R Kelly

[Claret and Blue]

Sent to prison for 30 years for abusing children. Shame they can't hang these bastards.. 

 

Dirty pedophile cunt. Where did money, arrogance and fame get you.. 

 

Got exposed bigtime. Well done to them who stepped up and spoke out against him.. 

[Stan]

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Is it just me... or does it seem like it's not enough time given the crimes he's committed?

Same with the Ghislane Maxwell case - I can't get my head around how she got a lesser sentence... because I think if you consider everything in totality... her crimes are arguably worse (they're both horrible people). Decades of grooming young girls to be prostituted out to the most rich and powerful predators in the Western world... That's decades of sex trafficking young girls and then pimping them out to people who absolutely know better - that's why they're doing it away from their justice systems and on a private island.

There should be more consequences for taking women from their families and homes and bringing them to a life of sex slavery and abuse. 20 and 30 years is a long time. But it's not long enough and it doesn't really feel like justice for the physical and mental abuse these girls have been put through.

[Claret and Blue]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is it just me... or does it seem like it's not enough time given the crimes he's committed?

Same with the Ghislane Maxwell case - I can't get my head around how she got a lesser sentence... because I think if you consider everything in totality... her crimes are arguably worse (they're both horrible people). Decades of grooming young girls to be prostituted out to the most rich and powerful predators in the Western world... That's decades of sex trafficking young girls and then pimping them out to people who absolutely know better - that's why they're doing it away from their justice systems and on a private island.

There should be more consequences for taking women from their families and homes and bringing them to a life of sex slavery and abuse. 20 and 30 years is a long time. But it's not long enough and it doesn't really feel like justice for the physical and mental abuse these girls have been put through.

I agree it isn't enough in an ideal world anybody who abuses kids should be executed fuck sending them to prison and tax payers spending millions to keep them there. 

 

Next best thing would be to prison them for life. 

 

Hopefully hangs himself or somebody beats the cunt to death 

[Spike]

Technically he isn't a paedo, he is an ephebophile. Just as bad but slightly different. The only reason I mention that is because I was unaware of the difference till recently.

[Claret and Blue]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

Technically he isn't a paedo, he is an ephebophile. Just as bad but slightly different. The only reason I mention that is because I was unaware of the difference till recently.

He abused kids. >pedophile there's no technically about it. So for once in your life you are wrong 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

I agree it isn't enough in an ideal world anybody who abuses kids should be executed fuck sending them to prison and tax payers spending millions to keep them there. 

 

Next best thing would be to prison them for life. 

 

Hopefully hangs himself or somebody beats the cunt to death 

I think the US needs to re-examine it's sentencing laws for sex crimes where the victims are all (or overwhelmingly, in R Kelley's case) are children. I know of a case where someone married a single-mother with a kid, seemingly because he had the intention of sexually abusing this kid. And there was evidence presented that the mother herself was involved and encouraged the sexual abuse. He fucked the kid and even made videos of it which he distributed to pedos in a child porn distribution ring. It happened for over a year. The video sharers were eventually busted, which led to his eventual arrest and prosecution (which is a good thing)...

but the story is seriously disturbing...

And he only got 5 years. The mother got nothing (she wasn't even charged, despite the evidence).

These sentences are out-of-touch with the severity of the crimes these people are comiting, or are archaic remnants from a more disturbing time period. Either way... I don't see why such lenience is given to people like this.

[Claret and Blue]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I think the US needs to re-examine it's sentencing laws for sex crimes where the victims are all (or overwhelmingly, in R Kelley's case) are children. I know of a case where someone married a single-mother with a kid, seemingly because he had the intention of sexually abusing this kid. And there was evidence presented that the mother herself was involved and encouraged the sexual abuse. He fucked the kid and even made videos of it which he distributed to pedos in a child porn distribution ring. It happened for over a year. The video sharers were eventually busted, which led to his eventual arrest and prosecution (which is a good thing)...

but the story is seriously disturbing...

And he only got 5 years. The mother got nothing (she wasn't even charged, despite the evidence).

These sentences are out-of-touch with the severity of the crimes these people are comiting, or are archaic remnants from a more disturbing time period. Either way... I don't see why such lenience is given to people like this.

Not only America but here too. Look at them grooming gangs in rochdale got next to nothing 

 

 

Government said they'd be deported now they've backtracked on it and walking about Rochdale and 1 of their victims spotted him in local asda 

 

There's no rehabilitation for pedophiles. Like some seem to think 

[Spike]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

He abused kids. >pedophile there's no technically about it. So for once in your life you are wrong 

No, not really. Paedophilia refers to prepubescence, ephebophilia refers to pubescent teenagers. I think the youngest was 14? Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Spike said:

No, not really. Paedophilia refers to prepubescence, ephebophilia refers to pubescent teenagers. I think the youngest was 14? Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?

