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I think Rooney's needs a bit of context. Derby was a horrendous situation and in his second season over exceeded expectations. Birmingham was a daft job to take given there was very few points separating them from 5th to 15th and they were about to walk in to a set of very difficult fixtures. This was really the first job to judge him, and fair play for him taking on one of the most difficult jobs in the divison. Lampard you can spin his times at Derby and his first spell at Chelsea as a success or a failure depending on your narrative. He either did well to get Derby to Wembley or he should have achieved more given where some of those players ended up. He either did well with the embargo at Chelsea and progressing young players or he failed given what Tuchel was able to get out that squad at the end of the season. I can't remember where Everton were in the league table when he was sacked but if they were outside the bottom then you could spin narratives with them. Again, this feels like the first job where we should be able to judge him. I feel like 7th to 12th would be a good season but I'm sure people will push the narrative that Coventry should be better given they've had Gyokeres and Hamer money to spend.

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Absolute madness how many jobs both Rooney and Lampard have already had in management in the top two divisions given how hopeless they've both been in each one.

I don’t think you really understand how bad it is when the Rodgers-rot steps in. He tries terrible things that clearly don’t work, alienating his players, and doubling down on bad decisions, while getting weirdly aggressive and defensive in the press about it. Imo Rodgers is a guy you bring in to shake things up for a year or two, then you sack him before he ruins everything and leaves the next man with a bigger problem to solve. He is not a builder of squads. He’s good tactically before he gets his fingerprints all over a squad and then starts to massively overthink things. Leicester should have sacked him at the end of the season BEFORE they got relegated & I am 100% sure they’d have stayed up. That’s also why I’m pretty sure you’re wrong about Stan being too harsh on Rodgers, because I remember saying all of this to him and him being like “nah you’re too fuckin harsh on the guy, he’s done enough to earn more time to turn it around” But I was all aboard the Rodgers is shite train and I am still aboard that train. He’s fine if you need a quick fix but give him the keys for too long and you’re fucked.

I completely understand why Leicester fans would be unhappy with Cooper - totally different style of manager to what got them up successfully. I don’t think just because Cooper had Forest survive, that it meant he’s anywhere near the right man for Leicester. That’s honestly pretty lazy thinking imo

Who's a fucking chicken now

Mane was for sure a top player for us. I just think Salah’s always been on a different level

So Liverpool have knocked back Real Madrid over signing TAA in January

I think you're right. You hear people like rednapp say English managers aren't given a chance but foreign managers go abroad if they have to. English managers rarely do that. It does seem to be a bit of a thing in English football to blame foreigners. We did it with footballers for years and only now are we seeing more English players go abroad. As for Rooney I don't know. Plymouth only just stayed up last season. So although they are worse I'm not sure how much worse they are. Perhaps he could be an assistant manager for a bit, perhaps abroad like what you said and see how he does. From what I've heard his punditry is quite good so he could do that. He couldn't be any worse that owen

Agree with everything you say on Salah. Mane was unbelievable that season we won the league though. The amount of important goals he scored was unbelievable. Goals that were either winners or to break the deadlock in tight games.

@Dr. Gonzo I never actually said there was anything wrong with sacking Rodgers in their relegation season. I think in hindsight they might have had a better chance with him as they got Dean Ashton in but I think it was reasonable to get rid of him at the time.

Yeah I feel you, I was mostly talk tongue in cheek.. but seriously have I mentioned Mane was a disaster I haven't seen anything even linking the idea to us before and I just assumed hes staying with you guys, I hope he does anyways. Its an interesting time for us as well as we have a handful of contract/personnel decisions coming up here too. The main one is Kimmich's contract expiring in the summer for example. To a lesser extent Sane but most of our wing players are pretty up in the air.

We're just repeating the same thing. I never said you shouldn't be ambitious. I even said you maybe should of got rid of him at the end of the season as I didn't think he would take the club that far. All I said is I think a newly promoted side main aim should be to stay up. And I think fans should have at least given him a chance. As I said Leicester fans never wanted him in the first place before a ball was even kicked. Even though at that point his previous record suggested there was a reasonable chance he would have kept you up. Obviously as the season started saying he would of kept you up because he did at forest would of been silly if results are bad. I'm not saying it wouldn't of been. But the fact is before the season had started Leicester had a manager who had kept a team in the league before. And they couldn't wait to get rid of him. I personally think that's deluded. Because at the moment that is Leicesters level.

Yeah for sure on both counts. Obviously lots of massive cunts in all segments of football support, as there are in all walks of life in the country - and every other country. Just explaining why I don’t really have much sympathy for Leicester… or pretty much most any club if they go down. I’m pretty sure I actively dislike most English clubs at this point. Re: Rodgers - I actually think I remember you sticking by him while I said imo that things were getting pretty shit with him pretty quick.

