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Honey Honey

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  1. Will they catch then with fishing nets like the Chinese police did? We are going to see a lot of changes next week as the governments Thursday plan has imploded. Serious doubts among government scientists and politicians internally and the scientific community externally have led to an enormous weight of pressure for the UK to catch up and join the actions of the rest of Europe.
  2. A few European countries have put heavy fines on anyone breaking quarantine. That might lower some of the feckless behaviour.
  3. The Italian army are being drafted in to work on the production line in a medical ventilator factory. Apple are going to close all of their retail stores around the world, except those in China
  4. The biggest assumption of all is missing in the conclusions. The W.H.O have mentioned that we don't know yet if herd immunity is actually possible with this virus or if it will continuously morph to stay in circulation as some other strains of flu do. To them, it therefore makes most sense to contain until we understand better.
  5. The behavioural science unit didn't expect unilateral and individual action in the country when consulting on the managed infection plan? Let's be honest, the government is having an absolute shocker.
  6. There's no "the". We know vulnerable people will die. Your language is changing it to "the" vulnerable will die, which implies you can't prevent any of it. That is what you need people to believe to back the public policy you support. Thus it is arguably dishonest.
  7. I don't follow the logic in how the behaviours aren't proactive. You're essentially saying the reactive have to recalibrate, but that they have to doesn't make an action no longer proactive, surely. Sounds more about obedience perhaps. You're simply never going to get obedience toward one approach in a culture like ours. The government could ramp up proactive requirements and still you'd get people ignoring it.
  8. It's simply a difference in mindset. You are reactive not proactive. It's wrong to assume proactivity is panic.
  9. Shame about the shoddy camera work
  10. After the humiliation of the UK government response internationally and due to organisations taking action into their own hands, the government are now going to be taking more severe measures on Monday. They're going to ban mass gatherings over a certain number, number to be decided this weekend. Recommendation is going to be work from home if possible. Other measures might also come out.
  11. UK have more critical cases than US and Germany who both have far more cases declared. There is likely a deliberate approach to not mass test over the fear of creating panic.
  12. To add to that, noises from the World Health Organisation are suggesting it would take years to get herd immunity without dicking your own health care system and having the maximum number of deaths as a result. UK is effectively acting as the control group in this experiment.
  13. Which is why the data shows when they are at school infectious illnesses spread in the local community at a faster rate
  14. The closing of schools is grounded in data. Infections in the local community are at their lowest point during school holidays and spike dramatically as soon as kids go back to school. This is why schools across the world are closed. The UK government says we are in delay phase now. It looks more like what we are delaying is the economic impact rather than the actual virus.
  15. If you are self employed on a full time wage equivalent why don't you have income protection insurance?
  16. Sick pay can start from day 1. That's the only change I know of. Doubt they'll do much more right now. If things escalate then financially it is going to get very complicated for individuals and businesses. Civil service will be planning for that behind closed doors. At the moment if your average pay is over a certain amount you get statutory sick pay, even if zero hours. Less than that you need to go through universal credit, so it isn't really any different to what it was before.
  17. Also hearing in the UK you can't have a coronavirus test if you have the symptoms. You have to have been to one of the countries on their list or in contact with someone who has. That seems outdated now. It should be South Korea style test everyone who sneezes.
  18. UK decided not to move to delay phase yesterday over worry it could cause fatigue by doing so early and send businesses bust. Delay phase means no large gatherings, work from home where you can etc. Anticipated that once that starts it could last for a long time. One thing they should have done is to make anyone with cold or flu symptoms lock themselves away. This is likely to blow up by someone thinking they can't and don't have it and cracking on with life. In South Korea 50 people in a call centre all caught the virus. Unless super carrier, someone must have turned up to work thinking nothing of what they had. In Italy quite clearly hundreds had it whilst thinking they couldn't possibly have it. That is the mindset that spreads this virus faster.
  19. I don't think there will be a health care system. From what I understand what has happened in Lombardy and Wuhan is hospitals become solely for intensive care and everyone else is booted out.
  20. Football stadiums closed for the next 2 weeks in Greece School's in Missouri closing after absolute idiot family told to self quarantine but didn't want to miss the father-daughter ball.
  21. No wonder he was so upset about it. Desperate not to play for Man Utd.
  22. 3 goals and 3 assists in 28 games. Only one team would offer £60m for that and it's Manchester United
  23. Same is likely here. UK is currently in contain phase but could announce moving to delay phase tomorrow. Delay phase means school closures, no large gatherings and working from home for those who can.
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