SirBalon

Because the Lib Dems know as well as anyone that the great majority of Labour MPs and Labour members are pro-remain. The Liberal Democrats have been in talks with high profile Labour shadow bench members for months in attempting to convince Jeremy Corbyn to back one of his own people for interim leader, an opportunity that went begging as there were even Tory rebels that would've agreed to someone like Kier Starmer for example. THIS Lib Dems aren't anti-Labour, they're anti-Corbyn because he is the reason the remain alliance in the HoC didn't put Brexit to bed. We have malignant cunts in Labour like Kate Hoey and Caroline Flint to name a couple which is another of the ressons why the Lib Dems aren't comfortable with this Labour Party. But right now we are where we are and the focus of attention is to destroy an already battered and bruised Conservative Party. Both the SNP and the Libs Dems put it fantastically two days ago; "No need to talk about coalitions as our main intention is to stop Brexit. Brexit is bad for the UK and the target is to fill the House of Commons with as many pro-EU remain MPs so that no matter the outcome, we will achieve our objective for the good of the union."

Mate, I don't like the fact the Lib Dems said they wouldn't form a coalition with a Corbyn led Labour Party. I think it's a ridiculous statement to make in the present climate when there aren't even any results to scrutinise now. But right now there is no coalition to talk about and the fighting will only help the Tories. If you want the Tories out... FOCUS ON THE TORY PARTY!

The point he's making mate is that this bickering and cat-fighting only plays into the hands of the Tories. Not only are they doing it but as I mentioned in a previous post, where all remainers were united in one goal (Labour, Lib Dems and even some very few rare Tories), they've now put on their tribal caps and instead of focusing on each party's campaign in whatever manner they see fit, they spend as much time throwing shit at each other. Forget the fucking Lib Dems if they rub you up the wrong way and just focus on what Labour are offering. Trust me, Ian Dunt is one of the most intelligent political journalists out there with a very moderate outlay in his general work. He's right on this one.

Someone that supports the Tories. A party that agreed a deal with the EU, tried to pass it through Parliament without scrutiny due to the fact that one of the vital bastard details ckntained in it was the lowering of workers rights.

Mate... Forget any talk about coalition! Who bloody cares about that. That isn't the point Ian Dunt is making!

The Spectator publishes another racist piece by Rod Liddle, in which he mocks a Labour MP who was a victim of domestic violence, having himself previously been arrested for assaulting his then pregnant girlfriend. You may ask, what's this got to do with Brexit? Well Rod Liddle is one of the standard bearers for all things Brexit and the nationalistic side of "Britishness". His writing is a perfect example of a decent proportion of why many voted Brexit back in 2016 and we've seen this sort of xenophobic, bigoted, racist and misogynistic stuff that papers like thr Daily Mail and the Express have been publishing for decades and even pumping it all up the closer the 2016 Referendum crept closer... We surely remember Boris Johnson when campaigning for Brexit (leader of Vote Leave at the time) saying this about Turkey and Turkish people; Turkey (population of 76m) is joining the EU. Vote Leave, take back control". Something that this month just ending he denied saying but he's on bloody video saying those exact words... Liar! Oops... Johnson a liar? Wel also all must remember the Nigel Farage UKIP Breaking Point poster (something I've mentioned various times before on here, but I shall keep on repeating it all that I feel necessary as Brits should feel embarrassed that their country ever permitted such unadulterated hatred in the form of a political campaign. This poster portraying thousands of Muslims queuing to get into the UK... All Islamophobic and in this case, brown people, all bigoted, racist and in actual fact, fact of facts was AGAIN (as with BoZo's Turkey sentence) bullshit as there is no Muslim EU Member State, there is no EU Member State with brown people as a predominant race and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the UNITED KINGDOM is not in the SCHENGEN (Area) ZONE! which for thickos means that we do not have to accept or abide by any laws which in this case concern mass movements of refugees in search of safety (I won't go into what I feel about the ethical sentiments on that anyway). Lies, lies and more lies... Bullshit galore that al stupid people fell for but fear not if you are one of the stupid, there were even some highly educated people that did so too but then again, being highly educated doesn't necessarily mean pertaining to the marked groups of intelligence, thankfully in reality a large proportion of this fair island. Anyway... To the piece in The Spectator because I am likely and VERY willing to go on and on. Now tell me, who in their right mind would publish such godawful disgusting misogynistic, racist and bigoted shite?

