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I still genuinely expect us to lose although us getting a 0-0 again wouldn't surprise me at all. We've managed to become hard to beat again but still don't see where a goal is going to come from against even a weakened City. Probably be a 1-0 or 2-0 for City. They'll be targeting this match as an opportunity to get back on track.

Man Utd's problem has been the same for about 7 years now. There are massive problems across the whole club that aren't a manager's job to fix. A lot of stuff had to be put in place for Man City and Liverpool to be able to compete consistently at the top of the table before Guardiola or Klopp got anywhere near those clubs. No managerial change is going to fix Man Utd.

Wow, James Justin for the 2nd Wolves goal .

Just watching the highlights on YouTube. Lisandro Martinez absolutely shits out of a challenge for Bournemouth's third goal. Proper disgraceful stuff. Amorim deserves a fair chance but you do wonder whether these manages that succeed in Europe just have no conception of what it's like to manage a beast of a club like Man Utd. This Rashford saga looks increasingly mad to me. He probably is a problem and he might even be the biggest individual problem in the squad but when you see some of the performances they keep turfing out there's no way you can convince me that singling Rashford out like this is going to be worthwhile. Just seen all the Spurs Liverpool goals as well. The way Spurs set up against a team like Liverpool at this level is nothing less than criminal I'm afraid.

We were convinced after our Liverpool-Arsenal-Chelsea-City run that we'd be in the relegation zone after four defeats. It's not pretty but to be fair to the manager and our team, 2 points with the other 2 still to play is already much better than we could have expected overall. The Man Utd result pisses me off even more as time passes. Bournemouth and Forest are better than us but not to the point where we should be getting turned over 4-0 at Old Trafford while they go there and win. It blows my mind the mental block we have with them. We've managed to get draws or wins off Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and City over the past few seasons yet every time we face Man Utd we let them turn us over 3-0 or 4-0. It's really pathetic from us.

He doesn't have any excuse not to be having a strong top four bid this season. He's competing against the worst Man City team since before they had oil money and a Man Utd team down in 13th. No excuse at all to not be clear of the likes of Forest and Bournemouth regardless of how impressive their over-performances have been this season so far.

Another solid weekend for us. I didn't see the game today but almost anyone in the league would take back to back draws with Arsenal and Chelsea let alone us in a relegation scrap. Slowly redeeming some of the damage done earlier in the season. I hoped for a draw between Leicester and Wolves but Leicester getting battered is almost as good for us. I actually think they're worse than Ipswich overall. They got some very fortunate results earlier in the season when Southampton and Ipswich got red cards against them and they've already cashed in their new manager bounce which seems to have worn off. Slowly feeling pretty comfortable that we should have enough this season.

I can't believe people defend Ange. They have good days and bad days but it doesn't matter if the net result is that they're bottom half when everyone has nearly played each other once.

No sympathy for the under 5 goals between Spurs and Liverpool .

Mainly because I gambled on Mbuemo as my FPL captain this week and I backed Brentford in the tipping game .

Typical Brentford fall through after I looked at doing a -1.0 Handicap on both Leeds and Burnley alongside the Fulham one.

Forest are starting to piss me off now. That team and manager have no business being anywhere up there. Reminds me of Leicester's title run where a team just hits a one in a thousand run of unbelievable momentum and everything falling for them for months on end.

Agreed

Best value I've found in the Premier League this weekend. Fulham shouldn't have any trouble dispatching Southampton and I rate Brentford of having better than a 50/50 chance of winning instead of losing to Forest given their home form. £10 > £29.70

I'm glad ultimately that we've avoided state ownership, any links to nasty regimes, and the most cynical versions of a multi club ownership model. Okay they own Roma but we'll see if that lasts... at least it's not the 777/City group nonsense where they own 12 clubs across the world and use them to skirt the financial rules. Couldn't really ask for much better to be honest. The new stadium has officially been handed over to the club today as well.

A galvanised Goodison after this week's news can always be dangerous. Chelsea's record at our place in recent years is terrible too. This game shouldn't be viewed as a write off for us. That said, the last time I thought that was Man Utd at home last season after the first points deduction and that resulted in us getting beat comfortably after getting a Puskas goal scored against us in the first 3 minutes. Everton got to Everton.

