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Industries turn to government when they need help. They work closely with DEFRA. It would be DEFRA's responsibility to put to the Prime Minister any requirements or help they need from his powers which DEFRA can't handle. Prime Ministers typically wouldn't do an interview unless they are told the topic of conversation first. If Johnson knew that topic was coming up and still winged it like that it would be saying a lot about how he treats his position and the interviews.

No they won't do it, but that doesn't make it worthless. Activists have a role to play within our political system even if they are in denial about what that is. There's a pendulum in which on one side is the activist bringing a topic to attention of the public and gaining support for it, on the other side is the activist making the topic seem that of cranks, hippies and lunatics. That is where the activist must be careful within this political system, what they all know is that in reality they need to completely overthrow the system to truly get what they want. The Labour Party have already put a figure on how much £ to dedicate to this issue as a result of this topic becoming prominent. Public support for action is growing. The incumbent governments policies so far have failed and in order to sustain their power they will have to address the topic to some extent. Ultimately in the end the activist does not get what they want but they can and often do cause positive change. Long term disruption however risks that pendulum swinging to the hippy crank side. The topic of interest to the public will shift from insulation to how to stop the disruption. A government who can get them to stop will likely get approval rating rewards for it. My main fear, within this system, is that unlike the US and to some extent Australia and Canada right now, mainstream anti-climate positions are non existent and anti-climate is the crank position still, but activists moves risk feeding those cranks if they are not careful. I understand that however on climate it is impossible not to be a hypocrit in some aspect of life. You can make many changes and many decisions but there will always be something that someone finds to wave at you. On housing insulation, at current market prices you're looking at maybe £10-35k per house. So on that subject we are simply not going to make the changes to this countries housing stock without the government's help. Policies so far on this matter have flopped.

In British history and culture though? It's very rare for a protest to directly lead to the action the protest is asking for from the government. Typically it is at local council or business level that protests may work. At national level, most of the time action is the result of threat to government power and that threat to power usually comes from public opinion. The British public are overwhelmingly averse to disruptive means even when they might support the cause, examples in this thread may well be Stan and Deadlinesman. The danger with all prolonged disruption is attention shifts from a growth of public opinion for the wider cause to a growth in demand and support for an authority bringing an end to the disruption. As seen with Margaret Thatcher coming to power and staying in power. I don't think that matters. It doesn't have have be a zero sum game. The protesters are asking for the government to immediately refurbish everyone's house in the country. The savings from which would far outstrip the additional emissions from 45 minutes of traffic. Why does it matter that he hasn't insulated his own property? The protest is asking for the government to pay for it for him.

The only use of a disruptive protest is to raise awareness for an issue. Once that is raised the disruption has no benefit and may start to have the opposite effect.

I agree to an extent but what you have to remember with Bruce is he has pissed fans off with the things he says. He winds the fans up. Interestingly a lot of the same stuff he said at Villa and Sunderland that made him hated there. When you combine that with not getting the best out of the team you've got a toxic mix. A toxic atmosphere.

The decision of the takeover is in a separate tribunal in January. Yesterday's court case is all about Ashley getting compensation. If it gets Ashley out I'd be happy for Premier League clubs, particularly the top ones to forgo much of their "prize" money so that Mike Ashley can sell the club at actual market value but still get the same price PIF offered 18 months ago OK with me. If Ashley is entitled to compensation and takes this club down with his crap decisions then the Premier League should pay compensation to the fans to whatever value is required to buy Ashley out

Yesterday in court it was heard that Richard Masters threatened to expel Newcastle United from the Premier League in a heated argument with Mike Ashley. It doesn't look like you'll hear that in the national press. The court case is about determing whether the Premier League has been corrupted by BEIN sport and the Super league clubs to block Newcastle's takeover. If found to be the case Mike Ashley may be entitled to millions if not tens of millions in compensation from the Premier League.

The catalytic converter thief's around my mates turn up with baseball bats, broad daylight, have beaten someone up before and smashed the shit out of someone else's car for challenging them. They also sometimes don't bother hiding their identities. However it is London, most of the CCTV hasn't worked for 15 years in this city.

No one more entrepreneurial than the criminal. When they couldn't sell drugs in lockdown the stole dogs and catalytic converters. Now in the fuel game.

Coronavirus led to 40,000 HGV tests being cancelled. 25,000 fewer candidates passed their tests in 2020. The test backlog now in 2021 can't be cleared quickly enough because there aren't enough assessors. Thousands of drivers left the country because of Covid and haven't returned. Yet upping wages and issuing some visas to people from other countries also with driver shortages will sort things out? Does free movement do anything but mask non existent public policy? Is the goal simply to get back to teetering on the brink instead of having gone over the edge like now. Bearing in mind that we are over the edge because of consumer behaviour. Reality is the government were warned in June/July and they ignored the warnings. Only now trying to get assessors out of retirement or from the army to clear a backlog. This is a public policy failure and incompetence.

Saw the car wash guys selling petrol by the cannister Clearly bought loads last night to sell it on today. Entrepreneurs.

