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  1. That's the worst of it. Nobody can describe in a sentence what these rules are supposed to achieve or prevent.
  2. It's getting to that point. All three decisions so far have objectively been completely made up. They have no idea what they're doing. 10 points for Everton was absolutely incredible. Reducing it to 6 was still harsh but it at least gave them the opportunity to restore some credibility. I think Forest should be docked 8 points based on our punishment when you look at the size of the breaches. 6 would have been questionable looking at the numbers but not scandalous. Giving them less than us for a larger breach has just destroyed any credibility in this process that they might have won back. I fear that Everton as a football club don't have the backbone to do this but I think if they pursued proper legal action at this point you could see all of the punishments dished out over this period of time get nullified because of how inconsistent and amateurish the process has been at every turn. What's worse is that the Premier League explicitly said all along Everton gained no sporting advantage from their overspend. It was a technical breach. Forest have spent over £35m past the threshold and it's entirely down to player trading. Even if ours was from spending on players too, it would be absolute madness for them to get a smaller penalty for a charge twice as bad. The fact we've got 6 points for a £20m technical breach and they've got 4 for a £35m breach that's helped them on the pitch, I can't get my head around it.
  3. Even this is being generous when you account for their breach being almost twice as big as ours. It's mystifying.
  4. The last I'll say but this is the worst bit. If the entry point and scale of the breach add up to 6 points, and the scale of Forest's breach is significantly worse than ours, where the fuck did they get 10 or even 6 points from for us? Based on this, Everton should have had 5 for the smaller breach at most. Then when the appeal panel found that Everton had actually acted in good faith throughout, we should have got the same -2 or at least -1 for mitigation and cooperation and ended up with a 3/4 point penalty. And that's being harsh on us! 10 points (and remember they briefed that they wanted 12) should never even have been mentioned. Their breach is twice as big as ours in absolute terms and three times worse than ours in terms of by what percentage they breached their threshold of allowed losses. Their breach is also linked to spending on players whereas ours is largely linked to stadium expenses. I can't see any defence of this inconsistency by the Premier League at all. None of it adds up. You can't apply a formula like this to one club that explains how they've ended up at their final conclusion and then not apply it to another. In a court of law, if two people commit the same crime and get slightly different sentences then you can argue it doesn't affect Person A at all what sentence Person B got but that doesn't apply when you're implementing inconsistent competitive sanctions to two different clubs competing in the same league against each other. I sincerely hope that Everton are considering legal action over our first breach now. We've clearly accepted 6 points as the final penalty for our first breach on the understanding Forest would be getting at least the same (Everton will have known how extreme theirs is).
  5. After we lost to Man Utd we faced the prospect of Luton playing three times and Forest playing twice before the international break, and it looks like we'll actually be further from 18th than we were which is nice.
  6. Yeah I mean come on now. What the actual fuck is this? They gave us 10 points and reduced it to 6. Then Forest get 4 for a breach that's "77% worse than ours"? This whole thing stinks (again). They're making it up as they go along. It should be an absolute scandal that these points penalties are getting applied when there's no published formula for working out how much. Unless there's some seriously good mitigation from Forest then by this point I think Everton need to be considering legal action, even if we don't get a further points deduction. Look at this from LAST MONTH as well .
  7. Forest getting a smaller deduction than us seems like absolute horse shit for reasons I've already gone into. We need to be going all out to have our second breach thrown out entirely if this is the case.
