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31 minutes ago, El Profesor said:
Chelsea fans, I´m curious, what do you think the objectives should be for this new season? What would you guys consider as a success or a failure?
As long as there is obvious evidence come the end of the season that we are gelling into the winning team he is building for our long term future, then all is well.
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On the face of it the past few months for us Chelsea fans has been exciting as we waited patiently as the medias forever lengthening Chelsea shopping list slowly burned down to the truths.
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17 hours ago, carefreeluke said:
Jody Morris, Lampard's current number two, a few years ago:
"You've got to have a manager that, first and foremost, wants to look," he told Sky Sports.
"We've had managers at Chelsea where they'd be 50 yards away, there'd be a Champions League U19s game going on, and the manager's sat in his office, rather than coming out to watch. It's very disheartening."It's not my place to go over there and start talking to managers, but some managers aren't interested - they don't care about youth. They judge the first team and want to get their own players in.
"The thing about Chelsea is I don't think there's an academy in this country that's better, but it doesn't look like that on paper because of the amount of players who are not playing in the first team.
"The players are good enough, most definitely, but the managers are not, for one, aware of them. It's alright someone going in and talking up a player and saying 'this player's got European Player of the Year in an U19 tournament, won the World Cup, and is one of the best players at his age group' - if they don't see him, physically, that doesn't get you him.
"You need to see it - Claudio Ranieri's point of playing John Terry was the fact that he went to watch him. He saw him, said 'right, he's playing for me' - and in. There's nothing better than seeing players in the flesh. It's alright people talking them up but you have to see it in the flesh."
Lots of our fellow Chelsea fans singing the praises of Jody & I have written in the past we may find other clubs interested in him as their manager in the near future. The words you quote of his were brutally honest at the time and probably points towards the pressure those managers were under to deliver. Those of us who have been regulars at the club for 50 years know the youth team was always the life blood of the club. While the success Romans money has helped us to enjoy, seeing young guys come through under Frank & counting to 5 or 6 youth products on the pitch at one time in some games used to be what the club was all about. Long may it continue, but I do get the feeling, one or two maybe moved on to thin out the squad. Shame
What would you do with CHO next season?
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Yes, Frank has got an easy time of it (not from me), but surly that is to be expected baring the situation he inherited. He, along with others in his family are darlings of the media which also helps, however, the build them up before knocking them down jumping up n down on their head our media are famous for will still apply to Frank if his team does not progress. To end the season with silverware would be wonderful, but it's not essential. I cant think of many other Chelsea managers afforded that luxury. His appointment has proved a masterstroke as it unified the match day attending fans which are always the most important fanbase at any club.
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14 hours ago, LFCMadLad said:
Mad how Chelsea can spend 100's of millions whilst everyone else (apart from City) has to struggle on?
I can tell its really going to bug you your club being known in history as the "Furlough Champions" of the Asterisk season.
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There is no doubt Frank has managed to come up smelling of Roses in his first full season as manager. While he accepted the duff hand of no transfers of his making, loss of the leagues best player and being forced to make a decision on the one defensive player who was comfortable playing left centre half position, he has managed to get what is the ultimate minimum for Chelsea Football Club.
Overall, wonderful end to the League season, well deserved praise for our Frank with the understanding we will expect MUCH more next season from him and his team, because next season it truly will be HIS team.
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22 hours ago, Redcanuck said:
Its mind boggling how much De Gea has slipped. I wonder if his eyes need checking? I cant figure out what's going on.
I dont know about his eyes, but I understand the United club Doctor has said De Gea no longer has to wear a face mask during training after diagnosing he currently cant catch anything
Yes, I fully accept our sack of Spanish shit is equally worthy of any amount of criticism, but after your Ernie Wise "Doctor" set up line, I couldnt resist mate.
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Lots of evidence to clear the shit from Franks eyes last night which should benefit our team & help us move forward.
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Interesting show on Talksport Radio where a number of agents were asked to offer two signings they expect Chelsea & other top clubs to make before the start of next season. Top two names for us……..Havertz & Rice
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21 hours ago, Stan said:
It's similar to a formation we've been trying but like you say, it's the personnel.
I don't think we'll play 3 at the back again this season. Bennett just isn't up to it.
You guys impressed yesterday. Seemed defensively sound and going forward, the midfield (led by Mount) and attack really clicked.
More managers need to make a note of the penalties they're getting. Just draw attention to it without saying anything provocative.
