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Sounds like Johnson has "surrendered" to most of the EU demands in his desperate bid not to be embarrassed into asking for an extension. DUP not yet on board but there appears to be an agreement between Johnson, Barnier and the Irish bloke. Unlikely to get through the Commons though methinks.

Last time we were in a 'relegation scrap' and we had these at home we won 4-0. However last season we lost 3-1. No result would really be a surprise here but from Silva's point of view it's about as close to a must-win game as a single league fixture can be this early in the season.

Desperate? He'll fit right in.

I'm not gonna lie, I'd take Benitez, he's obviously a class act, but you've got that problem again where an already jaded fanbase is going to jump on his back even earlier than they would with Koeman or Silva if things don't go great immediately.

I don't think that would ever be a go-er. Even someone like Hodgson who got called "Agent Hodgson" by our fans because he was so bad for them would be basically finished before they started at Everton because of that history.

I don't mind it too much, maybe because it's a welcome occasional break from having Everton ruin my weekends over the past 5 years. I enjoyed the Nations League as well. I think you struggle to get real momentum in International football. It's hard to care about what sort of form your team's in if it's been two months since they played. For England the qualifiers (so basically all non-tournament football) is a foregone conclusion as well. I imagine for fans of Wales, Scotland and other nations where qualification is always in the balance, that international football carries a bit more interest. I casually support England and I'm never really too bothered when they lose. I felt a bit disappointed when they lost the semi-finals in the World Cup and Nations League but nothing more than that, whereas I get full on angry when Everton lose a standard league fixture. There's no doubt that the England team are a lot more interesting and worth supporting now under Southgate than they have been at any other point in my lifetime, it's just hard to maintain that much passion for it when it's two easy wins every 6-10 weeks then back to the Premier League.

Saturday 19th October, 2019 Central Coast Mariners 2-0 Newcastle Jets, 09.30 Newport 1-1 Scunthorpe Rotherham 0-1 Oxford St Mirren 2-3 St Johnstone Atletico Madrid 2-1 Valencia Metz 1-1 Nantes, 19.00 Sunday 20th October, 2019 Melbourne City 2-0 Adelaide, 06.00 Alaves 1-1 Celta Vigo, 11.00 Philadelphia 0-2 New York Red Bulls, 20.00 Flamengo 0-1 Fluminense, 23.00

Were we seriously about to debate racism in England vs racism in Bulgaria? We have some serious cultural issues in this country right now, and I have no idea how Bulgarians act day-to-day, but if you take the fair comparison of football matches then I'm afraid it's ridiculous to compare England, where you get the odd handful of pissed bellends shouting "black cunt" at an opposition player, to Bulgaria where you've already got half the stadium closed down for previous misdemeanours and a match having to be stopped repeatedly because a group of what looked like at least 30 or 40 organised ultras with the full balaclava making nazi salutes in the crowd.

I'd be open to Howe though I have my doubts over him as a manager. I don't see why he wouldn't come. I don't know what else he thinks he can achieve at Bournemouth and he's not going to get offered a top 6 job at the moment, and he's a boyhood Everton fan. I'd prefer us to be a bit more ambitious than Eddie Howe if it's possible. There are weaknesses in that Bournemouth team that simply haven't been addressed over the past 3-4 seasons even if they overall package has been enough to keep them comfortably in the top flight for that time.

The protocol is spot on if it actually gets followed. It seems like they've bottled it tonight though.

You still have to give them due warning and opportunity to stop it. If nothing else it eliminates all doubt over whether they need sorting out and incriminates them further for ignoring the warnings.

Rumour is he has three games to save his job. I'm all against sacking him but you can't really expect more patience than that in modern football. It would be peak Everton for us to lose to Watford at home in the cup and that to be the final nail in his coffin. But yeah, I have more faith in this team than Koeman's mess. We didn't even have a formation back then. Sigurdsson was playing left mid with Rooney behind Niasse, Calvert-Lewin started the first game against Stoke at right wing back (no seriously), Schneiderlin was first choice alongside Gueye and we were playing Cuco Martina at left back after Baines got injured. Ashley Williams. Things aren't quite that dire these days even if the results make it look that way. We're bad but it's easy to forget just how dysfunctional that team was. Walcott and Tosun came in and actually markedly improved on what we had .

Fair point, we did at least have the decency to be not shite for the first two games before we Evertoned.

Devastating for Chelsea fans. Barkley having his one in ten here and he's doing it in the wrong shirt.

Disagree. That season if we'd played City at home we'd have been hit for 5 or 6. You can see at least the manager and players haven't given up yet like two years ago. This squad also has the makings of some quality in every position while under Koeman the only games we managed to get points were from Rooney penalties and calling on Tom Davies and Niasse to bail us out. Dan is right. We were worse off two years ago and we still finished 8th. I wouldn't expect the same again if we don't improve as Leicester, probably Wolves and West Ham at least would finish ahead of us.