  8. I think I'm settling on Over X Asian Corners as my favourite market after all the stuff I've played around with this season. Starting to make a consistent stream of profit on it now. There's loads of games to choose from which means you can find a good volume of decent bets, the odds are always a bit better on the Asian markets, and you can rely on stats a lot more for predicting corners than you can on match goals and results, because those can be quite easily disrupted by stuff like injuries and the relative importance of a fixture for each team. If you don't have the knowledge about those leagues you're going to lose out sometimes. I've had good and bad patches on it but corners are generally more reliable, and I'm equally successful in leagues like the Belgian second tier or the South American leagues as I am in the leagues I actually know stuff about. I've given up betting on Unders though as it isn't fun when every notification is bad news and for whatever reason, I just don't seem to have as much joy. The other stuff I'm having joy with is correct scores. Putting small stakes on three viable correct scorelines for a match is proving to be profitable for me as well over a decent period of time now. I'm dabbling in corner handicaps as well because again, nice Asian odds and sometimes the stats defy the bookies' odds nicely, but they're also a pain to follow if you've got a few running because they don't show up on "live now" on bet365 and you can get fucked over more easily by unusual results such as an underdog team who get quite a lot of corners taking an early lead and then sitting back. I'll probably still bet on Asian handicaps and goal lines because it's a bit of fun but it's much harder to be profitable with a stats-based approach because if you think you've found an edge over the bookies lines then there's probably a reason for their odds that you don't know about if it's a league you're not an expert in. I tend to win as many as I lose or maybe win slightly more often but because the odds are 1.7-1.9 most of the time that results in little or no profit. As for this thread, I've had an absolute nightmare overall. Feel like I've been really unlucky on a few occasions. The biggest lesson of all is bet on singles rather than doubles when you've only got one shot a week .
  9. Had 17 of these on as singles yesterday. Won 10, which isn't brilliant but is profitable. Naturally, both of the ones I posted in this thread were among my 7 losses .
  10. Some stats now that I have a minute. Spurs away matches tend to see plenty of corners. Last ten: 15, 11, 13, 14, 18, 10, 13, 21, 10. Fulham have averaged 12.2 corners over their last 10 league games. Should be plenty here although 11.5 is a high line to clear. Salernitana concede A LOT of corners and I wouldn't expect Lecce to dominate them in the way that the stronger Serie A sides do. However, you see a lot of match corners in similar fixtures for them against bottom half opposition. Some of their recent home games have had 14 (vs Frosinone), 13 (vs Cagliari), 10 (vs Genoa), 12 (vs Empoli), 18 (vs Monza). Lecce matches see plenty of corners as well. Their last 10 in the league: 13, 7, 10, 11, 4, 7, 10, 17, 20, 17. More confident on this one.
  11. If they get anything less than 6 points there'll be uproar from Everton. Their breach is supposed to be at least as large as our first one (if that's not true then I'll reassess) and their mitigation seems to be that they held out for more money for Brennan Johnson even though they knew they'd have to sell by June 30th for the sake of that financial deadline - not that I agree with this rule but that's what we had to do with Richarlison instead of bartering for more money to keep our heads above water the year before. I don't want to be a hypocrite on this but Everton had so many complications they couldn't have done anything about, alongside their incompetence, mainly the loss of loads of stadium funding due to the Ukraine war and sanctions on Usmanov. Forest threw so much money around last season that in the space of two transfer windows they signed more players than you can physically register in your squad. That's just mental and for me is a much worse offence as far as what these rules were supposedly designed to prevent. None of this changes the fact that I think these rules should be ripped up yesterday but under the framework we're working with here, Forest surely deserve at least as much of a punishment as Everton. After our appeal board ruled that it was inappropriate for us to get a larger points penalty than what you'd get for administration (9 points), I don't see how Forest will get anything over 8 if that but surely they can't get less than us.