Yes it is unfortunate what has happened at Leicester at what has turned out to be a crucial end of season. Injuries and suspensions have been a major factor opening up the 3rd slot for automatic CL qualification. I believe at one time Leicester were comfortable 10 points clear of 5th. Its not over yet. We have proved to be unreliable\inconsistent and United are looking punchy. It's a real shame West Ham are already safe as they can prove to be a real handful when needing points. That’s our fault from a few weeks back. Unreliable\Inconsistent.
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Well done Frank. It’s about time something went his way. While United may have got positive results in the previous 3 fixtures, it wasn’t by their performances on the pitch and by the way they chose to set up at Wembley, they knew that fact too!
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On 15/07/2020 at 22:49, Danny said:
Next season has to be Frank makes a good go of the title or he gets the sack right? With the players coming in a title challenge should be the minimum requirement?
He will have had his Mulligan season where truth be said he has done better than most imagined. He is a bright boy and will know more will be expected of the team next. Losing his position will be determined by how long we are still going for the main pot. His standing with the club will count for a lot, however the list of potential replacements will be longer than normal if the alleged young squad is put together by the end of the summer window.
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Unconvincing performance but the correct result for the club. Norwich are very weak, lucky for us and didn’t really offer anything going forward. They were helped by another clueless starting line up from our young manager. At least he got the Center forward right from the start this time, although Giroud missed plenty of chances to make the game far more of a stroll than it turned out to be.
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Hey there can’t be anyone of us who didn’t accept a result like this could happen to us from what we have seen since the return of the Asterisk season, While we can look irresistible going forward at times, we are also the pin up boys for weak pussyfoot defending not seen at our club in decades. Even when we were shit, & I was there, the defending was full of heart n commitment. Can anyone honestly say those two utmost important ingredients are evident in our team?
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Jorginho Agent's pressing Pin's into his Billy Gilmour and N'Golo Kante Dolls has come up trumps.
Unless Frank looks towards James in his future position?
Surely not?
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Shocking performance. I am so tired of dominating teams for long periods only to be fighting a rear guard action for the final 15 mins of the match. Yes we really missed Kante infront of the four, but the truth is we are wide open to any team who decide to have a go. It’s the major fault against Franks year in charge. 4 league games to go and we have not improved defensively and you could argue we have got worse.
Sorry to see Gary go down like that.
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Plenty of Chelsea outlets nailing their nuts to Kai Havertz being the next signing through the door.
Class act, but we are hardly light in his area of the pitch.
Plus, how come our new kits get leaked so often? 2nd kit is leaked by the same outlet who managed to get the first kit. footheadlines
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I must start this off by saying I don’t think I have wanted a Chelsea manager to succeed as much as I do with our Frank. The rarest Bird of all, an educated English footballer from a professional football family, he has always struck me as someone who would seamlessly move from pitch to sideline. The time between the last two games I have entered into much debate with fellow Chelsea fans who’s opinion I respect. Some are of the opinion Frank will hold us back from coming to fruition through inexperience & unable to find the correct balance between homegrown’s & signings. Others like myself have been very critical of many of his decisions through the season especially the length of time he allowed Tammy to keep Giroud off the pitch, a decision I believe has left us still with a question mark over our CL qualification. I think its very important to state, while I am not enthusiastic in his performance so far this season, I hold a belief he will get better & make more correct calls as he gets more time in the seat & understanding of his players. While there are some who feel his position may be questioned without CL next season, I believe the Club & owner are of a mind he stays come what may.
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Well its been plain for anyone with an ounce of football knowledge, our defence has more holes in it than an evening toasted Crumpet. Last night we reached a new level of incompetence and I woke this morning to the news Christensen is hoping to sign a new 5 year contract with us before next season. Where have the days Pep touching him up escorting him off the pitch gone? At the time I said sell him!! Man we cant catch a break!
I have said it before and I’ll say it again, those giving Alonso stick do not understand football. He is a wing back and anything he does wrong in a 4 is down to the bloke selecting him. The same goes for the other useless Left wing back we have on the books.
Talking of that bloke who picks the team. As far back as the very start of the season I was calling for Frank to employ someone to sort the defending out. I watched the after game press conference where he was asked about our defending and sure enough he answers as thou he is still in denial.
Pulisic outstanding Tammy passenger Willian another above average performance Christensen and Ruduger no better than Sunday morning level. What was Dave doing? Who signed that goalie? Midfield controlled a game West Ham set up to hit on the break. Lastly, Reuben Loftus-Cheek, why on earth is he getting airtime in such important fixtures? He looks two yards behind the pace of the games. More poor management.