@Dr. Gonzo

Mate, there is no such thing as a remainer that will vote Tory, not THIS Tory Party! What I mean by I have no idea what will happen means in terms of the final result of the GE. Right now it looks more like a Tory victory and I’m afraid that there isn’t a bit more time so Boris Johnson can fuck up some more which he inevitably would do. These Liberals won’t form a coalition with the Tories and there is as much point in asking them as there is in asking for an alliance between Tories and Labour or the SNP and the Tories. No point in the question as the Lib Dems have been digging even more into the Tories over the past months than even Labour. What pisses me off are tribalists from any side especially both Labour and Lib Dems. For months they’ve been working in tandem on social media as well as even pro remain journalists. Now this cat firght has started which is childish and extremely low in intelligence. Of course the Lib Dems cannot win an election and they’ve said that they can’t form a coalition with Corbyn, not the Labour Party although obviously that’s the term used. It’s Corbyn that they don’t trust as they’ve spoken to people like Starmer, Jess Phillips and a couple of others recently when it was in the air of an interim leader. How many Tories are out there that won’t vote Conservative because of Boris Johnson amongst a couple of others. There are a number of them, I even know a few.

It’ll be interesting to see which are the extreme racist and xenophobic areas if and when they emerge from any pact.

It matters not how I come across mate, at least not to me. The content is the only thing that matters and this is a free speech portal to refute those arguments. I use the most basic form of making people understand reality, the only reality which in most individuals it would jerk a reaction of correction. To those it doesn’t execute this important fix, then we know exactly what they’re about without even requiring questions asked.

Farage is pacting with Johnson to removing competition from those seats paving the way for ease in important areas.

Eeerm.... Excuse me, what time are the riots again? Happy Independence Day to all of you.

Look, I get what you're saying and I find it as abhorrent as you do (many do) on what they did when that Clegg run Lib Dems Party got into bed with the Tories. But you shouldn't be selling lies where they don't exist as unadulterated lies are what this version of the Tories are all about and they're being called out on them every hour on the hour... There is no way in hell this Lib Dems Party are getting into bed with the Conservatives and that's a fact. They're completely opposed and all of this cat-fighting won't help. It's bad enough from a "remain" perspective that the Brexit Party are rumoured to be paving the way for a Tory victory by standing aside on maybe more than 100 seats without all of this bullshit being spouted. Read and listen to what the Lib Dems are consistently saying right now by smashing the Tories at every given moment. But I do also want to castigate them for entering this (I repeat) cat-fight by also slipping the odd remark against the Labour Party every now and then (Labour a reciprocating in turn with their own, shame on them!) because ultimately they're all in this for one reason, power. I have no idea how you stand on political ideological terms but there does seem to be a rather clear line making itself evident with your comments on this which is fair enough, we're all free to feel, think, and act upon our own particular beliefs, but let's keep it honest. You, I or anyone doesn't have any idea what the future holds and creating hypothetical outcomes that have no basis of truth on the present is frankly absurd and damaging. We can all bring out errors of the past and Labour have their own depending on how old you are and how far back you can go. Now is now! We should stick to attacking the Tory Party as their victory (looking more and more likely by the day) will destroy the fabric of this country in terms of the working classes. Watch this...

Those are all assumptions by either using historic errors or nit picking at certain aspects of recent times. Shall we look at Labour's record on Brexit over the past three+ years? This current Lib Dem lot have attacked (and continue to do so) the Tories as much as Labour.

This picture of me was taken in my wife's Neapolitan town of Sant 'Antimo and I'm posting it because this was the moment of my reflection after voting to leave the EU and moving from 3 months in Galicia to finish my contrition in Italy. I had just finished conversing with the local mayor and priest of the town where they made me see I should never punish myself for something that isn't an error but infact a passage in my life to understanding reality.

I'm not giving up but what I do know is that a General Election does NOT sort out Brexit at all where the people's wishes are concerned right now. A People's Vote should've been executed first, get Brexit out of the way whichever way it goes and then use a General Election for what it's meant to be which are policies for local people and to undo the damage 9 years of Tory Governments have done. Even though Brexit will be a big part of the campaign jargon for all parties, we know there are safe seats and is there really any point in a remainer or a leaver voting in a respectively closed safe seat on their wishes? NO! Of course there isn't! To make matter worse we have to take into consideration why we are in this Brexit mess in the first place (ignoring David Cameron's ruinous idea to implement the referendum in the first place so as to save the Tory Party from UKIP and in-fighting)... These are the reasons and this is why it's over unfortunately... Labour and the Lib Dems will not just be fighting the Tories in the GE, they will be fighting: BBC LBC TalkRadio Times Telegraph Daily Mail Metro London evening standard Sun Daily Express Taxpayers alliance Newsnight Question Time Marr show Nick Ferrari Farage Robinson kuenssberg Pierce FIGHTING EACH OTHER!!! et al

Tbh I've got my plate full with work and campaigning in my local area when I'm not at work with also giving my family as much of the very little time I have remaining these days. Football has come a distant thing for me in recent times where I've even been giving my season ticket at Arsenal to colleagues at work to watch games. Hopefully I'll have more time after mid December, but for now it'll be sparse.