  12. My algorithm has been spitting out some good winners on corners lately so going for this double.
  13. Results - Saudi Grand Prix Qualifying on Friday saw everybody take the safe, but correct route of a Max Verstappen pole position, setting everyone off on 5 points despite a decent challenge from Charles Leclerc. Before I go any further, I'll just clarify that anyone who had Sainz left in their final predictions saw him automatically replaced with Bearman. The race was more interesting as the "non-Verstappen" top three resulted in Sergio Perez in 1st ahead of Charles Leclerc and Oscar Piastri. @RandoEFC, @The Palace Fan and @Coma were the big winners here, getting two of the first three members of the "podium" exactly correct for 10 points. @MUFC wasn't far behind with Perez in the correct spot and Leclerc missing out by one place for 7 points. @Stan, @Tommy, @nudge, @DeadLinesman and @OrangeKhrush all scored 4 points with both Leclerc and Perez featuring in their top threes, but neither of them in the correct slot. @Whiskey was let down by Alonso and Russell and picks up just 2 points here for having Perez in his top three. Nobody had Oscar Piastri at all in their top three, so no points for anyone from him. On to this week's random driver, and we had a big hitter for the second week running in Charles Leclerc. @RandoEFC, @The Palace Fan and @Coma made further ground here with their prediction of 3rd matching up with their podium predictions and bagging them another 5 points. @Stan decided to hedge his bets with Leclerc's finishing position and where he missed out in the main podium prediction, he scores the full 5 points here as well. Everyone else was out by one position on either side, which is bad luck for them! Finally, nobody nailed the bonus question by predicting Haas to secure the highest finishing position outside of the "top five" teams. Alex Albon's 11th place was the highest out of the team's who saw any backing so @Tommy, @nudge and @OrangeKhrush collect an extra 2 points here for the best wrong answer. Here's what it does for the early standings: A middling week for @Tommy sees his lead slashed to 1 point as Saudi's 20-pointers @RandoEFC, @The Palace Fan and @Coma are hot on his heels. There isn't a lot of field spread anywhere at this early stage. This week's top scorers were Mercedes, and its enough to see @The Palace Fan and @MUFC rise to the top of the Constructors standings. A poor start for Ferrari, the lowest scorers in both weeks so far, sees them with work to do to catch up to the close pack of the other four teams.
  14. Results - Gameweek Four A boring week indeed as all of @Michael, @Tommy, @Lucas, @Stan and @Storts backed Barcelona ahead of their 1-0 win over Mallorca and progress through to Gameweek Five. Please see the fixtures below! Preview - Gameweek Five Below are the next set of fixtures and the last before the international break. Make sure you're not picking a team you've already used! Real Sociedad vs Cadiz Mallorca vs Granada Osasuna vs Real Madrid Getafe vs Girona Athletic Club vs Deportivo Alaves Sevilla vs Celta Vigo Las Palmas vs Almeria Villarreal vs Valencia Rayo Vallecano vs Real Betis Atletico Madrid vs Barcelona Good luck!
  15. That has to be a body blow for Luton. Don't care how much of an underdog you are or how much credit you get for playing bravely, surrendering a three goal lead on the road is absolutely criminal.
  16. Watch any Premier League game next weekend that doesn't involve Man City or Liverpool and you'll see ample evidence of how incompetent the officials are. I'm afraid you're peddling nothing short of a conspiracy theory here mate. If a bad decision against Liverpool is explained by this conflict of interest you're going on about then what's the explanation for every other bad decision that goes against a different team? The media angle is a bit odd as well to be honest. 10% of the discourse I saw about that Forest goal was from the media and 90% of it was Liverpool fans trying to "prove" there was nothing wrong with the goal. I also don't think officials give a fuck what gets said about them and not that many people are talking about these UAE trips. That's probably a better explanation as to why they've continued rather than the fact that there actually is a conflict of interest. I do agree that they should stop though.
  17. You keep talking about these accusations. I don't disagree that they're on dodgy ground. But you're stopping short of actually saying you think the reason they didn't give the second penalty there is because they're taking money from the UAE league. I suspect that's because you know that's not true. It's a poor reflection on the officiating in the league but that failure to award a penalty yesterday simply isn't out of the ordinary when you look at how many controversial decisions happen every weekend.
  18. I don't disagree with you but there is a gap between "they're leaving themselves open to accusations of a conflict of interest" and "they're going to stop getting money from UAE if they give decisions against City".
