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To add to that, noises from the World Health Organisation are suggesting it would take years to get herd immunity without dicking your own health care system and having the maximum number of deaths as a result. UK is effectively acting as the control group in this experiment.
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Which is why the data shows when they are at school infectious illnesses spread in the local community at a faster rate
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The closing of schools is grounded in data. Infections in the local community are at their lowest point during school holidays and spike dramatically as soon as kids go back to school. This is why schools across the world are closed. The UK government says we are in delay phase now. It looks more like what we are delaying is the economic impact rather than the actual virus.
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Because this is how UK government works
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If you are self employed on a full time wage equivalent why don't you have income protection insurance?
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Sick pay can start from day 1. That's the only change I know of. Doubt they'll do much more right now. If things escalate then financially it is going to get very complicated for individuals and businesses. Civil service will be planning for that behind closed doors. At the moment if your average pay is over a certain amount you get statutory sick pay, even if zero hours. Less than that you need to go through universal credit, so it isn't really any different to what it was before.
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Also hearing in the UK you can't have a coronavirus test if you have the symptoms. You have to have been to one of the countries on their list or in contact with someone who has. That seems outdated now. It should be South Korea style test everyone who sneezes.
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UK decided not to move to delay phase yesterday over worry it could cause fatigue by doing so early and send businesses bust. Delay phase means no large gatherings, work from home where you can etc. Anticipated that once that starts it could last for a long time. One thing they should have done is to make anyone with cold or flu symptoms lock themselves away. This is likely to blow up by someone thinking they can't and don't have it and cracking on with life. In South Korea 50 people in a call centre all caught the virus. Unless super carrier, someone must have turned up to work thinking nothing of what they had. In Italy quite clearly hundreds had it whilst thinking they couldn't possibly have it. That is the mindset that spreads this virus faster.
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I don't think there will be a health care system. From what I understand what has happened in Lombardy and Wuhan is hospitals become solely for intensive care and everyone else is booted out.
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Football stadiums closed for the next 2 weeks in Greece School's in Missouri closing after absolute idiot family told to self quarantine but didn't want to miss the father-daughter ball.
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Crystal Palace Discussion
Honey Honey replied to Dave's topic in Premier League - English Football Forum
No wonder he was so upset about it. Desperate not to play for Man Utd. -
So no change in your productivity then
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Crystal Palace Discussion
Honey Honey replied to Dave's topic in Premier League - English Football Forum
3 goals and 3 assists in 28 games. Only one team would offer £60m for that and it's Manchester United -
Same is likely here. UK is currently in contain phase but could announce moving to delay phase tomorrow. Delay phase means school closures, no large gatherings and working from home for those who can.
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The tweets are different
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If you're going to lock somewhere down it might be best not to tell people in advance. Wonder if any carriers got out in the evacuation rush last night. It's predicted 3000 people will need intensive care by the end of the month. 18000 cases expected. France could be next.
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The Czech government will fine anyone who doesn't self isolate after visiting Italy. The Slovak government have banned all flights to and from Italy.
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Toilet paper is such a pointless thing to hoard. If you're locked in your own house you can clean with water or the dog
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Not sure if true but apparently in the US you have to pay $3000 if you want to be tested for coronavirus
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Much of what they say comes down from the World Health Organisation and academic contagion expert recommendations. That shouldn't be forgotten, it's easy to frame it as politicians and media, taking aim at two groups considered free to be discredited and disarmed. Associate an opinion with them and you can get people to reject it. A big risk for UK containment. It is vastly underestimated how well China has done on containment. They've dicked their economy to save lives.
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I keep hearing people in real life come out with "it hasn't killed as many people as the seasonal flu" or "only 80,000 cases" or "only 50 people in a country of 60 million" or "the fatality rate is only 2%" or "more people have died in car crashes than of coronavirus" Shall we just not bother containing the virus so that lot can wake up about the danger
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They are WHO contagion control recommendations. There have been 3 major global flu pandemics in the last 110 years which killed millions each time. The worst of which killed an estimated 20-50 million in just one year after infecting an estimated half a billion. COVID-19 has the necessary speed of contagion and mortality rates to do similar damage. Failure to control contagion has already been mapped out to make an estimated 400,000 deaths in the UK alone.
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Newcastle United Discussion
Honey Honey replied to a topic in Premier League - English Football Forum
Haven't really noticed his legs being gone so far but what has surprised me is that he has been a bit of a nothing player. Especially when considering that the previous two left backs, Willems and Ritchie were often at the heart of attacks. Early days though. -
1000 cases in Italy in a week is quite something. Must have been a lot of people out there who have it but think they've just got your typical cold or flu.