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@Dave @Devil-Dick Willie have either of you ever been to an independent show where they have had a ladder match before. I'm hoping to go to one in a couple of weeks. I'm really looking forward to it because it will be close up. I'm not sure what to expect. Obviously the stuff they do in aew and wwe can be extremely dangerous if not done right and I'm not sure if wrestlers on the independent scene will be good enough to do some of those moves but it should be really good. I know dani luna is in one, Leon slater may be in another one. 

In my experience the atmosphere in aew and wwe is nothing compared to independent shows. 

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