Did you actually need fuel or are you part of the problem?

They'll only sack him when we are cut adrift at the bottom, they said so last year. ASM could probably single handedly ensure we aren't cut adrift. With the takeover in the courts in February they'll hang on to Bruce as long as possible.

Incorrect. Rafa did not have 2 seasons after finishing 10th he had 1. Last year was not Bruce's first season. This is his 3rd year. In Rafa's final season he spent £18m in the summer. We struggled. Ashley was largely blamed for lack of spend but some fans were disgruntled with Rafa. He then signed Almiron in January and in the 2nd half of the season we were excellent. We were a proper outfit and clearly on course for good things. Stats without context is bad analysis. That's what's happening when you judge based on a googled league table. Jacob Murphy was the most expensive player Rafa signed at £12m. Bruce has bought FIVE players for more than that. Ashley didn't back Rafa because the business model is to not spend until we have saved the money. Under Rafa we saved tens of millions and when he left that summer it was there in a pot to spend. It was spent on Joelinton and ASM. Don't reduce the opposition to Bruce to just spending arguments. Those arguments are about YOUR claims that Bruce has done well or just as good as Rafa. We've wanted Bruce out on numerous occasions because our eyes are offended by the crap served up and our ears are offended by the wanker comments he makes.

Don't really care what happened 3 years ago. Comparing is stats without context. We were 17th with 4 games to go last season. We won 3 of the last 4, sending us up the ladder dramatically and out of nowhere. It was not by any stretch of the imagination a not bad season. That team should have had the objective of 10th. Competing for 10th. Hardly a high bar. We had spent enough to do it. We had the players to get close at least. Yet we finished a whopping 14 points behind that and spent a lot of the year flirting with the drop. Now here we are. A bad start to the season. Are we going to be flirting with the drop again or are we going to push on for the top 10? What do you think?

How is not any worse than Rafa a good thing? He inherited Rafa's team minus Ayoze Perez and spent £125m without losing anyone good. Yet we are out the League cup and in the bottom 3 looking total dog shit and in desperate need of a win tonight.

Pardew wasn't wanted. He came in to fans chanting for Chris Hughton back. Yet when Pardew did well that one time he was celebrated. No reason Bruce can't be either. I don't buy any of this you never wanted him therefore you Geordies are too thick to give him credit when it is due. Bruce, the Donald Trump of football, who treats us fans like the Democrats, the Evening Chronicle like CNN and Rafa like Hilary Clinton, by virtue of his own stupid mouth has to do more than otherwise to win fans over. He makes everything 100 times worse for himself and is ruining football for a city with his twatish remarks all the time. He is the embodiment of anti-Newcastle, he chooses to be that. He isn't our manager he is yours. He takes his strength from you not us. He sees himself as superior to us and not the servant of the fans. He takes his lead from you. The ease of which Newcastle United majority fan opinion can be written off by outsiders is what he gets out of bed for. I long for the day he and the rest of those who have a negative opinion on our support and who we are, back us or just leave us alone.

I've long looked at the way failures speak of their time at a club after they've been booted. It's often totally divorced from reality, full of clichés and blaming others. It makes sense to be like that because how else could you live with yourself. Imagine being a failure in your job where everyone around you thinks you are shit, that's not good for your mental health. You need some defence. Some cognitive twist. Otherwise you'll be depressed. The problem for Bruce, as it was for Pardew, is that he's long past his failure cut off point. He's still in the job so we are seeing the defence mechanisms while he still comes to work. Like Pardew a couple of wins here and there could buy some respite but it is all temporary because ultimately he's most likely not good enough for the job. At least there's no evidence now or in his past that he is.

Fuck me have worse words ever been said by a manager? We are rotten to the core.

£7500 a week. Leicester even offered a compromise on that to try and get the deal through according to their local press. Whatever we offered it can't be higher than zero. It looks like we were playing silly buggers. Lee Charnley is easily the worst chief exec in the Premier League. Funnily enough we would have been able to afford it if Charnley didn't get a £500k pay rise this year.

The Telegraph has reported we were offered on loan Choudhury, Tuanzebe, Maitland-Niles, Bellerin, Winks, Holgate and Boubacar Kamara. We refused all as we wouldn't pay any loan fee.

Couldn't agree a wage %. Mental.

Window closes. Bruce wanted a holding mid and centre back as a minimum. Correct in my opinion. He got neither. Even reports that Charnley shut up shop earlier in the day yesterday and Bruce spent the last hours trying to do deals himself. Quite a few loan offers seem to have collapsed as we haggled over the wage % and fee. Fit and proper owners.

That's when you add youth players into it so slight distortion. First team wages level is 5 out 1 in. Actual first team players is 0 out 0 in on end of the season. Because all the pundit class said we were good at the end of last season the club hierarchy don't see why they need to bother adding to the team.

Couldn't tell you. Bruce is a knacker. Didn't play him despite begging him to sign a new deal and promising him game time once he did. Really odd.