SirBalon

Anyone that can vote in a General Election can also vote in a Referendum. You have to be British, Irish, Commonwealth citizen with residence in the UK or a British Citizen living abroad that is registered to vote in the last 15 years. Oh, and over 18 in all cases!

We do indeed live in curuous times, quite shocking times to be honest. Why such a senior party member be standing down at a time like this is beyond me, but what's for sure is that this letter of resignation below does not tell the truth. But then again I wouldn't have expected him to cause a perfect storm against the party I more than am positive still wants to win the General Election. Only that he has decided it will be without the deputy leader of the party. I'm not going to go into all the small details of what's been going on recently to add more fuel to this especially what was tried on him by his party seniors and union members during the Labour Party congress... Let's just leave it as being a vital blow for Labour right now... Food for the wankers on the other side to use so as to divert attention from their disgusting opinions on people less fortunate than them. One of my favourite politicians is deleted from the active political map...

Niiiice I wonder who this individual will be voting for? I bet anything he’s not a remainer either That question actually tells a story and encompasses the state of England. Because the original tweet Lammy is answering is under investigation.

Many of them have unfortunately been groomed (let themselves be groomed) and are victims. It’s very difficult to change when that occurs even with all the facts put before them.

Apart from the fact James O'Brien has literally taught himself almost every word of what EU Membership means and contains, he employed a sitting researcher 2 years ago that sits in the studio with his producer and in any phonecall from a caller that researcher is immediately onto the details relating to what said caller is talking about and between his own extensive knowledge and then the exact wording within the subject being debated, he pulls the caller apart. He himself says that there is absolutely no benefit for leaving the EU... NONE! I remember his talk at Waterstones and he reiterated that there isn't a single minuscule benefit for Brexit and due to this fact he has taken it upon himself to make sure this is made public. Aside from his book (How To Be Right In A World Gone Wrong) which was the international best seller in all English speaking countries for many months, he also made the New York Times front page some months back on how he has almost off his own back taken Brexit to account in the UK. He has even made it into newspapers of most of Europe and has political fugures following him from Asia, through Europe to the Americas.

I KNOW it’s another James O’Brien radio excerpt (from yesterday morning’s show), but listen to it carefully. It’s just another example of the fucking hundreds over the past 3+ years that prove ONCE AGAIN that this is all fucking bullshit!

It is unbelievable, but a decent proportion of the blame lies at the feet of opposition parties in this General Election by not forcing the Government's hand and literally going hell for leather on this issue. There will be a decent proportion of more moderate Tory voters that would be disgusted at finding out that any Tory MP was in any way involved in something as illegal as that.

It's a barrel load of things, not just this latest thing. We can also remember how Theresa May refused to initiate an investigation into Cambridge Analytica, Aaron Banks amongst other illegal involvements and overspending on the Vote Leave and other pro-Brexit campaigns. There's tons of stuff like the lying in the Brexit campaigning!

This is Brexit's version of one of those great types of films that you just watch time and time again whike they always entertain you in the same way without fail. Don't know if I've posted it before which would be odd, but I don't care... I'm doing it again because it's just

Talking about discoveries @Carnivore Chris I'm sure will like this one...

This one is great... Followed Led By Donkeys during their active period and theyhave been absolutely brilliant.

Start it if you wish guys, the forum belongs to you, all of you. I just thought that seeing that the only reason a General Election was called was due to the impasse on Brexit, then that Brexit was always going to be a pretty large part of the debate on this particular GE even if the policies are also extremely important. It doesn't stop anyone in this case posting about the policies as I have also done this morning on a previous post. Remember one thing if you decide to create a new thread... Brexit WILL be debated because Brexit is being consistently mentioned by all the political parties in this campaign. The choice is yours chaps...

You may be sick of it mate and so are most of us. But Brexit is a massive part of this General Election and it is infact the sole reason it’s been called now for December. What happens when the debate inevitably contains Brexit issues mate? It would become a mess and we’d also be talking Brexit on the other thread.

It's not just that... Any deal that Labour would agree with the EU would be very very soft indeed, way too soft for the Tories and those that really want Brexit. Many would actually sway their vote then.

The civil war.

