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Katie Hopkins now being promoted, it's a new low for the forum.

Might have been posted already but this is superb

Isn't that an ok strategy though? Free shot at a big chunk of the Scottish electorate in doing so. The SNP often spend more on campaigning than Labour and the Conservatives combined in Scotland. The dilemma is whether it is worth Labour directing more funds to Scotland rather than marginal seats in England and Wales. You'd be hard pushed to make a case that it is worth bothering competing with the SNP right now. The risk of doing so is to lose a general election. You'll probably get a better return on investment by targeting seats in England and Wales to bring about a majority. Whilst rUK is so easily swung and the SNP so entrenched, Scotland will be trapped in an unhealthy electoral state.

Michael Emenalo favourite to become Director of Football

Like I've said more than once some people did get jabbed out of fear of covid. Lots of people in fact. So what if they did. That however wasn't the only motivator. For some the driving force was things like pro-social behaviour, even some just to go on holiday for example. Not everyone I know who got jabbed was afraid of covid. But everyone I know who didn't get jabbed is afraid of the jab. It's in your words and posts for the last year. You can try and deflect with these comfort blanket statements of "I don't need it" but every now and then the naked fear of oh no this jab is dangerous and suspicious comes dribbling out.

Not entirely taking the piss, but yeah partly. I know the unjabbed don't like to be tarred as frightened, it hurts the ego of men, it can feel humiliating. End of the day anything you recognise as a risk that you then don't take is the result of trepidation and fear. An overpowering feeling that said risk might happen so you won't take it. Some get jabbed because they don't recognise any risk. Some recognise risk but it doesn't overwhelm them. It isn't a crippling fear for them as it is for the unjabbed. A key part of the public policy strategy around the vaccine early doors was and is to combat both the misinformation that makes people frightened and the way in which people process said information. At this point, if you're not jabbed you're probably never going to be. So I don't care about debunking misinformation anymore. I'm happy to move to the next method of social control, call them out for what they are, frightened.

There you go. You are afraid. That's all I was getting at. The unjabbed are frightened. My point all along. Don't know why you bothered denying it. It is what it is. You are scared of it. Own your fear. Don't get this whole faux macho personna you see of unjabbed who walk around saying they're not afraid of covid, as if to purport an absence of fear in their persona. All whilst simultaneously being shit scared of the vaccine.

I can't be bothered to go back and get the posts as this thread is hundreds of pages long, but you most certainly early on were plugging the risks of the vaccine and the usual lines about it. Some who didn't know already wouldn't have found out about your son if it wasn't for your vaccine takes. Virologists debate all those points you make, that much is out there daily. Research is mixed. Under such circumstances, in a pandemic, if you're not a afraid just get it done. If it's nothing to get it done then why would you actively and deliberately go against what is being asked of you by those trying to manage a pandemic. The afraid make excuses and love conspiracy theories.

Makes no sense to bottle it on flimsy points like that. Just do the socially responsible thing and get it done if you're not scared of it.

I don't know any of them but if they are anything like you and the other unjabbed I know then yes, they are afraid and that's OK. Own it and check it. Pumping alt right shite and arguments that are all other the shop seems like the fear is a little unchecked to me. Many got jabbed out of fear of the virus, I've already said as much. Particularly over 50s. Typically they're actually OK admitting to the presence of that fear in my experience. For some too it goes unchecked and that makes them seek out more frightening news or become scared to go outside. Familiar? I've never come across an unjabbed who isn't afraid of the vaccine. Whether they choose to recognise that in their language and themselves or not. The central tenant of the argument of the unjabbed is that the vaccine could be dangerous to them. A sense of danger and harm is the very definition of fear.

The unjabbed are frightened. They are shit scared. It is as simple as that. That can push them down rabbit holes of misinformation and the suppression of ambiguity and social responsibility that comes with the vaccine decision. It works the other way, I know people who've been jabbed because they're frightened of covid when they likely don't need to be. Ultimately what matters is social responsibility. When it comes to healthcare workers you'd like to think they're braver, more trusting and more socially responsible. Imagine working with cancer patients and being faced with a question, we have a vaccine here that might reduce transmission and help to protect the vulnerable do you want to take it? No. A couple of months later, we have a vaccine here that our data suggests it reduces transmission and protects others, do you want to take it? No. A couple of months later, we have a vaccine here that seems to reduce transmission in the short term then drops off, do you want to take it to protect the patients you have in the next few months? No. That is mental.

The side effects of the anti-vax rabbit hole are probably worse than the vax itself. Delusion, paranoia, dizziness, anger, social pariah, association with Piers Corbyn, getting rattled by a phone mast when walking the dog. The amount of hours in the gym and the stench of ketosis breath this lot have to go through to counteract the weeks lost to their life from all the anti-vax stressor side effects doesn't seem worth it.

Guessing they got distracted by some bar charts of shirt sales

That whole generation of Man Utd players are wrong'uns

Be interesting to see how long it lasts. David Beckham is criticised in today's papers for taking £10m from Qatar and saying nothing about homophobia. Would that article get printed it the Saudi takeover wasn't big news right now. I think not.

The new owners are all over the place because the takeover was out of the blue. Premier League caved after CAT hearing had them on the hook for a £10m+ compensation payment. Charnley should have been sacked first. Within 5 minutes of the takeover. That he hasn't been and that Bruce stayed for a week emphasises the leadership vacuum at the club right now. All that matters about sponsorship is that it is market value. We just gave Sports Direct 14 years of free advertising, probably worth in excess of £100m.

Fuck I'd just ordered two fake camel humps to stick on the dogs back as well

Paulo Fonseca's odds have come right down tonight. Now 6/5 with SkyBet

Rafa gifs are outdated now

Heard some support that. Personally I'd sack Bruce now. Let Jones have Palace game. If we don't beat Palace then go down the save me route. If we can beat Palace we should still consider a long term option. It's real touch and go right now.

We need a manager who will take the team full time from their current semi professional state of training only twice a week.

It needs to be someone who can organise a team and defence. Even then it might not be enough for us to stay up. A lot of damage has been done, we are an unfit and uneducated side regards to roles. It could easily be a slog under anyone. If Dubravka was fit maybe even Bruce could somehow get his way out of this. At this moment in time we just have to gamble on new ideas and new manager bounce to get us to mid January. Bruce is toxic and doing an awful job at this moment in time.

Didn't take long to become a farce

A few away from Spurs summer list just gone