SirBalon

Of course the EU always had most of the leverage. They’re the actual EU for god sake. They’re the ones this is all about without any of it ever having been their fault. In the end, after over 3 years the question is fucking why? Now that we know we always had our sovereignty, that nobody controlled absolutely anything, that were were a big part of every single regulation that defends us as people against those that would take advantage for their own financial benefit... What fucking for? Rant over! Simple... We’re the ones that voted to leave not them us. They hold the cards but they hold them under the fundamental rules of the game, the rules we actually had more than any other EU country in creating.

The deal is a terrible one, worse than May’s Deal. It’s all over the place and for those that care about the Union, it would signify the end of this without a shadow of a doubt. It won’t go through, it won’t be accepted by Parliament on many levels especially on the fact workers rights go out of the window where Labour are concerned. But we could go on and on here especially on the Northern Ireland issue. Junker has said the EU won’t grant an extension were the Commons to vote it down but this is bullshit. An extension is already there in principle but what they’re doing with that statement os double barrelled in the sense that with that their early showing that the EU have shown that it’s not and never has been them why Brexit hasn’t been executed. There has never been any of that shit about needling to have some sort if weapon like No Deal to make a hard bargaining chip as the EU although not wanting a No Deal, it’s the UK who would stand to come out of that situation in devastation and not the EU even if it would inevitably affect them. This is putting pressure on British Parliament to either decide that they really want to leave or the only option that will permit an extension would be a referendum with REMAIN and now JOHNSON’S DEAL. That’s it now! No more faffing around! This country is a fucking embarrassment right now.

There is no bargaining power when you walk away with nothing! in normal negotiations you keep what you have (you know, that thing called the "status quo"), in this case you lose what you had and are left in the wilderness. Now be careful on what you argue regarding that shit about WTO Terms which doesn't exist!

More dive and spivs! James O'Brien actually forgot to add one little nugget of gold to the Milk Quotas regulation that was scrapped in 2016, the fact that those Milk Quotas were for ALL MEMBER STATES! Anyway... Please please please watch this short video... More evidence of idiocy!

Because it's reason number one to fight any form of Brexit, because it's now more than evident that those that continue to maintain this stance are on the main xenophobic bigots who only care about FOM and the house of cards regarding "sovereignty", "a improvement of our lives" or whatever other bullshit reason has collapsed and the only thing that remains is taking away a freedom. The tweet is related to that because that's all that remains. Anyway... Nothing to to do us or this, but a further piece which has a rich geezer stating what it's all about.

That's not exactly the truth. They attacked an area close to a US base. What's factual is that a bombing raid by Turkey has destroyed a prison in Syria and thus releasing ISIS scum. Turkey need to be taught a lesson by Europe. Hopefully this will happen.

I just love all these Brexit related bits and bobs that creep up and offer an overall picture that cements your will to keep the fight going to its limits. This picture I'm uploading is related to the Ben Act passed by Parliament a few weeks back which forced the Government to request an extension for a specific reason which was to cancel out the disastrous No Deal Brexit which would bring the UK to its knees in all sorts of ways. The Government (Boris Johnson) then went around calling it "The Surrender Act" in an attempt to muster up civil unrest in the streets of the UK and in so doing push Parliament to concede due to the threat of violence. I offer you more spivs and divs that have the same right as you to alter your life!

Wonderful work of product placement at a local Waterstones. Couldn't have been done better considering all the books are books being sold at the minute and all interrelated.

I cannot lie and say that I'm not aware of the mongolian connection because I do. Even worse is that I know it's more associated with down syndrome and the physical attributes. All that makes me a sinner but I can assure youbthatvit came out as a figure of speach driven by a sentiment associated with the physical look of an idiot that person has in that photo. All of it when taken into account is what shows and proves how these words are destructive and it is just to try and eradicate them from common vocabulary in situations such as these where they're used. It shows my age I suppose in terms of me finding it difficult to mindset my langauge under the spell of emotion... Hence why emotions and being emotional on important subjects only leads to all sorts of errors be they small or even huge. Cunt is a word I'm absolutely disgusted at and I can tell you now, I haven't used it as much as I have in the past couple of years. Infact I promise you that if I'd used that word more than twice in my whole life previous to these last two years I may be exaggerating. It's the utter importance of the whole issue, the devestating effect that very badly educated people are having on everyone else because they have the same right as all... Their vote and say is as valuable in any calculative term to that of everyone else's. I don't know, but maybe the Greek philosophers (one of them) may have had quite some justification to feeling the way they did.

Very true. Wasn’t thinking mongolians or anything of the sort. Just my repulsive reaction at the sight of such scum. I’ll delete that part although now we have your post. The guy is a cunt. Better left like that.

More spivs and divs... Look at this element's face!!! Cunt? Inbreeding? Who knows!

Spivs and divs are many and they're a ongst us! These people want to take away the rights of EU citizens while they have a right of vote which alters my way of living.

