Gunnersaurus
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On 25/09/2023 at 18:51, The Palace Fan said:
I think if Ospreay signs there's no need to build him and he can go straight in the title picture. He's got big wins over Orange Cassidy and Chris Jericho already.
I think we would need a bit if a build up. I actually think swerve Strickland is showing a lot of potential. Never really thought of him before as a world champion but I think he could be in a year or so.
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1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:
Nah I say that about English and Spanish refs. Because they are shite.He missed a blatant red card on Nigel de Jong’s foul on Alonso in that World Cup final. It’s not evidence of him being a good referee. That final was terribly officiated and went out of control - I’m pretty sure it remains the World Cup final with the most amount of bookings, and players lost their heads and got incredibly aggressive after that De Jong challenge because they thought they’d get away with any foul without being sent off.
Italian and German refs seem to be far less shite than ours. Why is that?
That was a bad decision but he was still good enough to get to the final. Every country has good and bad refs. I remember reading about the top rated refs in the world and they mainly come from different countries. He was still way better than most.
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6 minutes ago, Stan said:
Webb's not worse than Riley, either.
Webb is less shit, but at least he vocally wants some change and improvement. I don't ever recall Riley saying anything to actually try and improve the situation.
He did improve it over the time he was there I think. It was clearly better in season 3 than 1. The problem with being vocal is if you don't do what you said you get heavily critised. I can understand him being less vocal. You do have to remember a lot of the decisions have subjective elements to them. Most fans think they get the most bad decisions against them. With means they think it's worse than it is. You're one of the few I've seen who doesn't do that
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2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:
He was shite
You say that about every referee. You don't referee a world cup final of you're not good
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1 hour ago, RandoEFC said:
The mistake made at the weekend was poor communication between the referee and the VAR official. I don't see how that could be allowed to happen, it's an absolutely horrendous error. But I think it's why people are (correctly in my opinion) kicking up a fuss about Darren England jetting off to the Middle East to make extra money refereeing in the UAE. If the human error made was as simple as him not having seen what had happened with the on-pitch decision, then it calls into question why? Jet lag and general tiredness are up there with the most plausible of possible explanations. They're supposed to be professionals, and like it or not, a part of your job is to turn up fit for work.
My profession is teaching and I'm based on the Isle of Man. If I was coming into work half-awake every Monday morning because I was flying off to Dubai every weekend and getting back at 2am on Sunday night because someone was paying me £1000 an hour to privately tutor their kids then I'd be getting called out by my employer. People don't have a right to make money from a "side-hustle" if it impacts upon their ability to do the primary job they're paid to do properly and if it can be suggested that this little trip to the UAE left him less than 100% fit to do his job in the VAR room on Sunday then that needs looking into I'm afraid.
Bribes though - sorry, not buying it. Football is unpredictable. Say Spurs or a Spurs fan wanted to bribe the referee to help them beat Liverpool and paid them £5 million. A) Spurs might be able to win anyway so it's a waste of money. B) Spurs might lose or draw even if the referee manages to make a couple of key decisions in their favour so it's a waste of money. C) There might not even be a marginal call in the match to enable the referee to influence the match in any significant fashion so it's a waste of money.
I don't really disagree with what you have said. But stupid errors happen all the time. You can miss hear what someone said you can quite easily misread things. Although it was very bad a do agree. I don't agree that it's an error that no reasonable competent person would make. I see these things happen all the time.
However there does have to be repercussions I do agree. However he has been suspended I think. I know there is a point based systems and the better referees get bigger games with more money. Whether referees should be demoted more often depends on whether you have better referees to replace them with.
As for the bribes. I'm not saying I think there are bribes. But I wouldn't be surprised if there was. Someone could be bribed to try to influence a game best they can.
Someone I worked with from Bulgaria told me there is mass corruption iver there so its not totally un heard of. Also didn't a referee never referee another game in la liga after sending Ronaldo of?
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15 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:
I thought Riley was bad as the head of PMGOL - but Webb is somehow worse. Just like when they were referees.
Dunno how 2 of the most shite refs I’ve seen in my life ended up as the boss of all referees in the country… but it explains a lot about the state of officiating in the country.
