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If Israel is rightful Jewish clay, then shouldn't all white South Africans get deported and put in camps?

I don’t know any of these people

'Have you tried to stop killing children and surrender?' Why post such a stupid picture that can be easily twisted back?

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That's crazy.

I also lived in in Atlanta for three years @Gunnersaurus. Most people I’ve met Atlanta or Chicago, it’s always economic. I always heard ‘He will run the country like a business’; I guarantee that’s the most common reason, of course these aren’t the sort of people to go to rallies; those are the rabid evangelicals he has courted, frothing from the mouth about immigrants or whatever-the-fuck.

I dunno mate, anti abortion, pro coal, anti environment, he is pretty shit house

But that’s not really the point though? Manchin is a strategic obstructionist that helps the democrats not pass through their major stances like abortion https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/

That Joe Mamchin guy is a notorious democrat obstructionist

The republicans will say things will get worse and they do. The democrats will say things will get better, do nothing after they stack the debate with conservative democrats that block everything; and when things get worse; ‘We tried!’. They get all the benefits of promising a solution, and all the benefits of not delivering. You know this is true deep down.

But mate that’s the democrats thing. They do that with everything, they intentionally take positions that can’t be fulfilled, nor do they try. They do it with everything, student debt, enshrining abortion, ceasefire, etc, and it always gets worse under them despite their ‘stance’

IDK mate the zealotry is just different flavours but it’s there on both sides. I think you just find the religious side more distasteful but to me I see the same rabid bollocks just in different phrasing.

Not but they are getting attacked, as the war slowly escalated? These things are occurring, and more frequently, I feel like this was an inevitability.

But Biden is still president, and it’s not like they weren’t doing these things regardless.

I don’t believe that in any capacity that the democrats don’t let Israel do what they want, not once did the Biden administration do anything but kowtow and send in more munitions and build more war infrastructure. The republicans are just louder evangelically. I don’t believe in any capacity there is a lesser evil in this particular regard. On other subjects sure, but not this.

Not to mention any vote of the last near fifty years to either party has been a vote against the Middle East. Either way trying to justify it is a cope. Staying loyal to the democrats despite every single administration making the Middle East worse is just as insane as flipping to republicans, it’s the same. b-but maybe this time it’ll be different is the same as b-but the other guys might be different

It literally doesn’t matter if they voted democrat or republican because you can say the exact same line. ‘You voted democrat? they are supporting a genocide’ ’You voted republican? they will support a genocide’ If genocide if your hardline then you have to protest vote a third party, acting like one or the either is a better choice is insanity. They’d be reaping what they so regardless of the vote Wr aren’t talking economic policy, or domestic policy, if those are your hardline vote democrat IDGAF, that just means you care more about the economy than what is happening in the ME, and a lot of people feel that way, which is fine I suppose.

I’d take the joke of a party that hasn’t had the chance to put children in cages over the two ‘real parties’. If I could vote I wouldn’t have voted Democrat or Republican.

This sort of exposure is how parties get traction. It’s hard to get people on board when they are sceptical, but performing well and getting a further reach makes it more likely against the entrenched, because otherwise people will keep thinking like you’ve just mentioned and just give up, vote for something they disagree with and then complain about it. They do have local representation.

People are cowards, ‘well who I want vote for won’t win, so I’ll vote for diet evil’. It’s pathetic. Voting third candidate is throwing a vote away? Well so is voting Democrat if you don’t believe in them.

They had already voted in a President that supported genocide. The problem is that literally everyone thinks that way, and when people break the mould of the two party system, they are criticised?

What mental gymnastics? Repulicans always had a higher vote in Dearborn this election even on early voting, what happened is that they swung to Jill Stein by nearly 7,000 or didn't vote; so they literally voted for a candidate that didn't endorse genocide. 10% less turnout between 2024 and 2016 as well, and 10x more votes to Stein. https://dearborn.gov/sites/default/files/2024-11/UNOFFICIAL Results_Nov 5 2024 Presidential Election - ALL - ELECTION DAY_City of Dearborn.pdf https://cityofdearborn.org/documents/city-departments/city-clerk/elections/election-results/3587-november-8-2016-election-results/file Mate, You HAVE to stop spreading Democratic party lines that are trying to blame minorities and everyone in between for their loss.

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Antifa are the real fascists though, mate. It even has it in the name.

Yeah I do, Harris was monstrously more popular when Biden announced he was out