Happy Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devil said: Mate, I hate City, I hate the fact you ducked out of your last charge sheet. I don't deny that fact. I just hope and pray what they have destroys you, I actually had respect for City fans before this money, but since you got it you've all changed. Its been as blatant as day you've broken rules since day one but the fans have blinkered themselves so much its embarrassing. I get that because i hate united and these NEW rules was only put in place to try and stop what other clubs have done before us ..i think the fact most City fans are not bothered is winding everyone up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Storts said: Yeah Chelsea broke football but annoyingly not sure it was illegal at the time. They also seemed to build the income/sponsorship side of things more organically United, Premier League, Serie A, and La Liga broke football before Chelsea did. They laid out the ground work with incredibw spending in the late 90s and early 00s. United dropped 30mill £ each on Ferdinand and Veron in 2002 and 2001. Real spent a total of 77mill € on Zidane in 2001 and 62mill € on Figo in 2000. Crespo, Vieri, Mendieta all cost over 40m € in the late 90s. The mid 00s actually saw a dip in huge transfers until the second round of galacticos with kaka and cristiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: I get that because i hate united and these NEW rules was only put in place to try and stop what other clubs have done before us ..i think the fact most City fans are not bothered is winding everyone up Because you know full well you've broken the rules and your owners will more than likely mop up the situation as usual. Sportswashing, what's the point if clubs like yourself can bend the rules to suit. Your eliminating the competition with money. The Arabs are doing it in nearly all sports, its ruining all sports around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Devil said: Because you know full well you've broken the rules and your owners will more than likely mop up the situation as usual. Sportswashing, what's the point if clubs like yourself can bend the rules to suit. Your eliminating the competition with money. The Arabs are doing it in nearly all sports, its ruining all sports around the world. They are just trying to stop us doing what other clubs have done, that's my problem with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 59 minutes ago, Devil said: News flash..... Our owners are scum, they haven't spent a penny of their whole money since buying the club. They didn't even spend their own money to buy it. That 1 Billion spent is only money we've generated, which marks the difference between our two clubs. Also I'd also like to point out, it's not only player transfers City haven't spent, you've spent multi millions on training facilities and improvements to your stadium...... They haven't spent anything on ours. Don't compare our two clubs, mines and absolute monster of a football club, yours is a fucking shite little plastic club cheating and blagging their way to success. I hope they relegate you down the the National league, its totally deserved. The rules were brought in because they know full well your bent. They've been waiting for this day for the last ten years. And why is Man United rich? Because they enacted predatory TV deals in the 90s with the premier league and Rupert Murdoch, catching lightning in a bottle with a great team and manager during the period of mass globalisation of English football where it was sold as a product to foreign markets. Man United was literally the right place, the right time. United’s popularity and power is more thanks to Rupert Murdoch and David Beckham and than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Spike said: And why is Man United rich? Because they enacted predatory TV deals in the 90s with the premier league and Rupert Murdoch, catching lightning in a bottle with a great team and manager during the period of mass globalisation of English football where it was sold as a product to foreign markets. Man United was literally the right place, the right time. United’s popularity and power is more thanks to Rupert Murdoch and David Beckham and than anything else. So what's your point. We made our money through popularity and the players we had, what's new. Thanks for enlightening me on how my football club became so popular and so rich. It had nothing to do with the fact we are the biggest club in England with the biggest fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: They are just trying to stop us doing what other clubs have done, that's my problem with it No, they are trying to stop you cleaning up the league and ruining it for everyone else. You won't see that though because your blinkered. Liverpool have just had their best side for 30 years and you denied them their period of success, they should hate you more than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Devil said: You won't see that though because your blinkered And so are you mate, City has been living off its own generated money now for about 7 years, i can see a Super League being formed if this witch hunt carries on, other clubs have been allowed to invest in there club but it's wrong when we do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devil said: So what's your point. We made our money through popularity and the players we had, what's new. Thanks for enlightening me on how my football club became so popular and so rich. It had nothing to do with the fact we are the biggest club in England with the biggest fan base. Can’t see the forest for the trees. I don’t know what to tell someone so in denial about how Murdoch, Sky, and the Premier League manufactured Manchester United to be the flagship of a product sold to consumers. There is nothing organic about the how and why of Manchester United, preferential TV slots, the lion’s share of sponsor and advertising money, the flagship whore of plastered over the world, forced into the spotlight by a media conglomerate that then created an athlete more famous than the club itself. Funny how a system that is built to facilitate the growth of a megaclub tends to do this. It is almost like Man United were the only team that received any marketing internationally, I wonder why? Maybe because the biggest English media company in the world had a vested interest in the Premier League and skewed a heavy bias towards one club… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 It is okay when Man United, Everton, Tottenham, Arsenal, and Liverpool, breakaway from the FA to form the Premier League to have predatory TV rights deal that literally take away money from the rest of English football, but it is bad when Man City have outside financial doping. Grow up guys. If you can’t see your own club for the poison that it is, you’re in denial. The absolute arrogance of some fans to out down other’s when their team is equally as guilty for the landscape of English football is astounding. The First Division money was literally reinvested into the entirety of English football, Premier League money only divided between Premier League clubs and not even evenly. For a culture that is keenly aware of classism, it is strangely defensive of the ‘old boys club’ that is football clubs. Blathering on about history and prestige like some crusty ponce sitting in his country side manor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Spike said: Can’t see the forest for the trees. I don’t know what to tell someone so in denial about how Murdoch, Sky, and the Premier League manufactured Manchester United to be the flagship of a product sold to consumers. There is nothing organic about the how