Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted April 8 Subscriber Share Posted April 8 Saw a good point that Everton should be appealing to have any points deduction suspended until next season given that no other club will ever be given penalties for two different time periods in the same season and that being inflicted upon Everton would come purely as a consequence of the Premier League's administrative processes. I assume we'll appeal any points deduction given today which means that teams in the relegation fight have to wait on the results of both ours and Forest's appeals during the last 6 games of the season. I know I've been going on about it all season but it's ridiculous and it destroys the sporting integrity of the league so it needs to continue being called out. However, we're probably better off getting hit with 2 points now and taking our chances than starting on -2 next season with Leicester and Leeds to contend with instead of the shambles the Championship has had to offer this season and after our squad has been asset stripped just to keep the club afloat yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted April 8 Administrator Share Posted April 8 2-point deduction confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted April 8 Subscriber Share Posted April 8 Racked up 35 points from 31 games. Had 8 taken off us. I think our treatment overall has been pretty scandalous but we would have been dead and buried either of the previous 2 years. Trying to look at the positives. Two points ahead of Forest and Luton with a much better goal difference than Luton and home games against Forest, Brentford and Sheffield Utd as well as Luton away remaining. We shouldn't get relegated from here but if we do then it's because of PSR. By the way, our two breaches combined still add up to less than Forest's breach and that's counting 2021 and 2022's accounts twice. We've lost 8 points and they've lost 4. Talk about fit for purpose, eh? Not to mention the fact their breach was for actually spending on players and ours is mostly interest on stadium loans but old ground, old ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted April 8 Administrator Share Posted April 8 Third penalty incoming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted April 9 Subscriber Share Posted April 9 8 hours ago, Stan said: Third penalty incoming? Next season if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted April 10 Subscriber Share Posted April 10 The stalemate continues. The Premier League have responded to the fan advisory board to basically say it isn't in their remit to "reject" 777 and force the owner to look for an alternative buyer, leaving us in limbo as long as 777 claim to be pursuing this. Moshiri won't talk to other buyers who are ready and willing to come and 'save' the club because they're not willing to buy his equity at the price 777 are willing to pay. All the while, the fans have no power to do anything but watch and wait. As far as I can see, there is no mechanism to stop this going on forever. Either 777 have to provide proof they can buy and fund the club which they haven't managed to do in 8 months, or Moshiri has to agree to sell to somebody else. That somebody else will either have to match 777's price (not going to happen) or Moshiri is going to have to cut his losses and agree to sell his shares to an alternative buyer for less money. The longer he keeps faith with 777, the more Everton gets saddled with further debt and the less appealing ownership of the club becomes, meaning he's likely to have even lower bids for his shares. Now we wait for Moshiri to come to the decision to cut his losses. I can't see how 777 are going to pass this fit and proper ownership test if they're asking for another extension now, so I think it's on Moshiri to end this. Sadly, Moshiri has shown time and time again that he doesn't tend to make either the most prudent decision in general or the decision in the best interests of the football club. It makes you wonder whether this fit and proper owners test should have an expiry date of say 3 months or the PL/EFL should have the means to conclusively reject an application, because this stalemate doesn't help anyone and all the parties worst affected (fans, staff, players) have no power to influence proceedings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted April 15 Subscriber Share Posted April 15 MSP have decided that they'd rather just get their £160m loan repaid late than activate their option to become the majority shareholders of Everton. £160m is more appealing than owning a Premier League football club because of the mess that football club is. Encouraging for our future prospects. I honestly can't see how this ends in anything other than us going into administration and languishing in the lower leagues or going bust entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted April 22 Subscriber Share Posted April 22 Probably good news that alternatives to 777 are being considered. I hope we don't follow the state ownership model though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,389 Posted 4 hours ago Administrator Share Posted 4 hours ago Another points deductions for insolvency? Only seen the headline so guess there's a lot more context to that potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,669 Posted 2 hours ago Subscriber Share Posted 2 hours ago Moshiri has said publicly twice that he'll pay the bills if needs be, not that you can trust him. It's really stupid this. The stadium will be complete in December and at that point, the financial potential of the club and the business completely transforms. If the club can just survive that long then it actually becomes an appealing prospect because the issue at the moment is cash flow and the stadium will go some way to changing that. We wanted Moshiri to sell the club. It's typical of him that he found the one buyer who don't seem able to actually complete the purchase but have lent the club money in the interim which has ended up just saddling the club with more debt than we already had and making it harder for him to find an alternative buyer. It would be funny if we went into administration, beat Luton and Sheffield United and still stayed up with another 9 points taken off us, but I'm pretty sure you aren't allowed to take a points deduction on your own terms like that anymore. Cambridge Utd did it years ago, took the 10 point penalty two games before the end of the season after they'd already had relegation confirmed. Hopefully this is simply an enquiry and a case of the club having an idea of what all their options look like. Push has to come to shove here though. There's been a lot of rumours about other potential buyers waiting in the wings to swoop in when Moshiri gets desperate enough to reduce his price. The only worry is that those people are waiting for Everton to go into administration, clear the debt, and then purchase the club and the stadium with it debt-free and at a knock-down price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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