It's "English Exceptionalism" mate. The fact that without any facts the "Leave Campaign" sold Brexit as everything more positive than the current arrangements we had by being a part of the European Union proves this. It was based on nothing tangible, nothing relating to the rules and regulations of being a Member State, rules and regulations we helped and sometimes headed in their creation decades ago.

There's no doubt that 'Remain' now leads the polls in a very convincing manner with lessons learned after the errors from previous polls back then. There are also big groups on social media that belong to those that have changed their minds from 'Leave' to 'Remain'. But that's not even the biggest reason for another referendum although it does obviously count and is used heavily by those pushing for a "People's Vote". As @RandoEFC stated in his previous post, the fact democracy is an ever evolving exercise with more detailed analysis always coming to the fore with also the fact of Leave breaking Electoral Law. This doesn't mean that endless referendums have to be exercised forever, but what's for sure is that we now know a hell of a lot more not only that any type of Brexit is worse than being an EU Member State and that No Deal Brexit is catastrophic for the country on many levels and the only questionable part on that is how catastrophic it would be with obviously all state sectors vying to fight against the worse case scenario. So now we're pretending that the deliverable Brexit is desirable when it isn't. If No Deal Brexit is what these Brexiters that can't change their minds even now wanted all along, why are your heroes now desperately trying to blame the European Union for the fact Boris Johnson's Deal CANNOT be accepted on many legal levels? These are the questions that I used to believe would be very powerful and convincing, but they don't work. Now these people are ADAMANT that they voted for a No Deal Brexit all along when in actual fact a No Deal Brexit was never even mentioned in the 'Leave Campaign' ever, not even once... Infact the first mention of a No Deal Brexit didn't crop up until 7 months AFTER the 2016 Referendum. With even Nigel Farage now saying that the only "Proper Brexit" is a No Deal Brexit and where HE infact banded about a Swiss Style model or the Norway+ Model which in actual fact aceepts and has FOM (Freedom of Movement) as part of their relationship with the EU. Ignoring his own mouth, his own words and continuing to have listenting and believing ears from these Brexit fanatics. The best one I've heard during these three plus years is "You just have to BELIEVE more, just BELIEVE!" and that somehow REALITY would change. How can WE AS A COUNTRY have ended up enthralled to a man who said WITH A STRAIGHT FACE in the first months of 2016 that we can "Have our cake and eat it!". That is literally the definition of a ludicrous delusion. The problem is you CANNOT have your cake and eat it because Boris Johnson never thought he was going to lose and have to be held to account and end up speaking with even more abandonment than he usually employs. So where is the German car industry? Where are the French Champagne or Italian Prosecco producers? All these people that were going to REFUSE to let us leave and if we must, it'd be with the "Greatest deal in history" because they NEED our money! That they were going to let us re-write EU laws and have our own personal dispensation that nobody else would ever be able to achieve if they also decided to leave the EU. I just don't know how EVEN TODAY anyone could've ever have seen how this could all ever end any differently. Not after more or less 7 or 8 months after the 2016 Referendum which is where I changed my mind dramatically as I suddenly saw the massive error I had made. Remember that the 'Leave' CAMPAIGN (a "campaign" is what's used to convince people to put an 'X' in a particular box for your vote) sold Brexit as something great and benefitial to name a few... (these were some of the slogans used) Easiest Deal In History Have Our Cake And Eat It The German Car Industry Won't Countenance Any Brexit Without a Great Deal £350m A Week For The NHS Take Back Control Sovereignty I could bloody go on forever with those shitty slogans. I bet the Brexit extremists aren't enjoying the amount of sovereignty we've had all along with our Parliament and our Courts of Justice! For anyone to say say there isn't a God given right to have another referendum after all that bullshit, I'll never know what more can convince even the thickest amongst our 60 million.

I don’t agree mate. They WANT No Deal for a myriad of reasons and one of them is that there are certain people that stand to make a hell of a lot of money and they’re putting pressure on the Government. Boris Johnson’s own sister alluded to this too.

Let's ignore dumb cunts especially the racist xenophobic dumb cunts and watch this video I'm posting now. There is ONLY one thing that's RIGHT! Both can't be right, it's never been that way on anything and it ain't starting now.

Totally agree with you mate. When the leave side drape themselves in those flags it doesn't have an untoward message mixed in it. When you see those demonstrators with union jacks and even worse, the cross of Saint George, it sends a whole different message. When some remainers try to be diplomatic by adding some modum of wrong doing by their own, they're being overly diplomatic Because remainers haven't done anything wrong or stand for anything untoward as a unit. There is a big big difference in significance under the same masquerade.

As Ancelotri said this summer just finished... "Wages are what marks projection and what you're ultimately judged on these days"

I don’t understand your post. Are you suggesting May’s Deal should be implemented as a form of Brexit?

No! That's NOT what you've been saying at all. At the start of this debate you tried to put the blame solely and squarely on Unai Emery ffs. You have just agreed with @Devil-Dick Willie Who has literally just posted what I did but in different words. Anyone that's balanced can see these things as he has.