and why of Manchester United, preferential TV slots, the lion’s share of sponsor and advertising money, the flagship whore of plastered over the world, forced into the spotlight by a media conglomerate that then created an athlete more famous than the club itself. Funny how a system that is built to facilitate the growth of a megaclub tends to do this. It is almost like Man United were the only team that received any marketing internationally, I wonder why? Maybe because the biggest English media company in the world had a vested interest in the Premier League and skewed a heavy bias towards one club… I wonder why.... Because we are the biggest club in England, because we are the most marketable club in England and because we are the most know English football club wotld wide. Also we hit our mega success at just the right time. Are you expecting me to apologise for us being so marketable and rich because of sky's, interest in us??? Get a grip, get some perspective. If your just being a cunt, that's fine but if your trying to draw comparisons with City then don't bother, whatever way you try to paint it our financial growth was organic. Just so you know, if you look back on history United were the first English club to win the European Cup, we had the Busby babes (anniversary today god rest their souls ) and we also vad Georgie Best. We were the biggest before the great success, that's why half of London supported us. Sorry if that upsets your anti United agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Devil said: I wonder why.... Because we are the biggest club in England, because we are the most marketable club in England and because we are the most know English football club wotld wide. Also we hit our mega success at just the right time. Are you expecting me to apologise for us being so marketable and rich because of sky's, interest in us??? Get a grip, get some perspective. If your just being a cunt, that's fine but if your trying to draw comparisons with City then don't bother, whatever way you try to paint it our financial growth was organic. Just so you know, if you look back on history United were the first English club to win the European Cup, we had the Busby babes (anniversary today god rest their souls ) and we also vad Georgie Best. We were the biggest before the great success, that's why half of London supported us. Sorry if that upsets your anti United agenda You don’t get it at all. If you think this is an ‘agenda’ you are sorely mistaken. If you step back and wonder why United is the most famous club in the world and your answer is ‘cuz we are da best n da biggest’ you have no idea how media, marketing, or even the Premier League works on a fundamental level. Busby Babes and George Best have nothing to do with the globalisation of English football in the 90s, the strangulation of grassroots football, the commercialisation, the transition of supporters into customers. The Premier League was a tool to crush the smaller teams for the benefit of the wealthy clubs, there is nothing organic about how and what happened in the 90s, that was the death of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, Devil said: I wonder why.... Because we are the biggest club in England Not anymore your not, you living in the past ..your not even the top earners in the league, that's City as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Inverted said: Perhaps Man City making tits out of UEFA with their stupendously expensive legal team and uber-aggressive litigation strategy has backfired, in the sense that the PL have watched, learned, and waited until they've got a mountain of charges before doing anything. Also the government have pushed back their announced white paper by two weeks, PR move by then to grab headlines. The PL is flexing muscles here to appear as if they can regulate themselves, they’ve had to go all in on city, timing isn’t coincidental this is a power move 3 hours ago, MUFC said: What if they win this year? Serious question? UEFA must be thinking about suspending them as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Club statement, the clubs not worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Fairy In Boots said: What if they win this year? Serious question? UEFA must be thinking about suspending them as we speak. Prove we have done anything wrong before dishing out punishments, what happened to innocent on tell proven guilty? Man City deny all alleged breaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just found out the charge sheet against us has numerous errors on and has had to be changed already with the FA bringing false allegations about the club which City's legal team has already shut down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 No doubt we won't hear anything for another half decade. Look at how swiftly they're dealing with Ivan Toney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Happy Blue said: Club statement, the clubs not worried That’s what you do though, you tie authorities up in counters complaints and appeals to buy you more time and make the process harder so you won’t be brought to justice. Old city fans before the money were proper football fans, now you’re all just spoiled kids, all the titles in the world means sweet fuck all, what respect there was is just eroded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: No doubt we won't hear anything for another half decade. Look at how swiftly they're dealing with Ivan Toney. They are a joke, they have already messed up any legal action as they are basing there finding on hacked emails which could be doctored, snippets pieced together etc. i've spoken to people close to the matter last night and nothing they have will hold up in a court of law and City have irrefutable evidence as they say in the club statement that everything is legal within the rules and above board, we are a very well run business and the top earners in the game because of it, the FA couldn't even get the opening statement correct ..we are getting sick of this slander tbh, the gloves are off now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Fairy In Boots said: That’s what you do though, you tie authorities up in counters complaints and appeals to buy you more time and make the process harder so you won’t be brought to justice. Old city fans before the money were proper football fans, now you’re all just spoiled kids, all the titles in the world means sweet fuck all, what respect there was is just eroded. Innocent on tell proven guilty, what you have just said is slander. City have irreputable evidence of no wrong doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Innocent on tell proven guilty, what you have just said is slander. City have irreputable evidence of no wrong doing And this is why people will revel in your downfall, utter shit club. The footballing equivalent of Lance Armstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Fairy In Boots said: And this is why people will revel in your downfall, utter shit club. The footballing equivalent of Lance Armstrong We are not going anywhere mate, they have nothing on us as we haven't done anything wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: We are not going anywhere mate, they have nothing on us as we haven't done anything wrong Mate I know first hand how dirty a sport it is, uefa had you, you got out on a technicality due to time. It’s like being pissed up and driving at 60mph in a 30 and getting caught by a speed camera but the letter didn’t come through for 6 months so no longer valid. It doesn’t make you innocent just that you got away with it, you will be caught eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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