenty of stick for lack of goals. His performance at the weekend was whole hearted leading the line as well as any of the real CF we have had in the past which gave space to 17 he might otherwise not found. He worked his socks off and while he didn't get on the scoresheet, he was one of the major reasons we got a positive result. I firmly believe there is a great player in him who knowing our luck, will come to fruition somewhere else.

Talking of 17.. Wow hell of a signing.

Listening to the radio after the game Leicester fans crying the bitch over the decision to award a foul on 16 by Barnes. You won a fucking FA Cup on a bent off side against us so they owe us at least another nine 50/50 calls till u should get one.

The 15 we have got for Emerson is exactly 15 more than anyone thought we would get. The worst defender at the club (Average going forward) and a very unlike Moyes signing. With Sky SN knocking the bollocks out of Aubameyang's Arsenal goal against us at the new highbury over n over these past couple of days highlighting Emerson defending, I am very surprised this West ham deal looks to be coming to fruition.

Talking of Aubameyang. Said to be a done deal? We shall see. CHO's people pushing for a move not a loan, stating they do not believe the manager plans for there player.

I wonder how many will leave before the window closes?

1 hour ago, Stan said:

Cucurella has played at LWB? 

Shhhhh! Leave him alone Stan. He is happy in his own little world.

36 minutes ago, Redcanuck said:

No I am not confident at all about tonight's game.  Luckily I have to work. I am not as pessimistic as I was after the Brentford debacle,  but its a hard to see a positive result for us here.  It is a good time to be playing Liverpool their struggling and have a lot of injuries.  Most United fans would take a draw if it was offered.

 

Still think there is a fair chance this is postponed.   There's talk of blocking the team bus.  What's that do to your bet?

If its called off I believe the treble becomes just a double. I already have a double on the other two legs (I did 3 doubles n a treble) so I am ahead on the lay out. The draw would be nice as everything pays out, but the game off pays too, just not so much. Gives me a small interest in the game at least.

Casemiro is a better signing don't you think? Feels like someone actually put some thought into it.

10 hours ago, Redcanuck said:

Who would you replace Tuchel with?

I can't replace him now, they have allowed him to spend most of the money and others are still on their way. If Roman was still at the club there was a bigger chance someone new was brought in the summer.

Look I m not alone questioning him. Back end of last season the match day ground was full of stories some of the players have had enough of him. Ok, you can expect all squads to have a few of them, but this didn't go away to this day.

His savior is the take-over. Todd and his disciples have nailed their bollocks to him and allowed him to play the market with their money. Makes him safe for the time being and with talk of a new contract, "nailed" sure is the description.

His presser after the game was embarrassing and his club interview he looked in shock as thou its just dawned on him how wrong he is.

Some might say he is just a goalscorer away from a successful season. We have been saying that about the club since Conte fucked us over.

I would like to see him manufacture some results to the positive so it looks like he knows what he is doing. If he did that those players none believing in him would have less of a strong case. This is something he has lacked for most of his time at the club. What we have plenty of are results not going our way followed by the TT excuse show. Everton away performance was as bad as yesterdays and could have been the same result so we have more evidence of the team not playing for him.

The bottom line is we are saddled with him and he may well prove alot of people wrong which obviously I want to happen. However you know me, I am not going to sit in the stands pretending all is going in the right direction when its obvious to those of us watching live it isn't.

Early days, but a season when we were thinking looking upwards in the table would be our thing, already the evidence is we will be looking the other way unless he pulls his finger out.

Could be worse, we could have your problems. Confident tonight? I need the game to finish in a draw to get a HUGE treble up close to a bag a sand.

No worries people, the manager is negotiating an extended contract.

Pretty poor today with lots to question, including his forecasting exactly what Leeds would do in the match days before, yet unable to manufacture a performance from his multi talented squad to be worthy of the shirt.

Hand on heart, how many of this multi talented squad are playing for him? It's a fair question Todd which should be answered before any new contract is signed.

We should get an update on our pursuit of Pierre Emerick Aubameyang today as our people are in Barca to speak to both his club & reps.

Not sure how I feel about him leading our line? One thing for sure, it would be the managers signing alone.

If it is true 7 and 8 are both out until at least the summer window closes should mean 23 stays, which is all good.

Nizaar Kinsella right again 10+ days ago with Cesare Casadei. He also warned while in the States 20 had options which his people were pursuing. Should be an interesting couple of weeks.

