Harry

Come on Gents keep it civil. I'm in the same boat with the gym being closed. It was my major fitness outlet, and with the office closure and no morning commute I've also dropped from about 8000 steps a day walking baseline to 1000. It isn't good. I'm still figuring out what to do about it. Have you considered making any purchases to cover the gap in gym closures? If you have space for it in your house you could buy something second hand that you can onsell later for basically the price you bought it... A decent hedging strategy against some of the current measures being more prolonged than we'd hope.

He wouldn't fit our front line.

Kinda sad but kinda cool.

Maybe at the level of people who can't impact the situation there is some therapy in focusing the anger, but it would be unproductive for any of our world leadership to be fixating on the China aspect while there is an urgent need to be responding to the situation in their own country. The appropriate investigative agencies should be focused on collecting evidence and fact finding, but it will be used down the road. The leadership should just be doing everything they can to help and avoid deflecting blame for any political reason. Be accountable. Get shit done. Move heaven and earth for your people. That's what I'm expecting of my political leaders.

Also a couple of Rudy Giuliani's.

Watched a feature on 60 minutes tonight in Australia. The focus was what did China know when, and what did they tell the WHO and when. Documents and evidence suggesting a problem first appearing in early to mid November, with approximately 6 weeks of keeping it under wraps, followed by advising the WHO around New year's but assuring them it wasn't transmittable from person to person, followed by using a lockdown in late Jan days after 5 million people from Hubei province jetting off for It's not the appropriate time to focus on the China aspect of all this, but their wrongdoing is massive, and the opportunity to ensure this thing never entered these countries in the first place was lost due to China.

A shame new Zealand aren't on there. Is anyone other than Australia posting attention to what they've done? Gone very very hard and very early to a 3 week total shutdown even when zero fatalities nationally. Seem to be trying to totally stamp out corona and then go close to bank to normal... That will be done extreme of the Anglo world results set I'm guessing. Edit. Just realised it's a death curve so if course they aren't on it

I found this pretty good. https://www.facebook.com/173915612706111/posts/2660801087350872/

So from stans numbers 5 a day on average compared to 300 or so today for corona from a small 17,000 confirmed cases. I'd assume the real case number is more like 170k. But if you added two zeros to that case count to 20m people you'd be talking about 30,000 deaths a day.

He did a 180 from his initial stance that it was an exaggerated movement by the media and democrats to hurt his presidency, towards taking it seriously, and offered daily press briefings and changed his tone. It lasted about two days before he was back mouthing off on the podium and repeating falsehoods. And now he's definitely more worried about the markets than the virus with his comments that the cure is worse than the disease and he'd like to open the USA back for business at Easter.

Sometimes the absolute shit that the president chats in a live on air press conference still amazes me

Presumably that's provided they're testing in front of it, not learning of the cases via a body count?

Think that's just luck mate. The flu kills people every year despite the fact any person would receive good care in a hospital system that isn't overloaded, it still kills some people. Largely those who are frail and/or have preexisting conditions.

The Governor of Mississippi has issued an executive order to override all shutdowns imposed by local mayor's. Restaurants, churches, salons re-opened.

Harsh Poor boz

I agree that is a conversation that should be had, but I believe the economics would support the current approach taken (and that governments are already considering this type of data in the decisions they are making). Below article is a good model albeit of the US not Australia. In addition to the below model figures points which should be considered but aren't... 1. Covid puts around 15% in hospital, and 4% in intensive care on ventilators. 2. Morbidity rate is not fixed, it's a product of the gap between serious cases at a point in time, and the actual health care system capacity. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/25/opinion/coronavirus-trump-reopen-america.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

What are you taking about mate? You're advocating for the "let this rip through and let people die" approach?

That's good to hear. I heard earlier today the governor of Mississippi had today issued an executive order to override lockdown orders from some of the states mayor's. The US is so divided now I wouldn't put it past some places to just decide not to hide from the virus and let it do it's worst