Mpache

1 minute ago, The Palace Fan said:

@Mpache Given you've compared yourself to Claude when you're well aware of what he's gone though after being blocked by somebody on Twitter yesterday I suggest now is a good time to take a time out. You're on the verge of annoying a lot of people that are being impartial to this situation.

Because I'm alive.

If I were to commit suicide tomorrow, would you say the same? Jesus fucking christ.

Just now, Stan said:

I feel offended that you compare yourself or this situation to what happened to Claude and then have the audacity to dictate how you think we should react because you feel pissed off. 

The only reason I don't commit suicide is because I'm a chicken. That won't be me, and I look ahead in life as I know there's better to come. However, I've reached the point where I feel like a broken human. There's you misunderstanding me again.

People don't like to hear about suicide comments, and ridicule those comments until it actually happens and people start to regret lot.

Just now, Gunnersauraus said:

@Mpache I would suggest mate you ask people who you trust to ask what they think. You're attitude isnt a myth mate. Everyone can see that apart from you. I've defended you loads of times mate and I can see it.

I don't care about the before. I don't use my mental health in other moments as far as I remember.

We're talking about the now. I chose to be a dick to Tommy because he mocked my mental health, and I hate that against anyone. Not just myself.

Just now, Gunnersauraus said:

@Mpacheyou need to take a break from this forum. I saw the roll eyes post. It wasn't about mental health it was about your attitude. Everyone else in the forum  interpreted it that way you are the only person who thought it was an insult. Correct me if in wrong mate but doesn't  autism affect the way you interpret things? I have a friend with autism and she interpreted a lot of stuff the wrong way. I think you do the same mate . Literally no one on the forum interpretes things the way you do. 

My attitude is a myth.

I've been a dick here before, why am I being that now? Because of that.

If I was being a dick, I would have been rude to Cicero/Machado. Was I? No I don't think I was.

I don't care if every single member of the forum turns against me. Again, I could get my friends to make fun of you if you thought the earth was round.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Ok I’ll say one last thing. I think it’s offensive equating racism to mental health.

Mental health issues can be worked through and cured. Whereas you are born with your race, it’s not something to “cure” and it’s offensive to people who aren’t white to insinuate that their race needs to be cured.

Can they?

Most of my mental health issues can stem from my autism which makes me more naive. Last time I checked, autism can't be cured.

Just now, Gunnersauraus said:

@MpacheI haven't seen anything to suggest @Tommy is bully. The problem is your posts come across as very me me me everybody feel sorry for me. I have every sympathy for you but mental health does not excuse bad behaviour. It doesn't help but it doesn't excuse it. Also mate you are constantly arguing on here again. Admtidly it isnt always your fault but other times it is. And no one else on this forum gets into as many arguments as you 

Then you haven't looked enough. Go into the "We need to talk" thread and see the difference between Cicero/Machado and Tommy.

I don't care if I took it out of context. It was a genuine plea for some advice, and instead I get a gif of someone rolling his eyes ffs.

I better not see someone on this forum lamenting a suicide death ever again, like they did with Claude. It's hypocritical to the death.

The first step to understanding mental health, is to not mock it. To understand when someone is going through hardships and not having a go at them.

Just now, Bluewolf said:

Agree with Whiskey on this one @Mpache

Take a break for a bit.. Sticking with it trying to fight your corner is just going to leave you feeling more frustrated and that can't be doing you any favours.. Just take a bit of a time out

Yes, Whiskey is 100% right. I'm going in circles with people who would rather defend their friend than admit they are wrong. It's essentially fighting a losing battle. Then they try to tell me mental health awareness is good in modern society.

Just now, Stan said:

Give over.

I meant in regards to your mental health. Weren't you wanting help with that yesterday? 

The first lines of the 2 paragraphs contradict each other. 

I'm done trying to help you. Tried to ask you lots of times what you want, what you need help with, how we can help. Yet you go back to going against @Tommy.

You have a bigger vendetta against him than you think he does against you. No one has bullied you ffs. 

I did want help with that yesterday, and I was going to talk to Cicero and Machado who were being genuine.

Tommy's post was mocking mental health, which he has done time and time again.

That's the thing that gets me, and that goes for anyone. Not just on this forum. Mocking mental health is as bad as racism, xenophobia, sexism and homophobia. It's not considered that yet in this society, but sooner or later it will. Because it encourages suicide.