Precisely the reason several fans wanted Rodgers out around the start of that ill-fated 3rd season. I think I gave him too much benefit of the doubt and actually thought he'd turn it around. As for the chants, you know as much as I do that I think they're disgusting and totally hypocritical/ironic as if there aren't people struggling in Leicester as it is. It doesn't even make sense chanting it at a football ground let alone in any other scenario. In saying that, I've also heard Liverpool fans (and other fans) come to the KP chanting 'you're just a small town in Baghdad' and 'you're just a town full of Pakis' so Liverpool fans don't do themselves any favours either. Granted, it's not all fans though.

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I may have seen some warning signs when we were in 8th with him but I don't recall wanting him gone with us in that position. Perhaps when we started dropping to 12th, 13th and lower is when I wanted him gone. I don't believe that was the only thing Cooper would have said. And if it is, perhaps he should have taken responsibility for it and had us playing better. We were utter dire under him. There's several reasons I don't think he'd have kept us up. I've mentioned them before and I'm not going to go over them again. Your logic of him keeping Forest up isn't enough to have kept us up. If that logic worked across the board you'd never have any relegations. In what way am I delusional? Is it purely because I wanted Cooper out? Is that all it's based on? I've already conceded we're not a massive club (and I don't think we ever were despite our successes). It's not a crime to be ambitious and want the good times to continue for your club...

Good good, tell every club all about this ordeal. Although honestly Salah’s always been on another level to Mane. There was a time where some people were saying Mane was the better of the 2, but I don’t think I ever saw or understood why. He’s probably the best Liverpool player in my lifetime, even better than Stevie. And there’s a good case he’s our best player since Dalglish. I think it’d be criminal if we let him leave.

@Stan I know you definitely did want Rodgers gone when you were 8th stop lying. I can't find the interview where he said that. If you don't believe me i don't really care. Your just asserting he isn't power league. Why? He kept forest up why wouldn't he keep you up? I never said said he was guaranteed to keep you up. I said you weren't in the relegation zone under him and he may have kept you up. I don't know as much about Leicester as you. But football fans don't know as much as managers but they still disagree with them at times. All I'm saying is from an outside point of view I think Leicester fans are delusional. I may well be wrong. But you haven't said anything to make me change my mind. In the same way I doubt I have said anything to make you change yours

Tbh I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having wanted Rodgers out before the writing was well and truly on the wall. I know from experience when shit looks like it’s going very wrong with a Rodgers side, you let that shit fester for too long and you’re in a disaster situation. Leicester are a newly promoted club… but they should never have been relegated in the first place and Cooper was a bizarre appointment imo. Having said that, I don’t think RVN’s gonna save them either. But I also couldn’t give a toss if Leicester go down - they’re some of the most vocal fans with poverty mocking chants. And tbh that’s why I don’t really give a shit about the fortunes of most English clubs - there’s only about 3 that don’t do those chants.

Show me that interview. Maybe if Cooper didn't play boring negative football he may have got the fans onside earlier? Show me where I wanted Rodgers gone when we finished 8th? Cooper isn't even lower league. Your logic is deluded. Just because he kept Forest up doesn't mean he was going to do the same with us? How many games of ours did you actually watch? As said before, I'm willing to bet it wasn't that many of you think he was keeping us up. Look at the teams we won against this season under him - Southampton and Bournemouth. We only beat teams that we beat last season. We weren't winning games we should have done. You talk like there was a guarantee he was going to keep us up. The direction we were heading in was downwards under him. I know more about my club than you do. That's not arrogance, it's just simple and plain fact. And in a similar vein, you know more about Arsenal than I do so I'm not going to question your knowledge about your club. But you seem happy to do so when it comes to Leicester just because you've spoken to a few other fans? I don't buy it. Like I said, have a happy new year cos I can't be arsed debating with you any more. You're still stuck on the idea that Cooper was good enough for us based on very little.

I think it would of been much better if they had kept it as an annual competition. The way it is it feels like like a competition for a third ranked title. Tournament wrestling could work really well in a company like aew which is wrestling focused. Okada will probably turn face soon. He is popular and I do agree more needs to be done with him. I'm not sure about a rivalry with omega though. Even if it's excellent it will still be compared to their rivalry which it will never be as good as.

@Stan Do you read what I said. You wanted Rodgers gone the season you finished 8th. I didn't say anything about your relegation season. Also I never said Cooper was a great manager. He's lower premier league which is what Leicester are. You're a newly promoted side. Just staying up is fine for the 1st season. You could get rid of him at the end of the season because he probably won't get you that far up the league but if he keeps you up first season back in the league, great. Cooper kept forest in the league the first season he may well of kept you up this time. So thats another load of shit you said. You call me simple minded but you're one of the most minded know it all's I've ever seen. Cooper literally said in an interview it was hard to play at home because of fans like you.