Dr. Gonzo

Trump's declaring a national emergency.

Most of the new cases in China lately have come in through people coming into China. I know a city that’s been in lockdown for a month was due to return back to normal after a week of no transmission. Then someone came back into the town (not sure how that works with the lockdown mind you). They recently went to Italy and when they entered they tested positive. Now the lockdown will end 2 weeks from Monday.

Italian doctors are reporting success in treating it with arthritis medication.

I think that fluid includes droplets from coughs and shite like that, rather than French kissing or anything. I don't think the 50 cases in New York that all stemmed from one lawyers office involved 50 people swapping fluids with their lawyer, most likely the lawyer felt he had a cold so he covered his mouth while he coughed and sneezed - but still shook his clients hands. Seems like common sense to me to avoid large gatherings of people right now. The long incubation period means people can be carrying the virus and not show any signs at all, while passing it on. And so many people who've had the "it's just a cold/flu" mentality or the "I'm young, fuck it it won't affect me" are going to lead to having it pass on. Italy didn't really take it seriously until too late, but in China and South Korea we've seen 2 very different methods at containment show signs of success. South Korea's done it through government transparency and people listening to the rules that have been imposed on them and taking it seriously; China's done it by just being authoritarian AF. Neither of those I can really see happening in the West unfortunately. I think it's mostly up to us as individuals, rather than hoping our governments will step in to help us, to slow the spread of this disease, given our culture. But unfortunately, given our culture... I'd also say it's unlikely that most people will be willing to follow medical advice and back out of social events planned. I think we should be looking at Italy and learning from their mistakes. I do think it's pretty worrying for the US that the mortality rate is about double the next highest country. Granted the stats might be skewed that one of the first places it showed up in the US was an elderly care facility.

Do you have an N95 respirator mask? Or are you able to get one? If you had one of those + wash your hands as much as you can anytime you touch anything at the airport or on the plane, you'd be relatively safe (obviously not as safe as not going to the airport).

Yeah I know fuck all about Welsh or Scottish politics tbh. That thread could be a good idea from an educational standpoint from my perspective.

Tbh, I think it's pretty mental we had our CL match with a packed Anfield considering the news. It's even more mental to keep things going ahead as though things are fine when we need the government to be stepping in to make sure that people aren't going to be spread the virus unknowingly. So I think Vaughan Gething's being really reckless and/or incompetent with this.

Don't worry we won't ban you for making health and safety suggestions regarding coronavirus

That'd certainly be an effective way of getting those bog rolls from the selfish cunts who're hoarding them all.

The band with Pete Townsend & Roger Daltry.

I think it’s because heat is supposed to “kill” this virus. So I think that’s why a lot of people are expecting it to die down late Spring and in the Summer. I think people are expecting it to strike back though because it’s still a new virus & it’s still got no vaccine. So if it does make a return with some mutations in the winter, I think that’s got people fearing the worst. I think it’s good to plan for awful situations because even if they don’t come up, you’re probably ready for the next awful situation that comes up. So even if this does die down as we reach hotter months, I think it’s still a good idea to expect it to come back.

I noticed people being racist to Chinese people here the moment the news about it spreading in China came out, I’m sure it will leave an effect At the same time maybe not. I’m pretty sure the Chinese government is paying for media pieces for the virus not to commonly be called the Wuhan Virus & urging people to avoid this term as its racist. But where the fuck did the Ebola virus come from? A place called Ebola, right?

I think it’s a bit funny that whenever people think of society crumbling the first thought is “how will I wipe my arse?!”

Filthy casuals...

I think it’ll be similar to the Spanish Flu. Which I think means that we’ll see the disease start to fade for a few months before we see it come back with an extra deadly wave. We’re already seeing how fragile the global economy is with the virus’s spread.

Oh if the CDC says anything that conflicts with what your state’s officials are telling you, who’s advice do we go with?

Interesting how places where I think the competence of the government is questionable at best seems to have coronavirus spreading amongst the people in that government. We've got 4 Congressmen (and the President lol) reportedly exposed to the virus. We've got BoJo's government and this health minister getting infected... and we've got Iran (a government I never expected to really see compared with the US and UK in terms of competence, because Iran's government has always been incompetent since the Shah was put in power by the West) having 8% of MPs infected. Wonder if there's a correlation between incompetent governments and seeing people elected to lead people through health crises like this getting infected and being a part of the crisis.

Yeah, that's true - that's why it's important not to touch your face. But washing your hands constantly is a must right now.

Glad it's not just me then

Washing your hands constantly is the easy part. You know what I've learned pretty recently after trying to make sure I don't get the virus or spread the virus... I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TOUCHING MY FACE, I TOUCH MY FACE ALL THE TIME WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT AND THEN CATCH MY HAND ON MY FACE AND THINK 'AW FUCK I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.' It's ridiculous, I never knew how much I put my hands on my face.

Wikipedia'd his grandfather. Learned that the Trump family started their real estate empire by running brothels. Thought it was fitting. Also now I think Germany owes the world big time for banishing Freidrich Drumpf for being a draft-dodger, making him remain in America and eventually his grandson would be probably the most powerful man in the world and mismanaging a superpower's response to a global health crisis.

Yeah unless you looked at the total number of confirmed cases and then saw that China's number blows Italy well the fuck out of the water

What's shifted? The rate at which it's spreading? Again, it's probably because China very quickly took more extreme measures to contain the virus (although I think extending the Lunar New Year holiday led to loads of people traveling and spreading the virus) - and because they had to, considering how it's China and Wuhan, a city of 10m +, isn't really considered to be that big of a city. But they've been taking containment of the virus very seriously since the first week of the outbreak reaching international news (shame they didn't take it more seriously in December, when that doctor warned the government & was silenced - RIP guy who tried to warn us about the disease). There's a lot of ways where you could argue Italy's response may have made things worse. Taking people's temperatures when they arrived at airports created a false sense of security, because so many people carried and spread the infection while they weren't showing symptoms. Banning flights from China was a bit weird, because what they should have really been doing is banning people who'd recently been to affected areas like Wuhan - many Chinese people found their way into Italy after the China air travel ban by just changing flights elsewhere in the EU and then ending up in Italy. And Italy didn't have a shared protocol for how to deal with the virus at first - so different areas were doing different things to stop the spread to different regions in Italy. Now the government is stating that a universal protocol needs to be followed. Honestly the worst person I'd want in charge of a health crisis is Trump. The man can't form a fucking coherent sentence, yet I'm supposed to trust he's going to see this crisis through. A close second person I wouldn't want would be Mike Pence based off his handling of AIDS in Indiana (he caused an AIDS epidemic in his home state). I especially worry that it'll clear up as temperatures rise in our hemisphere in late Spring/Summer. And people will forget all about it. And then like the Spanish Flu, there will be a second wave once temperatures start to cool. And that second wave will be much more devastating than the first if it follows the trend of the Spanish flu. But that's just paranoia. Having said that, the paranoia's got me assuming everyone I see is a disease ridden fucker that needs to get the fuck away from me. So wash your hands everyone & don't touch your face.

VW stopped selling Diesels in America

I don't understand why they'd hire Mourinho after a pretty disastrous start to the season, then sack him after he's taken this squad that has looked lost since day one of the season... while he's also dealing with an injury crisis. That would just be an expensive way to waste money and for Spurs to show they can go through two good managers in the period of 1 season if their squad doesn't seem ready or up for the fight of a long difficult season. Don't see the point in that - especially if they're not going to give him time to really transform the squad a bit.