Fairy In Boots

Hanging outside chicken shops good grief what a shithole it has become Tbh if it was 1-2% of pensioners you would take that now, harsh as it sounds. We’re easily in the most testing time since WW2 now and it’s not even got running yet, desperate times will mean brutal decisions sadly. They are though to some degree, I know loads isolating, I didn’t visit my mom today, last night me and the lads got pushed via house party app. It will slow down as we get deeper into it Ice cream men up here are delivering bread and milk etc.

Sorry to hear that and for your loss

My mate is a operating theatre technician for a specialist service hospital and they’ve allocated their role by covid response teams. Basically all special service hospitals will be where co morbidity (an existing illness that is potentially fatal) patients are transferred at a certain point to these hospitals out of general. The aneathetists have been told their role is to preside over them while their immune system helps them or they die. Prioritising like Italy will be for ventilators and icu to go to others based on criteria. to quote the Him “theres fuck all we’re going to be able to do except watch them die, it causes sepsis of the lungs and at that point there’s fuck all they can do for you” I think we will be at 1000 by next Friday

We’re socially distancing I was told not to take my boy for a hair cut today by the mrs. also the Mrs 10 mins later “go to B&Q and finish that job” I didn’t go lol

The harsh reality is because our economy is so service dependent they will attempt to ride it with ventilators and excess staff to get us operational ASAP. Our shutdown coincides with Easter holiday and they’re trying to get ahead of it to get most of us infected cured then back out again on ventilators pitch’s go into NHS back end of next week, 70,000 to be built ASAP it is happening I’m just personally dubious we won’t be ready by the start of the peak which is estimated 2 weeks away. I was I’ll start if feb I had 72 hours of fever and weak and a dry hacking none productive cough for 2 weeks after. I reckon it was this tbh but who knows I’m 34 fairly fit run approx 12miles a week none smoker but this took me out for a good 3-4 days

I used to buy from a company called isis they had a similar issue a few years back

It’s now 60+ they’re not treating imagine that it’s working age We are a less tactile culture than Italy and the hope is our health system will cope. Personally the ventilators won’t be ready in time and we will suffer death due to not having equipment.

This is going to kill more in the states than the standard mortality rate, the reason obesity if your diaphragm struggles anyway you’re fucked. saw today 3 out of a family of 11 are dead imagine that

I don’t think people truly appreciate the travesty that is unfolding in Italy. Basically their ICU Is overrun so they don’t have ventilators or beds to accommodate the Numbers requiring critical care. Because of this they’re going with below 70 years old and letting the 70+ die. its inflating the death rate because if beds and ventilators were available many of these people would be ok instead they’re dying in makeshift hospitals, literally drowning in their own lung fluid. Horrible situation and I feel for the Italians

I think it’s inevitable now China is going to come under quite a bit of international pressure to improve its sanitary standards because this isn’t the first time a flu pandemics have come out of their markets. I think it will also be used to justify trade wars and protectionism by all. This will wake countries up to the importance of supply chains for important resources. bizarre choice of words you were the coronavirus in WW2

perfectly timed so interesting given what’s going on

I saw plans to build 10,000 ventilators urgently by the government who are prepared to wave a lot of red tape to get it done ASAP then they want 10,000 drops each month to build us up to 100,000 by year end. They need 14,000 quickly though as they want 20,000 to cope with the first peak they expect in early April and have gone to medical specialist manufacturers not JCB. can’t put anymore as I shouldn’t really say all this it was all hush hush under NDA’s etc In engineering terms though they haven’t fucked about it’s like when we went to Iraq it’s big money being spent quickly to get shit done in fairness they have legitimate drawings and specifications and they aren’t worried about price, it’s about speed and quality

I won’t name companies etc but I know medical ventilator companies in the U.K. and have worked with them on ventilators in the past. this idea that JCB could bang out medical ventilators in a week is madness, there’s rigorous testing and accreditation’s that need to be adhered to. It’s a PR stunt nothing more, bluntly we won’t be able to meet demand it’s too late

There’s a daily briefing coming as you don’t know what’s what with our media, too many sourceless pieces Nadine Dories wrote about her experiences also her mother other 70 has it. I’ll tag the pics at the end as that’s behind a paywall They said 10,000 cases I’d double it tbh I went to the pharmacy for calpol Friday and they had it, no supermarket did. solution for older people is the return of the milk man, milk bread, eggs etc

Ok thanks for clarifying and top job you’re better at making it more understandable than official governments

Sorry is this icu admission?