Almost didn't turn that on to watch the last half hour when I saw it was 3-0 .

Hadjar in at RB in likelihood.

@Dave I think there were already rumours a few months ago when this purchase was looking like a done deal, that it wouldn't be long before they then relinquished control of Roma. Despite some success, I don't think they've found Roma or Italian football a good fit. By the sounds of it, they've done their due diligence, they've got board members ready to go and already in place. I don't expect that we'll see much happen in the transfer market in January but the summer will be big. We have 12 outfield players out of contract beyond this season. We'll see what happens with Gueye, Doucoure, Young, Calvert-Lewin, Coleman and others who are all out of contract this summer. With how much work there is to do on the squad, I expect we'll see a couple of one-year given out to some of these. I don't expect to see them remove the manager until his contract expires in the summer either, unless it looks like we'll be relegated if they don't make a change. There's almost no chance Dyche will be the manager at the start of next season though. A few people have expressed concern on our behalf about how things have gone for Roma this season. I don't really read into it personal. It's not a "good" sign, but people need to remember what came before the Friedkins at Everton. The last 8 years have seen us get through managers on a yearly basis and sink from a club that was 3-4 games away from Champions League qualification in Martinez' first season to one that's been as little as one draw away from being in the Championship. We had two points deductions last season because of how we've been run, the stadium was funded in risky fashion and while you could call it unlucky that Usmanov's funding was pulled due to geopolitical events, it still wasn't a professional way to fund a capital project costing hundreds of millions of pounds. The club was days away from administration at points last season where, after everything else he'd done wrong, Moshiri opted for the 777 cowboys as the best people to try and give the stewardship of Everton too. But, somehow, we've survived it all. Bill Kenwright and Farhad Moshiri have driven Everton from a giant of English football, to a pretty respectable also-ran, and finally to a basket-case club that has been actively avoided by reputable managers, agents and players in recent years. As long as the Friedkins just do a sensible job, we should be able to get back to a comfortable mid-table position pretty quickly. The club should now be transformed financially with the debts cleared or re-structured by the end of the season as the costs of completing the stadium are replaced by the increased revenue and sponsorship deals that come with moving into it. They need to spend the next few months getting serious people in key roles behind the scenes. Survive the relegation scrap this season, do some decent business with the playing squad in the summer and it should be onwards and upwards. All I want really is to see this club do more than cling on for dear life during wave after wave of adversity and make a bit of progress in the right direction. I want to feel proud of the club again like I did when I was growing up, even if we weren't winning trophies we certainly weren't the absolute laughing stock we've been for the last decade. I don't think the majority of Everton fans expect much more than that but if any think that we'll be winning trophies or qualifying for Europe within 3 years then they'll be disappointed.

Halle. Fucking. Lujah.

Agree on Tsunoda but he's better prepared. If he goes to Red Bull and flops then nobody will be able to say they shouldn't have rushed him. With Lawson he's barely had time to develop and going to Red Bull to get crushed by Max is going to end his chance of any career at the elite level like it did for Gasly and Albon.

Red Bull really saw how it went with Gasly and Albon when they were promoted to the senior team too soon and decided fuck it, let's go for round three. This time they also achieve the bonus of telling Yuki Tsunoda he'll never get a seat at the top team.

I didn't watch the whole game but I saw the highlights and his defending for a couple of the goals was absolutely comedic. Reminded me of Michael Keane in the pits of a complete loss of confidence.

It does but I'm not too worried on that front at the moment. Wolves have surprised me and really changed the picture down there. I was expecting them to do what Palace have started to do but now I'd back us as 60-70% likely to finish ahead of each of Wolves, Leicester and Ipswich and we can afford to slip behind one of them. About a month ago I thought it was Southampton + 2 of Everton, Ipswich and Leicester. I always keep an eye on the relegation odds as well. We were at about 6/4 (40% chance) a little while ago and now we're at 7/2 (22% chance). Odds aren't everything but you comfort yourself with what you can .