Well done West Ham. My phone rang within minutes of the final whistle where my West Ham buddy was full of beans, as he should have been. However, he also informed me the last time West Ham did the double over us, they got relegated! They arnt very good, but they sure were good enough to do us over.
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Strange game at Leicester. I didnt like the look of the opening selection and while I never imagined we would open so poorly, we can be thankful that Maddison was missing as I am sure he wouldnt have wasted all the opportunities of easy possession that were gifted by our mob.
While the manager is getting slaps on the back from his "bravery" 3 man subs, I tend to think the bloke who sent out that starting shower of shit should be stuck up against a wall n reminded plenty of others could be given his job.
If its true what he is alleged to have said to the players at half time, I got to say it brought a smile to my face. It the kind of stuff the whole club has needed to hear for a number of years.
Unluckiest player of the day was Tammy who had a wonderful finish ruled out for offside. I think we all agree, he really does need a goal.
Barkley continues to offer more n more to the team, although he is becoming as hit or miss as Willian on breakaways with the ball at his feet. Passing while busting a gut forward sure isnt his strong point, but overall I still think he is an absolute steal and prove to be a key player in the future.
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Declan Rice returning Andre Onana replacing Kepa who is off to Valencia for a couple of years Kai Havertz keen to join Timo at Stamford Bridge, if his first choice in Spain prove to be potless and the Leicester left back said to be refusing to rule out a move to London. All these stories making the rounds, but for me none of those deals are as important as finding a natural left sided center half who is solid in the battle and comfortable on the ball. Yes, a very rare Bird, but one we need to find before we are complete.
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On 26/06/2020 at 18:32, carefreeluke said:
The jury's still out on Pulisic for me, I think he's been a bit of a mixed bag overall. He loses the ball a bit too much and I think personally that's an area of his game he has to improve. He's still young though and we'll see in the next few years if he can develop even more and get some true consistency going. The potential is there though.
Yes, to be fair too you since I wrote this on Pulisic elsewhere a couple of others have commented on his ball retention, or lack of it at times. However, the point I am making, of this seasons squad, when all are fit & available, from strict performances on the pitch, the boy is the only shoe-in of the players who play in his end of the pitch. Granted he has plenty of room to develop as you say.
Baring in mind the high numbers of people who questioned his signing before he arrived at the club, we should be very happy with what we have seen from him during this/his stop start *asterisk* season.
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What to me looked very much like a training game in the first half as Chelsea allowed City to dominate possession, turned into a little better game in the second half. I have read a lot of you here are making quite a bit about this performance and result.
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Villa are poor but not as poor as our central defensive pair yesterday.
While exciting signings at the business end of the pitch points towards maybe a better percentage of chances finished, our defending is atrocious. Each time Rudiger plays the left side of the defence, its as thou he sulks and his performance suffers. Christensen has been much the same all season and I would have thought a decision will need to be made on his Chelsea future before long.
However, as bad those two were, someone else was far worse during his 5 mins on the pitch. Young James managed to lose the ball 3 times in the few mins he was on the pitch. PATHETIC!
The boys looked very fit and most did plenty of running so that was pleasing. A couple of questionable starting selections. Reuben Loftus-Cheek starting wide left? Not sure about that. Anyway, we managed to get away with it, more by the lack of decent opposition than anything we produced.
As someone that goes to most of the games live, when I am forced to watch my club on TV I have got into the habit over a number of years of switching the commentators off during the game. Lets face it they talk bollocks and we dont need them when sitting in the stands around the country. Anyone else miss the names of the Villa players on the back of their shirts? I can name two maybe three Villa players at a push and I found it very frustrating not being able to put a name to a players contribution.
Yesterdays result was one of the few times this season we have taken advantage of the teams around us dropping points. An advantage that may last only four days or so, but a welcome change all the same.
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So that's two exciting signings so far with us continuing to be linked with a number of others. I am not a fan of the Leicester left back defensively & others linked to us in that position tend to be more eye catching going forward than what should be their Bread n Butter, defending. I think its very important while we are one of the few with cash on the hip, we make signings which instantly improve the team, which I feel sure both Hakim Ziyech & Timo Werner will do.
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Hope all my fellow Chelsea fans n families who frequent this thread are happy n healthy.
Stay vigilant. Boris n his gang don't know their heads from their asses.
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