2 minutes ago, Whiskey said:

It might be for the best that you take a break from here, for a week or so @Mpache? The forum is clearly making your irate/depressed judging by your posts from yesterday and today so it might be worth just taking a time and putting your mind to better use elsewhere. Head to the recording booth and start work on a new track? Get into seismology ahead of your college course? Start a scouting project? I just think that going round and round in circles isn't doing you any good mate, you don't need to leave forever or request to be banned - just log off and come back in a week or two. 

Could be a good idea, I have a few tracks I'm working on.

I'll see how I feel after this whole conundrum is finished. I'm really just waiting for the University applications to open up.

Tommy posted this in the mental health thread in reply to my problems.

So much for "he's not mocking your mental health bla bla bla"

https://talkfootball365.com/topic/527-mental-health/?do=findComment&comment=387019

Just now, Stan said:

What do you want from us Brian? Like, what are you really looking for? Reassurance? Actual help? Actual professional advice? 

Get over what Tommy did or didn't do (not indirectly admitting anything). Stop deflecting from the real issue because it definitely isn't what someone says on a football forum. 

I want Tommy to be reprimanded and want mocking mental health to be taken as seriously as racism, because they are just as bad as each other.

Tommy can poke fun at me if he wants, I don't really care. I only care if I post something whether it's in a mental health thread or a newly created one and he decides to post something to have a go at it. 

One thing is regular bullying which I'm going to have to learn to deal with, but when it comes to my mental health being mocked, that's a whole different ball game. Not that either is OK, but the latter is a much more serious and punishable issue.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He posted an eye roll reaction gif because a thread that was started under the guise of being a mental health thread (which we have already) looked like it was being started so it could be a pity party thread (which, by the way that sort of state of mind is not going to help with your mental state or anyone else’s).

It’s not rocket science.

No he didn't, and even if it was, that's still misunderstanding depression and mental health.

Tommy said this

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That was my reaction because I knew it would eventually turn into another one of your "me me me me me me" topics. 

And I posted above how attention seeking is caused by mental disorder. Clear proof and you choose to ignore it to have your way.

Want to know why I wanted the thread locked? Because I regretted making that post, which clearly shows I wanted to let off steam and was frustrated, which has happened to me a million times before. I felt bad that I let my own mental health defeat me there, which is a symptom of me not doing so well.

The fact Tommy mocked it and Cicero/Machado who have mocked me many times before both wanted to help, tells you all you need to know.

Seriously, I've presented scientific proof, told you the difference between someone wanting to help and someone who is trying to be funny, and you still deny it. There is nothing you can do to convince me otherwise. Nothing. Give over, and don't try to cherry pick arguments to defend Tommy when he is clearly in the wrong.

Just now, Stan said:

Again, stop focusing on what Tommy did and focus on the rest of the posts people made to try and help you. 

You recognised it in my post earlier and it's all you're speaking about now. 

I know it might not be easy but please try and get over it. You're deflecting away from all the issues at hand when you mention Tommy, staff posting in a thread, racism similarities etc... Either get to the point or let it go. 

That's like discriminating a black person with 2 others trying to help and then being told to get over it.

I agreed with you because you made a genuine post to help and admitted you aren't MH experts.

However, that doesn't mean Tommy did not mock my mental health and you are indirectly admitting it. This is the only place in the world where you'd defend your friend in order to try and hide his mistakes.

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

He didn’t mock your mental health though, you’re just grasping at straws because you don’t want to admit you’re wrong for some reason.

He did, you literally just said "people tried to talk with you". A gif of someone rolling his eyes isn't "someone trying to talk to me". Cicero, Machado were being genuine, Tommy wasn't. End of.

If Tommy said the N word, you would say he wasn't being racist. That's the point we've gotten to now. Stop denying it, it's pathetic. I showed a few people the conversation and they all agreed it was mocking my mental health.

13 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

How were you not being a dick? You made a thread called “we need to talk” and when people genuinely tried to talk with you... you closed them out - requested the thread closed, then came on here to accuse the staff of being your enemies!

Ok, no. I said I was doing something, and said I would "properly reply in a bit". I was being a dick to Tommy who was mocking my mental health. Don't even try to twist things. 

14 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You’ve even been able to use this thread as a platform to get your say in. If we were enemies we’d just ban you and never have to deal with this shite again.

I used this thread because the staff were trying to fuel their opinion even after it was locked. Which you shouldn't do. When it's locked, it means just leave it. God its not rocket science.