  19. There's not a legit reason. They just bottled it in my opinion.
  20. I'm sorry but are we seriously doing this again? I can't for the life of me understand how people see how many decisions, many of them obviously wrong, go for and against every team in the league every weekend and think that referees are in the pay of one team or another. Referees can't control the outcomes of matches lads. Why would somebody waste their time and money and risk paying off a set of officials to favour them in marginal calls when, if Luis Diaz puts one or two of his chances away for example, Liverpool win the match anyway? They definitely have their unconscious biases. Like I said originally, I'm sure the VAR and referee were reluctant to give Liverpool two penalties in one potentially title-deciding match, no matter how clear and obvious, because they know that that's all that people will talk about afterwards. The officiating in the league is consistently terrible and the way accountability works between the on-pitch referee and the VAR doesn't lend itself to correct outcomes being achieved. It's also not right that teams of officials are flying across to the Middle East or wherever to officiate a midweek game to make extra money when they've got a league depending on them to do their main job properly at the weekend. They're not getting paid off to favour one team or the other, though, I'm afraid. They're just not.
  21. I'm usually quite pessimistic but teams have peaks and troughs throughout a season. If you look at it objectively, it's unlikely that a team like Everton who were somewhere around the outer European spots throughout November and December are unlikely to end the season on a run of 2 wins in 20 or whatever it would take for us to perform badly enough to be below Luton and a points-deducted Forest. By the same measure, it's unlikely that an Everton team capable of an 11-game winless run were ever going to maintain that pre-Christmas form for a full season. I expect us to regress to the mean. As much as losing at home to Brentford, Forest, even Burnley or Sheffield United wouldn't shock me in the slightest with this lot, it also wouldn't shock me to see us go and shit-house a 1-0 win at Chelsea or Newcastle to "make up for it". We've been in much worse positions than we are now in the last two seasons and when push came to shove, they found enough to dig themselves out. Unfortunately, they also have a tendency to leave themselves absolutely no margin for error so I fully expect to go into Sheffield United at home knowing that a win probably gets us over the line even though the fixtures we have and capability of the squad is such that it shouldn't need to go that far.
  22. Prevailing knowledge seems to be that Everton will be docked 2 points for the second breach and Forest should be getting 6 taken off, possibly more. We're on a shambolic run of 11 games without a win. It sounds worse than it is to be fair. We picked up 5 draws in that time despite playing Man City twice, Spurs twice, Villa at home, Wolves away, Brighton away, Fulham away and Man Utd away. None of those are games that could go down as "expect to win". The problem is that we didn't take advantage of Palace at home just before they appointed a new manager, that we squandered a 1-0 lead against ten men in injury time at Brighton, and the capitulation at home to West Ham. Luton showed character to rescue a point at Palace but largely, I think their purple patch is over. I wouldn't rule them out in too many games but they also have a tough run-in. Forest should be getting hit with a penalty that'll put them about 6-7 points behind us. I was a little bit worried about their uptick in form when they changed manager but it seems to have fizzled out and I don't know if they've got it in them to claw back the points they're likely to get deducted. We've got Bournemouth and Luton away and Forest, Brentford, Burnley and Sheff Utd at home. I think it would take a pretty calamitous run-in for us to finish behind both Luton and Forest from where we're at. If we don't improve after this three-week break we have coming up, though, we'll be in serious trouble. It's when, not if, for Burnley and Sheffield United. Crystal Palace will be fine. That's a pretty nasty run-in for them after the next two games though. Brentford have a nicer run-in and they have a lot of those "maybe" games like Man Utd, Brighton, Fulham and Newcastle at home where you could quite easily catch those teams on a bad day and get a win that wouldn't necessarily go down as "expected". Both could have been in a proper scrap in a season without points deductions and the worst set of promoted sides we've seen in years but they've got enough this time around. I don't think either of them will get overtaken by any of Everton, Forest or Luton to be honest, let alone all three of them.
  23. Often find Klopp annoying in his interviews these days but fair play for calling out that Mike Dean and all the other ex-referees who get asked will make up an excuse or new unwritten rule for why the VAR decision not to award the penalty was actually correct.
  24. They probably give that as a penalty normally but there's subconscious bias against giving it when the team has already had one in the game and when it's likely to decide such a big game. Liverpool should have had a hatful in that second half. City really didn't seem at it.
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