So the HoC have voted down Johnson's December 12 General Election after not obtaining a two thirds of the chamber. They're bickering over a number of days which tells us how divided they are, as divided as the nation. The good thing is that this Government is on its last legs, its legs are wobbling and they need just one last jab on the nose to collapse like a house of cards. Boy would I love to see that but I'm sure there'll be a consensus for a GE soon enough although I prefer to see the Tories get more blows to finish them off for a decade at least.

So many celebrating the EU's A50 Extension and I am confused as to what it achieves other than to be able to comfortably troll Boris Johnson, Michael Gove et al due to their statements. Other than that it only brings on a GE and as far as I'm concerned there are only two outcomes... A hung Parliament which achieves more mayhem or a narrow Tory victory and Brexit with an immediate far-right UK world which for me personally is unliveable. An open pathway for Brexiters to troll Remainers which tbh is what it's all about for them now as it's now established that there are no tangible benefits to leaving the EU, the total contrary.

I just bought this so I’m not currently reading it as of yet. I’ve had people on my back telling me to read it due to the fact I thoroughly enjoyed James O’Brien’s ‘How To Be Right In a World Gone Wrong’. Anyway... It’s titled; ’The Basic Laws Of Human Stupidity’ By: Carlo M. You can get it here at Waterstones https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/carlo-m-cipolla/nassim-nicholas-taleb/9780753554838?awc=3787_1572218952_de3d91da304097442dcfff21718ba06c&utm_source=259955&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=Genie+Shopping

So now that the Lisbon Treaty has been put to bed due to the lies revolving it and the fact it came into effect 2 years ago and what's remaining doesn't effect us... Now they're banging on aboht the milk quotas for all EU farmers that were anolished two years ago.

Incredible... Read this yesterday afternoon and it beggars belief Labour MPs like Caroline Flint who have been sitting with the ERG at Tufton Street (the far right) want to vote for this amongst other destructive things within that deal.

I know why you're laughing at that so I would never say you're a bad person for doing so as I have laughed at other things of a similar ilk to this over the past three years. Not just on the radio but also in my everyday life... I've got a number of anecdotes on the streets, especially on public transport that would either make you laugh in hysterics or cringe at what this country has become. But I'm not going to tell them because they're useless to what I and many others want to achieve, infact it works the other way and makes those that continue to lie to themselves hold firmer and in some cases become even more radicalised. Because there is absolutely NOT ONE SINGLE POSITIVE for leaving the EU. This is FACT! Not one! It's all negative and worse, ranging from bad to disastrous depending which field. This with ANY form of Brexit with obviously No Deal being utter chaos but thankfully most of our Parliament by a decent margin aren't that cuntish. Back to that lady... Don't you feel sorry for her? Don't you feel like wishing the wankers that over the years have made her feel this way should rot in prison for filling her with lies and deception? Even when James O'Brien was calmly trying to make her see where she was making a fool of herself with her main point (because the other ones like the Fish and Chips are just plain idiotic) on Wetherspoons, she wasn't actually disagreeing with James even though she did actually say she was. It was worse than that... She couldn't UNDERSTAND what he was saying. Honestly, SHE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND what James O'Brien was infact saying. There was a block in her mind which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with age that would not let her process the simplicity of what he was telling her and that my friend is called CONDITIONING which comes from methods akin to grooming. Indeed nobody shut her in a room and drilled this rhetorical doctrine into her... She was made to feel it has come from freely available information (freely as far as the price of a newspaper) from whatever medium. James O'Brien could've gone on forever and even made it a private conversation so as to not subject her to public ridicule (remember she was the one that called in) and it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. It's over for her in that sense, she cannot change and I would go so far as to say that if eventually we do leave and things become a lot worse, she will continue to think it's a price worth paying, a price worth paying for what? That's the question! WHAT!

How far back do the Daily Mail's lies, deception and grooming of UK citizens go back? 25 October 1924. The faked Zinoviev letter was published in Daily Mail. It tried to link the Labour party with a Communist revolution plot.