He abused under age kids. That makes him a pedophile stand in front a parent and say that you'd have no jaw left 

[Claret and Blue]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

No, not really. Paedophilia refers to prepubescence, ephebophilia refers to pubescent teenagers. I think the youngest was 14? Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?

Your defending a pedophile all in the fact you want to be proven right. Says everything about you. 

[Spike]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

Your defending a pedophile all in the fact you want to be proven right. Says everything about you. 

Where did I defend R Kelly, you stupid cunt?

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Spike said:

Where did I defend R Kelly, you stupid cunt?

Saying he isn't a pedophile. That's defending him. He's a nonce. Clear and simple. Like I said wise guy go down pub and come out with that bull shit then come back and let me know which part of your jaw somebody took off. 

 

Aww getting all abusive but hey that he OK because your in the click. Brave little solider aren't you 

[Spike]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

Saying he isn't a pedophile. That's defending him. He's a nonce. Clear and simple. Like I said wise guy go down pub and come out with that bull shit then come back and let me know which part of your jaw somebody took off. 

 

Aww getting all abusive but hey that he OK because your in the click. Brave little solider aren't you 

Sorry mate, misunderstanding I sent you a PM.

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Spike said:

Sorry mate, misunderstanding I sent you a PM.

I'm on mobile. Anything you've got to say say it here. I'm a man I couldn't care less about pm 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

Saying he isn't a pedophile. That's defending him. He's a nonce. Clear and simple. Like I said wise guy go down pub and come out with that bull shit then come back and let me know which part of your jaw somebody took off. 

 

Aww getting all abusive but hey that he OK because your in the click. Brave little solider aren't you 

He didn't defend him, he said he's not a pedo but a... something I've never heard of... but it just sounds like a different flavour of nonce to me. He even says "it's just as bad."

It's a technical distinction tbh, I'm not sure the "scientific" term for a type of nonce really matters when in idiom we just call them pedos. Imo, I'm just going to call all types of this noncey behavior pedos just because I've spent my whole life saying it.

Also why are you trying to kick off with almost everyone on here?  Chill out, we're all friends on here pal.

[Spike]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

I'm on mobile. Anything you've got to say say it here. I'm a man I couldn't care less about pm 

Use your mobile to call me at 867-5309

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Spike said:

Use your mobile to call me at 867-5309

Don't think so son. Like I said you got anything to say. Say it here.. 

[Claret and Blue]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He didn't defend him, he said he's not a pedo but a... something I've never heard of... but it just sounds like a different flavour of nonce to me. He even says "it's just as bad."

It's a technical distinction tbh, I'm not sure the "scientific" term for a type of nonce really matters when in idiom we just call them pedos. Imo, I'm just going to call all types of this noncey behavior pedos just because I've spent my whole life saying it.

Also why are you trying to kick off with almost everyone on here?  Chill out, we're all friends on here pal.

He said he wasn't a pedophile. 

[Spike]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

He didn't defend him, he said he's not a pedo but a... something I've never heard of... but it just sounds like a different flavour of nonce to me. He even says "it's just as bad."

It's a technical distinction tbh, I'm not sure the "scientific" term for a type of nonce really matters when in idiom we just call them pedos. Imo, I'm just going to call all types of this noncey behavior pedos just because I've spent my whole life saying it.

Also why are you trying to kick off with almost everyone on here?  Chill out, we're all friends on here pal.

I think it is mainly for differentiation in cases like an 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old, because under a rigid definition that'd be classed as paedophilia. It is markedly different to let's say an 18 year old to a 7 year old.

[Spike]

1 minute ago, Claret and Blue said:

Don't think so son. Like I said you got anything to say. Say it here.. 

But I said my fill, you are stupid and you are a cunt. What more needs to be said?

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Spike said:

I think it is mainly for differentiation in cases like an 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old, because under a rigid definition that'd be classed as paedophilia. It is markedly different to let's say an 18 year old to a 7 year old.

Under age means pedophile simple as that. Where's the misunderstanding 

[Claret and Blue]

Just now, Spike said:

But I said my fill, you are stupid and you are a cunt. What more needs to be said?

Why you wanting me to phone you are you planning to say it face to face or something. Because if you are I will happily send you my address 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

He said he wasn't a pedophile. 

Cos he's learned that there's a distinction between pedos and ephebos(?) recently. So technically under the definition of the word, he's not a pedo. He's still a nonce though, which is pretty clear @Spike thinks that because he's said "it's just as bad"

I'd never heard of the other type of nonce and imo they're all the same, regardless of the different names that technically exist, and I'm sure @Spike feels the same way... considering he's said "it's just as bad" - he's just teaching us a new word.

I'm probably going to not use that new word ever ... but if you're trying to say he's defending noncing... I think you need to go back and read the post probably.

[Spike]

Just now, Claret and Blue said:

Under age means pedophile simple as that. Where's the misunderstanding 

Two 15 year old having sex would make them both paedophiles fuck sake man