Guest Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I have to admit I was spot on about the Bundesliga. Easily the worst of the top 5 leagues in Europe.
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted September 28, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 3:12 PM, Blue said: I have to admit I was spot on about the Bundesliga. Easily the worst of the top 5 leagues in Europe.
Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, Viva la FCB said: All due respect but your league is hugely overrated
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted September 28, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 8:43 AM, Blue said: All due respect but your league is hugely overrated Next your going to tell me theres a certain Peruvian CB that would be better then 80% of our CB's.
Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Viva la FCB said: Next your going to tell me theres a certain Peruvian CB that would be better then 80% of our CB's. Don't really feel like picking out an argument but when your clubs stopped getting smashed in a European round of 16 maybe I'll talk there. I'll say it again, all due respect. I just find it really overrated. Entertaining and fun league but in terms of standard its not better than the PL, Serie A, La Liga and Ligue 1.
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted September 28, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 9:11 AM, Blue said: Don't really feel like picking out an argument but when your clubs stopped getting smashed in a European round of 16 maybe I'll talk there. I'll say it again, all due respect. I just find it really overrated. Entertaining and fun league but in terms of standard its not better than the PL, Serie A, La Liga and Ligue 1. We will massively disagree in that regard. Its insulting to say its a worse league then the Italian and French league tbh, not worth it. Carry on.
Administrator Stan Posted September 28, 2017 Author Administrator Posted September 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, Blue said: Don't really feel like picking out an argument but when your clubs stopped getting smashed in a European round of 16 maybe I'll talk there. I'll say it again, all due respect. I just find it really overrated. Entertaining and fun league but in terms of standard its not better than the PL, Serie A, La Liga and Ligue 1. 16/17 Dortmund & Bayern got to QFs 15/16 Bayern got to SFs - 14/15 Bayern got to SFs - beat Juve in R16 13/14 Bayern got to SFs - beat Man Utd. 12/13 Bayern vs Dortmund final - Bayern beat Juve, Barcelona; Dortmund beat Malaga, Real Madrid. 11/12 Bayern got to final - beating Marseille 4-0 and Real Madrid on aggregate 10/11 Bayern in R16 - lost on aggregate; Schalke got to QFs beating Inter. 09/10 Bayern got to final - beat Man Utd on aggregate 08/09 Bayern got to QFs - beat Sporting Lisbon 12-1 aggregate 07/08 Schalke got to QFs stop chatting shit.
Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, Stan said: 16/17 Dortmund got to QFs 15/16 Bayern got to SFs 14/15 Bayern got to SFs 13/14 Bayern got to SFs 12/13 Bayern vs Dortmund final 11/12 Bayern got to final 10/11 Bayern in R16 - lost on aggregate 09/10 Bayern got to final 08/09 Bayern got to QFs 07/08 Schalke got to QFs stop chatting shit. Yeah, and all those times Schalke, Gladbach and even Bayern themselves got smashed by teams in better leagues. Seems only Dortmund go out with honour these days. Oh and while the Europa league isn't anywhere near as relevant I haven't forgotten the Italian semi-finalists + Lyon last year. Agree to disagree. My opinion. Move on.
Administrator Stan Posted September 28, 2017 Author Administrator Posted September 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Blue said: Yeah, and all those times Schalke, Gladbach and even Bayern themselves got smashed by teams in better leagues. Seems only Dortmund go out with honour these days. Oh and while the Europa league isn't anywhere near as relevant I haven't forgotten the Italian semi-finalists + Lyon last year. Agree to disagree. My opinion. Move on. no. You said 'until your clubs stop getting smashed in round of 16'. Literally just disproved your argument in one post because not once have they been smashed in that round. Last 10 years, they haven't been 'smashed' in that round. Also, it's not like German teams are the only teams to get smashed in quarters or semi finals. Barcelona got humiliated by Bayern. Bayern embarrass Arsenal as standard. Bayern beat Marseille 4-0 on aggregate. The anomaly (which you'll cling on to no doubt) is that Leverkusen got thrashed by Barcelona in 2011/12 and PSG in 13/14. This doesn't demean the Bundesliga as a whole or mean it's overrated though! 'my opinion. move on'. well done. The right thing to do when you get proved wrong in a debate .
Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stan said: no. You said 'until your clubs stop getting smashed in round of 16'. Literally just disproved your argument in one post because not once have they been smashed in that round. Last 10 years, they haven't been 'smashed' in that round. 'my opinion. move on'. well done. The right thing to do when you get proved wrong in a debate . Well aside from the fact I was somewhat exagerrating as its literally happened at least once in most stages recently, you are actually wrong as Schalke lost 6-1 a few years back to Real Madrid at home in the round of 16. I could give more arguments but I'm a bit busy now and I'm literally only online for a distraction.
Administrator Stan Posted September 28, 2017 Author Administrator Posted September 28, 2017 so in 10 years a German team (the same team on 2 occasions) has been thrashed in the round of 16 only 3 times? Face it, German league isn't as weak as you make it out to be.
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted September 28, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 9:29 AM, Stan said: 16/17 Dortmund & Bayern got to QFs 15/16 Bayern got to SFs - 14/15 Bayern got to SFs - beat Juve in R16 13/14 Bayern got to SFs - beat Man Utd. 12/13 Bayern vs Dortmund final - Bayern beat Juve, Barcelona; Dortmund beat Malaga, Real Madrid. 11/12 Bayern got to final - beating Marseille 4-0 and Real Madrid on aggregate 10/11 Bayern in R16 - lost on aggregate; Schalke got to QFs beating Inter. 09/10 Bayern got to final - beat Man Utd on aggregate 08/09 Bayern got to QFs - beat Sporting Lisbon 12-1 aggregate 07/08 Schalke got to QFs stop chatting shit. Its not worth it mate, dont try to use logic!
Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stan said: so in 10 years a German team (the same team on 2 occasions) has been thrashed in the round of 16 only 3 times? Face it, German league isn't as weak as you make it out to be. The only thing I will face is that I'm not trying to argue. I've had this opinion for the longest time and the result yesterday didn't help the case. Schalke has been smashed by Chelsea, Real, Gladbach has been smashed several times, Bayern has been smashed by the top top teams, Dortmund isn't the contending team everyone says they are. I'm not talking facts, I'm talking opinions. Its a good league but for me its the worst of the 5.
Administrator Stan Posted September 28, 2017 Author Administrator Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, Blue said: The only thing I will face is that I'm not trying to argue. I've had this opinion for the longest time and the result yesterday didn't help the case. Schalke has been smashed by Chelsea, Real, Gladbach has been smashed several times, Bayern has been smashed by the top top teams, Dortmund isn't the contending team everyone says they are. I'm not talking facts, I'm talking opinions. Its a good league but for me its the worst of the 5. that's fair enough. You can have your opinion. But when it's based on the wrong information it weakens your opinion making it harder to justify
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