I fully agree and there are many others that feel the same too. I have no problem whatsoever with paying my dues to make the UK a fairer place to reside in and inclusive for all. The US made itself great (initially) on being inclusive (considering the more primative mindsets on achieving such a goal) and that is part of what we have to change. The happiest countries statistically in the world are those that pay more taxes which is why I referred to the Scandinavian region who are top of the happy list.

I've changed the thread title to include the General Election because Brexit and this GE are on in the same thing seeing as nothing was sorted on the Brexit sphere during these three and a half years.

Ex Tory Prime Minister on THESE Tories and the NHS

The Labour Party have some great policies and few can deny this other than people that want to hoard money and not have a care in the world of abusing those that help create that money for them, ie workers. It's bloody hilarious that the Conservative Party are purporting themselves as the party of change, to change things for the UK from the NHS, to policing, to education, to the environment when they're the ones that have been in bloody government for the last 9 years and it's their cuts that have generated this misery in the first place. Ironic that they're in actual fact campaigning against their own governance. The Lib Dems right now are barren of policies other than remaining in the EU or so it seems but there is an important factor there that cannot be denied and that is that Brexit IS IMPORTANT and it has rightly dominated the political and national sphere for over three and a half years... The reason being, it has to be sorted and the best way to sort it after acquiring all the facts and knowledge is to remain in the EU and reform from within as from the outside you haven't got a chance in hell. So they're a useful tool, a tool they seem to be willing to be so as to achieve that target. They know full well they cannot win a GE but they have created and gained enough momentum to hurt the Tory Party in England alone and if the Labour Party were smart, they'd back that and leave them to their own devices while doing what they need to do which is to address the real reason why many voted Brexit which is that they've been forgotten and been left to rot. I haven't a fucking clue as to how the Labour Party plan to finance their utopia-for-all, but what's written on paper sounds fair and just. Many Scandanavian countries employ much of what Corbyn wants to achieve so it's not exactly as Communist as the Tories or other extreme right wing scumbags would like to make people believe. But always remember this! What the right offer is in actual fact very appealing because what it sells is a false possibility of everyone having the chance to be a mega big shot with their vision of how society should be run when in actual fact what they believe in is protecting the extremel wealthy while permitting the use and abuse of workers.

Because the Lib Dems know as well as anyone that the great majority of Labour MPs and Labour members are pro-remain. The Liberal Democrats have been in talks with high profile Labour shadow bench members for months in attempting to convince Jeremy Corbyn to back one of his own people for interim leader, an opportunity that went begging as there were even Tory rebels that would've agreed to someone like Kier Starmer for example. THIS Lib Dems aren't anti-Labour, they're anti-Corbyn because he is the reason the remain alliance in the HoC didn't put Brexit to bed. We have malignant cunts in Labour like Kate Hoey and Caroline Flint to name a couple which is another of the ressons why the Lib Dems aren't comfortable with this Labour Party. But right now we are where we are and the focus of attention is to destroy an already battered and bruised Conservative Party. Both the SNP and the Libs Dems put it fantastically two days ago; "No need to talk about coalitions as our main intention is to stop Brexit. Brexit is bad for the UK and the target is to fill the House of Commons with as many pro-EU remain MPs so that no matter the outcome, we will achieve our objective for the good of the union."

Mate, I don't like the fact the Lib Dems said they wouldn't form a coalition with a Corbyn led Labour Party. I think it's a ridiculous statement to make in the present climate when there aren't even any results to scrutinise now. But right now there is no coalition to talk about and the fighting will only help the Tories. If you want the Tories out... FOCUS ON THE TORY PARTY!

The point he's making mate is that this bickering and cat-fighting only plays into the hands of the Tories. Not only are they doing it but as I mentioned in a previous post, where all remainers were united in one goal (Labour, Lib Dems and even some very few rare Tories), they've now put on their tribal caps and instead of focusing on each party's campaign in whatever manner they see fit, they spend as much time throwing shit at each other. Forget the fucking Lib Dems if they rub you up the wrong way and just focus on what Labour are offering. Trust me, Ian Dunt is one of the most intelligent political journalists out there with a very moderate outlay in his general work. He's right on this one.

Someone that supports the Tories. A party that agreed a deal with the EU, tried to pass it through Parliament without scrutiny due to the fact that one of the vital bastard details ckntained in it was the lowering of workers rights.

Mate... Forget any talk about coalition! Who bloody cares about that. That isn't the point Ian Dunt is making!