Webb got selected for a world cup final. He wasn't shite
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43 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:
There's not a conspiracy. I'm sorry, but there just isn't. You can't fix or rig a football match and the fact that Liverpool were within one minute of a draw away to one of the strongest opponents in the league despite having two red cards and a legitimate goal disallowed should be all the evidence you need that even if someone wanted to affect the outcome of a football match or season then it would be basically impossible for a team of officials to do so effectively without it being explicitly witnessed by millions of people across the world.
Yes, there should be more transparency, there should be more accountability for referees but can we at least screw our heads back on here and stop making out like they're discriminating against anyone? They're just shite. Who would even want to rig a match in favour of Spurs against Liverpool? Why would they? These shocking decisions happen every weekend. This is one of the worst examples but it's not the only one of its magnitude.
Just because The Anfield Wrap might have tweeted that there's a conspiracy and RAWK have said the match should be replayed or the Premier League has no integrity and 25,000 other angry Liverpool fans have liked or retweeted it doesn't make it true. It's forgivable to cry conspiracy in the heat of the moment but you've had two nights to sleep it off so continuing to read these claims on a Monday morning is just starting to get a bit silly. It's time for everyone to put their big-boy pants back on now.
I don't think there's a conspiracy. But there may well be bribes. The problem is the mistake on the weekend was so bad it would be such a risk. The referee could get sacked or demoted for it. If you were gonna take a bribe you would do it for something you could get away with. Also I'm not gonna get into referee standards again because I can't be bothered. But humans are remarkable good at not seeing things that are right in front of their face. A lot of people think(which is partly promoted by the media) that because of var there won't be any mistakes but the human brain doesn't work that way. And actually pretty easy to miss something right infront of you.
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@Devil-Dick Willie corbyn was very left wing though. Its always hard for anyone who is very hard left or right to get in. Part of the reason mogg has not been put forward for conservative leader is because he is to right wing. It works both ways.
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On 01/10/2023 at 06:09, MUFC said:
Always thought for years that there was corruption in football via dodgy betting and refs. Since VAR was introduced and seeing how dodgy so many decisions still are. Am pretty certain the Premier real has forms of corruption going on.
If they do it probably benefits the top clubs and man utd probably benefit from it
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3 hours ago, MUFC said:
It kind of feels more acceptable pre-VAR as it's much more difficult. But when you have replays which still aren't always clear. When it's blatantly obvious with replays what the outcome should be and they're still getting it wrong. Is there any point to it?
You still more decisions right with it. And a lot of the decisions fans don't agree with so it proves its not clear and obvious. Let's be fair mate even of they used a super computer that was 100% accurate a lot of fans would still moan.
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4 hours ago, 6666 said:
Hearing pundits and journalists say VAR should be gotten ridden of is doing my head in.
Offside decisions being incorrect was a lot more common before VAR and the mistake in the Tottenham/Liverpool wouldn't have happened if the officials on that day were competent.
That's a balanced view I'd say. The mistake on the weekend was one of the worst mistakes ever. It doesn't happen every week. For me personally I would change it slightly. To disalow a goal I would keep the clear and obvious bit.I don't think anyone wants to see every goal checked. However for red cards and penalties I would allow the var officials to say what they think is more likely not a clear mistake. By doing that I think you will get more correct decisions and it wouldn't slow down the game to much. In other sports it doesn't have to be a clear error they can go on what is more likely. Part of the issue with var is that fans are biased towards their own club. Virtually every single fan thinks referees are against them. Which gives an unbalanced view. At the same time I do admit it hasn't worked as well as I thought it would.
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1 hour ago, Stan said:
Is it me or do Brighton do this on the regular? Even under Potter, they'd go on some good form, play good football and score a fair amount. Then throw in an absolute dogturd performance even a League Two team would be disappointed with.
There was the 5.1 against Everton last season. Overall I'm sure their fans will be happy with where they are
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@Devil-Dick Willie A lot of labour supporters aren't to keen on starmer because he is to conservative. I'm not to keen on him myself personally. Originally when I read about his policies I thought he was OK but he has gradually got more conservative.
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On 14/07/2023 at 11:32, CaaC (John) said:
Bloody useless at this but here goes.
