Dave

People remember the good Man City players, but a lot of blown cold. Edozie and Bazunu contributed to the square root of FA for Southampton, whilst the likes of Liam Delap and Luke Mbete who were anticipated to 'breeze through this level' have appeared to have gone backwards at this level. Then there's players like Ben Knight, CJ Egan-Riley and Kian Breckin who people have completely forgotten about.

Very brave of him to share this story.

A good read over four tweets.

I think we will have similar sides to begin with, all three relegated sides have good fixtures to start along with Watford and Norwich.

In your financial situation, what do you expect? He was very consistent for Aston Villa last season and is good to have someone in the dressing room. If anything it strengthens my belief you'll stay up again next season.

Jesus he's still there? I presumed he had retired.

He's very injury prone.

The main ones really been the treatment of Olise and Eze. From what's been said from people that would know what's going on, Patrick Vieira had a tough love approach with both of them, and Eze in particular looked destroyed of all belief and confidence as he played in a deep midfield role in Patrick's last game against Brighton. I think that's a big thing that caused Parish and Co to lose faith in the project. Weirdly, the tough love he had with Eze and Olise was the opposite of how others were treated. The Athletic reported Shaun Derry was released (although Ambrose reckons hes always been on the pay role) because he ripped in to the senior players for there performance against Everton. Patrick didn't agree with it and removed him from the backroom staff. I imagine part of that was Vieira felt guilty for trying to push a 4-1-4-1 formation on the team which he changed after that match and Derry was the fall guy for a 'clean slate'. The one gripe I had with Vieira was his second half substitutions which was a situation that didn't improve over time. That said, from what Osian Roberts full job title was, he may not have been well advised by the experienced head next to him. I still think its harsh we got rid of Vieira before the fixture turn but the results Roy got with Eze as the focal point justifies there decision. I'm glad he's gone to France, as if he went to a team like Forest in November and they went above us, the atmosphere would be very toxic.

Go Otmar!

Shaun Derry's rejoining the coaching staff. It adds weight to the rumours that Vieira removing him after his outburst at the players for the Everton result was the beginning of the end.

I can't see what he'd gain by spending another year in this divison.