I’d imagine army will be drafted to set up emergency field hospitals etc. Top work in this thread, do you do some kind of medical job a living?

This is why I think they’ve done it this way, you had a second wave and although the herd immunity argument isn’t settled they’re hoping to slow it as the peaks come in order to negate as much death as possible. Look at below pic of Spanish flu it came in waves it’s not popular but the reality is we’ve got a global flu pandemic it’s not about preventing it anymore it’s damage limitation. Our plan is like the above, Italy are probably at 80,000 -100,000 cases they just don’t know it yet. We will get there but it’s going to be about a fortnight I reckon. Just on Italy a work collegue has a brother out there who is an engineer for ferrari based out of Maranello and he said everyone has a chest infection by them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Northern Italy touches 1m cases by the end of April it’s just how quick / effectively they test. When we get to that point we will be on lock down no doubt about it

Well you can access it, I’ve no subscription for the telegraph and I’ve read it. Also it’s the Sunday edition a lot of the fuss seems to be late last night maybe that’s had an effect. Anyway found this video to explain our strategy, time will tell but at least it explains our strategy in an easy manner I’d saw claims the Ronaldo think was fake.

Yeah pretty much they present their plan. Still questions but they do indicate a lock down will come just not yet. also not behind a paywall https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/14/must-do-everything-power-protect-lives/

Opinion polls suggest it’s popular. Although opposition seems to be dividing along political lines. Many just raging because they don’t like Boris and want to score points. Stan there was a 45minute presentation on bbc 1. It’s your fault you’ve not watched it, not the governments

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200315_13/ you can get it again then it seems

They did say that further restrictions will come in the coming weeks as the curve trends up and we try to manage a peak I saw some twitter doctor saying it was because they are mindful of the Spanish flu. I’m on phone but uploaded a pic (bottom of this post) they’re worried about stop it to soon the second wave will be worse The did say banning and further restrictions were coming but it’s about timing, certain companies etc have forced their hands by doing it to early was my point. It is the uk governments plan to lock down but not yet as they want to manage infection in those less at risk. The vulnerable are being told to isolate All deaths within age of concern +70 with existing health issues Has nobody seriously watched Pandemic on Netflix? It was done 18 months ago and talks the viewer through what will happen with a major flu outbreak. a lot of death comes from Smaller hospitals in more rural areas where doctors have to look after a few thousand population and they have limited resources. Should we see a peak priority will be given to larger urban centres with higher population meaning that preventable deaths will occur. Also you will have poorer survival rates in other ailments because of strain on resources. That’s what our nhs are trying to avoid. I was talking to a friend who is a paramedic down in Cornwall and he said that it’s already a mess, since Thursday all shifts have been responding to cunts with the common cold. these people ring 111 and the phone monkeys for 111 aren’t clinically trained so they ask basic questions on a crib sheet like “do you have chest pains?” These people with colds say “yeah I’m a bit chesty” and procedure dictates and ambulance must go to them. The paramedics have to go in full whites. He said people will die because we can’t get to those more needy because we’re tied up with nonsense.

I think you’re over analysing the word “the”. If it doesn’t make sense it’s probably because I’m literally sat here policing two toddlers while tapping away at my phone. As far as I’m aware the mortality rate above 80s are approximately 15% percent obviously not all of the vulnerable die. It’s not proactive because in cancelling events goes against the plan in which is more of a managed infection so they can manage it. By cancelling events it’s affectively forcing their hand to go to Italy route.

As opposed to other world leaders that called it a hoax? there’s plenty to dig Boris out for, being honest and saying this is the chief medical officer and this is the chief science officer they’re going to explain the strategy I’m following their advice. But I have to be honest this is going to cause loved ones to die. His honesty and sensible decision to put his faith in medical and science experts Is a world away from that, he’s handled this issue well tbh. it’s also what I find bizarre here, it’s medical and scientific experts calling the shots, yet people are prepared to question it citing no scientific evidence in most cases. I’m aware there’s conflicting scientific evidence to say aspects of the plan are risky but I find the hang up on Boris’s terminology bizarre. My sister is a Corbynite she reckons “it’s heartless Tories” the most vulnerable to this are 70+ and they’re almost all tory voters, people are thick