Regarding the racism comments, I am saying it's the same as mocking mental health. Racist comments encourage discrimination. Mocking mental health encourages suicide. Seriously, just admit you are all wrong and walk away. You're literally twisting arguments now to have your way.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don’t understand your position. You’ve taken me saying mental health is NOT an excuse for behaving like a dick. Then taken offense to that saying I’m saying mental health is just an excuse...

... and then saying some behaviors are excused because they’re a symptom of mental health.

So what, now you expect us to walk on eggshells when we post on here because you might be having a bad day?

Why do you think I behave "like a dick"?

When you have your mental health mocked, as tiring as it gets, what am I supposed to do? 

What I want is a bit more empathy when I make a post like that thread yesterday. The thread was fine until Tommy did his usual thing. Seriously, I get he's your friend but there's no defending what he did. He could be a racist and you'd still defend him. It's beyond a joke at this point.

I agree that I need real professional help, but letting off a bit of steam can happen and that IS a symptom of bad mental health.

8 hours ago, Stan said:

I also think the best place to look for help probably isn't an Internet football forum. I 100% agree with @Dr. Gonzo that it's great you've had the confidence and ability to open up to us, but unless we truly know the issues you are facing with the whole context, and the fact we aren't MH professionals, means we probably can't give you the answers you want or need.

@Dr. Gonzo raised some good points in both posts and in both, you've gone straight in to the 'I can't believe you're defending @Tommy' viewpoint. Firstly not what he was doing and secondly, you've skipped over all the good stuff to focus on one other thing. 

Whether you like hearing it or not I think you should seek professional help as that seriously will be the best place for you to improve your MH and resolve the issues you have. 

Finally a good post which I agree with. 

However, it doesn't save the whole "mental health is an excuse" rhetoric which is the kind of comment that people say to manipulate an argument. Again, that just shows a lack of understanding. There is no proof you can present to me to show otherwise. It's a symptom of mental health, end of.

Anyways, I feel a bit better today. Needed a long nights sleep.

If you’re seriously defending Tommy when he clearly mocked my mental health for like the 15th million time, then it’s best to ban me for the good of everyone. 

the fact mental health is seen as an “excuse” in any scenarios is why suicides continue to happen to a massive rate, and then people lament it for a day before doing their usual thing again.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don’t think anyone on here has mocked anyone else on here for having mental health issues. Mocking people’s behavior is a different thing entirely, imo. 

 

I appreciate your post, but this above is bollocks. Behaviour can be impacted by mental health. I was blamed for playing the "me me me" or attention seeking card, which IS a symptom of depression.

https://www.bridgestorecovery.com/blog/look-at-me-attention-seeking-behavior-as-a-symptom-of-psychological-distress/

Also caused by loneliness, which I do go through especially in these times.

Stop defending Tommy, he mocked my mental health and has done it again and again and again.

If you use racist slurs and then say "you took it out of context" does that make it OK?

1 hour ago, Tommy said:

I never once mocked your mental health. Maybe your behaviour that shouldn't be excused by mental health issues. 

You should make it more regular, because it's obvious even from an outsider point of view that you need it badly. 

I don't blame poor behaviour on mental health, I do blame it on paranoia and naivety though.

The fact you're still denying the fact you mocked my mental health (on more than one occasion) is worrying.

1 minute ago, Tommy said:

Nobody is an "enemy" on here dude. And I never mocked your mental health? Mental health issues are not an excuse for being a self-centered dick btw. 

Are you seeing a psychiatrist? 

You WERE mocking my mental health, don’t sugarcoat it. Just accept your mistake and don’t do it again. If I’m pulling the me card with a sympathy thread it probably means I’m at a low point.

And yes, but not as regularly as I would like.

2 minutes ago, Tommy said:

You sound paranoid as fuck. Do you only see black and white? Everyone who disagrees with you is automatically an enemy? You responded to me with wrong assumptions and I just wanted to clarify things. 

1. I am paranoid

2. you’re not disagreeing, you have mocked my mental health time and time again, resorting to the “you are saying me a lot” card failing to realize that’s a symptom of depression.

3. I am sick of enemies in general. Sometimes they make themselves, especially with how naive I am. 

You point out that I don’t “practice what I preach” but half the time you mock my mental health you’re just pushing someone off the edge further. I don’t care if it’s real life or a forum. I don’t want to come on here and be reminded of real life.

@Staff when a topic is locked, that means you shouldn't post any further, it doesn't matter how much you want to fuel your blinded hate even further.

Grow the fuck up. I'm honestly sick of enemies.

A York United player said this to me