Well it was bloody hot from the weather and for a change we were too on the pitch for long periods of the match, but as ever, we found a way to not kill off the inferior team which allowed them to leave with a share of the spoils.

Yeah they got a helping hand (or two) from the officials (the hair pulling defies belief) but this is self inflicted on our part and the shenanigan on the sideline for me deflect another failer by this manager to beat inferior opposition on our pitch.

How poor was 5? Well they pressed him, trapped him for their first goal and he was hooked straight after as the manager reacted too rather than foresaw which was obvious beforehand. In the short time 23 was on the pitch he won the ball back twice and was so mobile we looked to have an extra man.

Not sure what was 12 getting the start for other then putting in the shop window? He did OK for the most part, but his lack of mobility cancels out his good footwork beating players as he is still around to be fouled.

Someone is going to sit me down in a cool corner offer me alcohol and explain to me why we have paid so much for 32. They Better think there is a possible long term problem with 21 cause on Sundays showing Todd left his Nuts on the south coast.

There were positives in the match, but the result for me ruins them.

TT acted the twat after 24's goal, but was right to flag up Conte eyes after the game. He is a worm and I feel sure, while not on football terms, on a personal level he got owned by TT in that moment and it will play on his mind. Nice touch by TT, one that I feel sure others in his position will take notice of.

Lastly, their 2nd goal. They had 3 players in 6 yard box all jumping for the ball that hit Harry and found the net. No Chelsea player challenging and where the fuck was the goalie. I am sorry, good shot stopper, but truly nothing like we have had in the past.

Whats going on with Andreas Christensen? Removing Barcelona from his social accounts and reverting to Chelsea??

Dont like the sound of that.

4 hours ago, Redcanuck said:

We will see how Henderson does at Forest, but I don't think he is good enough for a team wanting to be in the Champions League . Some people say he should have done better on both Newcastle goals last weekend. 

I doubt he was given an ironclad guarantee that he would be number one at United last year,  just that given how poor de Gea was the season before last Henderson would likely start the season as number one.  Unfortunately for Henderson he caught the Chinese Virus, it lingered on and de Gea stepped up . I dont think he was lied to, just that circumstances went against him. 

His rant doesn't help, it's hard to see him playing in an United shirt again. His forcing a loan move before Ten Hag came in and given he says he has not spoken to him since he joined Forest, means he better play well enough for Forest that somebody wants to buy him, or he will spend the prime of his career being loaned out.

I remember Henderson being linked with many top clubs as his contract ran down and Utd fans bashing the club for allowing him the chance to leave on a free. You don't have to be Einstein to work out they must have promised him something to sign the contract and from his rant, being M Utd number one for last season was that promise. What's he worth? 30-40 million? I don't know, maybe more when you take into the fee Kepa cost. So I imagine there was plenty of back slapping for the suits n then manager when he signed.

Judging by his rant, he feels he was lied to, just to get to sign. While I don't agree with him going public, his peace of mind would dictate to do as he has as he could be playing for a CL club now if hadn't been lied too. If United do not like his actions with going public, does he have grounds to ask\get a free transfer?

17 hours ago, MUFC said:

For me De Jong isn't the type of player we need. We need 2 CM's desperately at least one or both have to be able to protect our fragile sack of shit of a defense. But they do need to be good on the ball, creative and be able to press and control a game. 

I'm thinking along the lines of Rice and Bellingham. Firstly it obvious we're skint and secondly why the fuck would they want to join us? I think you lot will get Rice next summer and Liverpool will get Bellingham in the next 2 years. 

I agree with you on Rice. The only way he ends up anywhere else other than Stamford Bridge is if Chelsea decide we don't want him. He and his family are as big a Chelsea fans as my family and others who have Blue in their hearts. Storyville is he has already informed West Ham he will not sign a new contract and they need to broker a deal with us at the end of this season or he will leave for free 2024. We shall see.

On United, I am still of the opinion you have never correctly replaced the defense at the end of Fergie. I told my old mate @Redcanuck back with Jose time there was not one defender at the club who was good enough for a league winning side. Years on, I still don't see anybody filling that description to the positive.

However, my biggest gripe, if gripe is the right word, is with the former United players who jump all over the club after each negative result. They are pathetic and while had careers benefiting from a God like manager, they are all either failures sitting in the Hot seat or not brave enough to get out of the comfy studio and show they have it in them to be a successful manager.

Where do you stand on what happened to Henderson and his outburst?

A step in the right direction would be the fans turning on these negative mouth pieces.