MUFC

Gridlock is good, on Netflix.

Oh Nudge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47847740

Off topic but has anyone played the latest pro-evo? First time ever my brother never brought it, sonethingvto do with it having no CL?

Cool in 1995 I was 15 and 16 in December, still young. Was another 5 years before I started picking up on the technical side of things, more I took in, the more I was shocked at how in depth and the level of impact a single component can have on the overall functionality of the car.

Am, on season 5 of sons of anarchy.

lol is this guy from Burnley?

No worries we going in circles, was good debating. the art of debate is still alive I suppose. Debating without insults and dummies being spat out is refreshing as some people can get heated when people don't agree with them. I started properly watching F1 in 1995 and have only missed around 4 races on TV, have spoken to a few people about F1 but conversations were tough as they didn't know much about the technical side, but more about who was good behind the wheel. So its refreshing to speak to somebody who watched it prior to my time and has the races recorded to prove it. Now get some work done you lazy sod lol.

The first link was a decent read, my bad not sure where I got my opinion from, you made me do more reading these last 2 days then I did 3 years at uni. Regarding the bold section you asked about, regarding the fuel filter tampering. I was saying they never really had a choice in removing the device as the explosion had brought it to light, to the eyes of the world. they were gaining advantages in the pits, with quicker stops, but proving it was another thing. If his car never exploded, they may have gone the whole season in this manner. Regarding the Jos allegations, I remember him speaking about the allegations around 2011, some 7 years later. Not 15, but it is still time after the incident, but he maintains he did speak to his boss about Shueys car at the time, only he knows if he did. I don't think Senna, would have beaten Schuey in 1994, Schuey won the first 3 races, and Senna claimed his car was nervous and hard to control. If I don't respond to your reply, am at a birthday party, will reply tonight or in the morning.

I was actually going from your previous post when you said yourself that it was hard to find anything from 25 years ago. I did read the first link, and in the initial stages he did say in my opinion, referring to what he thinks. I agree they removed the filter, but did they have choice after it was found? Not sure how I'm wrong on the Mclaren issue? Yes I agree they were fined, but this was for handing in the data after the deadline. The FIA themselves were satisfied that McLaren deemed it legal, should they have been punished? The answer is yes, but the main point is with Benetton. What is the reason that allegations galore were flying their way? Did the FIA have it in for them? Was it a witch-hunt? It wasn't just the FIA, it was a driver of their own team, and other drivers on the grid. these drivers as far as I am aware have never made allegations during their careers about teams cheating before. The reason I gear towards Benetton, isn't because of Shuey himself, only he knows if he knew of any wrong-doing, it isn't for us to say if he did or didn't. But it isn't just one accusation, its a few in one season, and it Benetton's case, the reason people point the finger is because of all these allegations, the fact that they won the title, and the other reasons in this paragraph. You literally said yourself that they were probably up to something, Mclaren and Ferrari would have had the same heat if they won the title or mounted a serious challenge. I take your word on the Ferrari skidblock, they should have been banned, but we all know about Ferrari and their privileges. The Senna/Prost my view did change but your's may remain the same, not everybody is convinced, its each to their own on it at the end of the day.

Please don't hand me in lol.

Palmer having a dig. https://www.planetf1.com/news/palmer-blasts-vettel-for-amateur-bahrain-error/

Ha ha lol

Wild animals fight back. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47843999

No reliable Internet sources as the events were 25 years ago, but you can find Internet information on events which happened 100's of years ago if you wanted to. Before I posted I myself looked for your claims of all but 4 teams doing the same but found nothing. I even typed in every team for the 1994 season, and all that comes up is Benetton, even so it was 25 years ago. Anyway we'll leave that out if nothing can be found, and move on to other parts of our conversation. I vaguely remember the Mclaren and Ferrari incidents, if memory serves me right and correct me if I am wrong. McLaren were cleared of any wrong wrong doing, but with Benetton were fined for not handing over data. If they were doing anything illegal it didn't help as they finished 4th in the constructors. Larini leaked information to the press that he only used it during a single practice session, never in qualifying or an actual race. You also didn't mention that both Larini and Ferrari later denied the claim, this is actually an odd chain of events. Going back to the launch control which supposedly gave quicker starts, Following San Marino, while the investigation was pending, but so when the heat was put on Benetton, Schuey did mysteriously have a decline in many areas, had they stopped doing what they were being accused off? Big reductions in fastest laps and race wins. It reminded me of Ferrari last season, there were rumors of Ferrari and the legitimacy of their battery season, not was said, but as the heat was cranked up they slowed down and seemed to have lost their straight line speed they had prior to allegations. No way am I taking away his abaility or his 6 other titles, there was just to much from Benetton in a single season, not to mention the skidblock in 1994 which got him disqualified from the Belgium GP. I don't give Senna a free pass, do I see him as the greatest? I certainly do, he drove prior to driver aids, and the competition during his time was really tough. Senna in 1990, Prost went into him, in 1989 in my opinion Prost took the corner way to early, I watched the whole race and his line and timing on that corner for the crash was different to his previous laps. Prost for me in 1989 turned in a full car length way to early, out breaking is illegal unless you can get to the corner before the opponent, and as long as its before the opponent can reach the turn or accelerate point of the turn, that was the rule back then anyway. If you don't believe me on this, there use to be a video via an overhead shotm is worth watching, it has changed peoples opinions, it did for me. Oh Prost. Senna had his cunty ways but he was concerned about safety and rallied for changes in the last few years of his life. The nutter got out of his car on track, to help another driver who had crashed, Oh Senna.

You watched it mate? Seen half, going to watch the last hour later. Very good, slow but intriguing.

Oh Bonnie and Clyde.

Checked the weather in Dubai this morning, was 38 degrees, am going in 11 days. Going to be way to fucking hot.

Come on buddy, the guy is in a horrible state right now, really no need for this.

I never doubted his ability as a driver, and as for knowing him, you really don't know to personally know him when his antics are being shown live on worldwide TV. Yes other teams bent the rules slightly, but what Benetton did was taking the piss. His partner Jos even made claimed, and I don't like this tosser at all, as did Senna. Even Flavio himself said we had TC on the car but never used it, do you believe it was never used on Schueys car? even when Jos spoke to Flavio about it he never wanted to discuss it, why is this? The excuse was that it was dormant and would cost money to remove them. Anyway you said other cars in 1994 were doing, all but 4 teams, I was young at the time and have looked into this, I don't seem to be able to find anything in 1994 on other teams, if you can show me something I will hold my hands up to it. You can argue that Hill was only close in 1994 due to Schueys ban, but you could argue that Schuey was only so far ahead due to the dodgyness of Benetton. Do you really think the 1994 collision was borderline? He blatantly took him out, was as blatant as Keanes tackle on Haaland, or Diegos hand of God, not taking away his other 6 titles but this one should have been taken away, it was revolting what he did. The same in 1997, this should have resulted in a lengthy ban, he was a great driver no doubt but he well passed the line of being ruthless and was a blatant cheat at times. Going into another teams garage in 1998 after the collision, this isn't having an aura, this is arrogance. This is a case of whacking anyone who challenges you but when your on the receiving end you can't take it. even so Coulthard moved aside and it was Schuey himself who hit into the back of Coulthard. No doubt he was a great driver, and you're right he won the other 6 fair and square, hats off to him. He used his number status 1 status throughout his career effectively, I hope he recovers from his current ill health.

Lol

You seen it?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/alonso-im-the-best-driver-in-the-world/