League Positions:
- Arsenal
- City
- Man United
- Liverpool
- Spurs
- Chelsea
- Newcastle
- Aston Villa
- West Ham
- Palace
- Brighton
- Brentford
- Burnley
- Nott Forest
- Sheffield United
- Wolves
- Fulham
- Everton
- Luton
- Bournemouth
Top Scorer - Haaland (yawn)
Golden Glove - Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal)
Most Goals From Outside the Box - De Bruyne (City)
Most Assists - Fernandes (Man United)
Most Red Cards (Player) - Casemiro (Man United)
Most Red Cards (Club) - Nottingham Forest
Most Penalties Conceded (Club) - Arsenal
Most Own Goals (Club) - Man United
You predict us to loose every week but you think we'll win the league
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7 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:
Yeah, I think Will Ospreay is the beat candidate to win the title from MJF at the minute, which is a little odd as he's not signed with AEW.
I don't think mjf keeps the title till next August. I think it would have been good to have osprey beat a heel cm punk. But unless they get him back that obviously won't happen. I know we've seen it before but I think osprey v omega would be an amazing main event at all in next year.
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Australia going out in the pool stage for the first time at the moment
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7 hours ago, The Palace Fan said:
I was fine as long as two women sitting dead in the centre weren't watching the show standing on there chair whilst everyone was sitting down.
Its not my cup of tea but the people that went Rev Pro were raving about it.
I think the wrestling is quite good. Be worth it to see osprey but I think he rarely wrestles there. Personally I think he could win the aew championship next year at all in if he signs with aew. Not sure when his contract runs out with njpw but he would only need about 6 months of build up I think.
@Devil-Dick Willie have you ever been to any independent shows? I figured it would be good live even if the standard of wrestling isn't great. Although I have heard rev pro is good but I'm not sure what standard a regional promotion would be like
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11 hours ago, MUFC said:
Been protests over the weekend in the UK to stop the ban.
Well there was always gonna be. The people who have them can still keep the ones they have. They just have to muzzle them and get then neutered.
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3 hours ago, Bluebird Hewitt said:
McGuiness scores from a corner. This could very well be one of the most undeserved wins in the Championship this season if it stays like this.
1-0 to us.
My friend who's a Cardiff fan told me it was completely against the run of play but she'd take it
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59 minutes ago, Stan said:
Genuinely relieved our record remains in tact
When it got to 6 and 7 I thought they'd do it easy.
Looking forward to the highlights of Arsenal/Spurs. Only had Flashscore for company for that game. Looked very eventful!
I was gonna point out that there had been other 9.0s but then I realised you meant away win. I do think there is a chance city could get ten against Luton
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Interesting fact is Newcastle how now beaten both Sheffield teams 8.0 now. Then beat Wednesday 8.0 in 1999-2000 season.
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Bollocks. Can't beat a team with a manager with a name no one can pronounce
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21 minutes ago, Inverted said:
I think fundamentally most dog bites/attacks fall into two categories
(i) highly aggressive but ultimately not physically powerful enough to be dangerous to a human
(ii) physically powerful but can be warded-off with a moderate amount of resistance.
Most dog breeds, and most animals generally, do not want to get themselves killed or injured. Even when showing extreme aggression. A sufficient amount of pain or intimidation will get most dogs to give up long before they or someone else is seriously injured. The issue with pitbulls and especially XL Bullys is that they have the strength to kill and absolutely no sense of self preservation.
Once they have prey in sight they will keep going until the prey is killed/maimed, they find another target, or they are physically incapable of keeping going. I've seen them get kicked by horses, sprayed with bear spray, or even shot, and they will not give up.
A few years ago a jack Russel attacked my cocker spaniel. I was able to get him of. If that was an xl bully I'd have no chance. He would of killed him before I even reacted probably. Now if 2 or 3 jack Russell went for me I could probably defend myself. If a an xl bully did I wouldn't be able to get it of me. If 2 did they could probably kill me.
I have heard of pitbulls carrying on after being shot as well.
Premier League 2023/24 Gameweek 7 - 30th Sept-3rd Oct, 2023
in Premier League Match Day Chat
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Like I said didn't the ref who red carded Ronaldo not referee a game again that season in la liga? I don't think it's unreasonable to think there may be corruption.