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UEFA Consider Cap On Agent Fees

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Uefa is considering imposing a cap on agents' fees following scrutiny of payments made to players' representatives.

It was found Premier League clubs paid £220m in agents' feesduring the 2016-17 season - an increase of 38%.

Alexis Sanchez's agent, Fernando Felicevich, received a reported £15m in the Chile international's recent transfer to Manchester United.

Uefa will consider a cap in a bid to "introduce more transparency".

Last summer, Jorge Mendes - Cristiano Ronaldo's agent - took a £7m cut of the transfer fee Manchester City paid for goalkeeper Ederson.

Mino Raiola was reported to have received £23m from Paul Pogba's move from Juventus to Manchester United in 2016 while Kia Joorabchian is rumoured to have received a substantial amount after brokering Philippe Coutinho's recent move to Barcelona from Liverpool.

Uefa confirmed in a statement its Professional Football Strategy Group, which consists of key stakeholders in European football, had endorsed a strategy to "shape policy change... by potentially adding a cap on fees, introducing more transparency/accountability, and appropriate sanctions in case of infringement of the rules".

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42797542

 

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Good direction to go in and the next step is a cap on transfer fees followed after that by a cap on wages.

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On 24/01/2018 at 13:17, SirBalon said:

Good direction to go in and the next step is a cap on transfer fees followed after that by a cap on wages.

I think something needs to be done. Football is becoming more and more predictable with the same teams winning respective leagues because of more financial muscle. Personaly I'd like some kind of rule where teams can only spend so much per window and it is adjusted for inflation.

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A wage or transfer limit would have to be extremely low to have any meaningful effect. 

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1 minute ago, Kitchen Sales said:

A wage or transfer limit would have to be extremely low to have any meaningful effect. 

Not necessarily. If it was say £100 million. The top 6 in England could all afford it and it would be more even

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45 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said:

Not necessarily. If it was say £100 million. The top 6 in England could all afford it and it would be more even

£100m transfer fees or wage bill? 

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No way a £100m transfer cap as that’s out of sorts with reality. People have become immune to all of this... £50m and I feel perverse with that and set the wage cap at £80k PW all over Europe.

All of this breaks free market rules which is why it can’t be implemented due to so many clubs being PLCs.

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Or just scrap agents altogether because Footballers are grown men at the end of the day and should be able to negotiate a deal without their hand being held and profiting the bank accounts of people like Kia Joorabchian. 

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Just now, Smiley Culture said:

Or just scrap agents altogether because Footballers are grown men at the end of the day and should be able to negotiate a deal without their hand being held and profiting the bank accounts of people like Kia Joorabchian. 

One of the stupidest posts I've ever read.

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1 minute ago, Blue said:

One of the stupidest posts I've ever read.

Yours comes in second as it gives no reasoning, or any counterpoints. Quite literally shit post 4chan level.

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Just now, Spike said:

Yours comes in second as it gives no reasoning, or any counterpoints. Quite literally shit post 4chan level.

Hey, second is better than first

Its a stupid post because the argument that they are grown men is borderline retarted. Most players in South America, Africa and even some from Europe didn't finish or even go to school - and they lie all the bloody time.

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You won’t find many if any players or anyone not having gone to at least elementary school in Europe. But as for Latin America and Africa, that’s a whole different ball game.

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Just now, SirBalon said:

You won’t find many if any players or anyone not having gone to elementary school in Europe. But as for Latin America and Africa, that’s a whole different ball game.

Phil Neville, though.

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Just now, Spike said:

Phil Neville, though.

He’s the exception! xD

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3 minutes ago, Blue said:

Hey, second is better than first

Its a stupid post because the argument that they are grown men is borderline retarted. Most players in South America, Africa and even some from Europe didn't finish or even go to school - and they lie all the bloody time.

Neither did plenty of successful businessmen. Didn’t stop them from earning a very decent living. 

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2 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

You won’t find many if any players or anyone not having gone to at least elementary school in Europe. But as for Latin America and Africa, that’s a whole different ball game.

That's why I said some in Europe. I'd say most players here in South America go to elementary as well, but finishing it is different and they are man children. They can barely handle themselves - never mind a negotiation

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Just now, SirBalon said:

He’s the exception! xD

There are rumours of the one the big Castilla alumni being illiterate. My bet is Carvajal. :o

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2 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Neither did plenty of successful businessmen. Didn’t stop them from earning a very decent living. 

Unlike them - footballers dedicate to playing football or doing whatever the hell they want. Not business FFS

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Just now, Blue said:

Unlike them - footballers dedicate to playing football. Not studying business FFS

You think people who didn’t finish school who went on the be successful in business studied business? You realise that you’ve just said that, don’t you? 

 

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Just now, Smiley Culture said:

You think people who didn’t finish school who went on the be successful in business studied business? You realise that you’ve just said that, don’t you? 

 

I edited it. My point was they dedicate to what they want to do.

I'm a terrible student and I'm still in college. I have a journalism job about 5 years before I've finished my career because I dedicate to that and not studying. Footballers can barely handle themselves, I'd doubt they'd be able to negotiate on their own.

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6 minutes ago, Spike said:

There are rumours of the one the big Castilla alumni being illiterate. My bet is Carvajal. :o

I doubt that mate as it’s law and I’ve lived in Spain where the educational law is even more stringent than in the UK and works better.

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Just now, SirBalon said:

I doubt that mate as it’s law and I’ve lived in Spain where the educational law is even more stringent than in the UK and works better.

I don't when the wtory comes straight from a Castilla graduate

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3 minutes ago, Spike said:

I don't when the wtory comes straight from a Castilla graduate

Remember that these players are tutored at their respective clubs in their academies by the best teachers mate.  Look at Iniesta who comes from a diminutive Castilla La Mancha village and went to university.  As for other alumni away from football’s riches, well as I said, it’s law and in the respect of education, the law is very strict in Spain.

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32 minutes ago, Blue said:

Hey, second is better than first

Its a stupid post because the argument that they are grown men is borderline retarted. Most players in South America, Africa and even some from Europe didn't finish or even go to school - and they lie all the bloody time.

I'm pretty certain there is lots of paper work and plus agents have more contacts.  I doubt footballers without agents would work in the modern world. I mean you can't really let a laymen handle multi million Pound contracts

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Just now, SirBalon said:

Remember that these players are tutored at their respective clubs in their academies by the best teachers mate.  Look at Iniesta who comes from a diminutive Castillo La Mancha village and went to university.  As for other alumni away from football’s riches, well as I said, it’s law and in the respect of education, the law is very strict in Spain.

It a direct source though, I even showed it to you before

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Just now, Blue said:

I edited it. My point was they dedicate to what they want to do.

I'm a terrible student and I'm still in college. I have a journalism job about 5 years before I've finished my career because I dedicate to that and not studying. Footballers can barely handle themselves, I'd doubt they'd be able to negotiate on their own.

Football doesn’t last forever and unless you’re lucky enough to play in one of the big leagues across the world, of which there aren’t many and thus, the chances of making it in one and earning enough to not have to worry about work or the boring stuff like bills and mortgages are slim, the chances are, you’re going to have to work at some point in your life, whether that’s before, during or after your playing career, or in most cases, all three. 

If they are not sharing their time between Football and something outside of the game that brings in an income and allows them to build a family and have a relatively stable life, I sympathise with them. It’s a poor choice, if you ask me, but that’s my opinion and some would question that.

Maybe that’s part of the problem in this country. Football clubs pick up children as young as 5 and 6 and then for them, whether that’s their own decision or that of their parents, Football becomes their life till their anywhere between 16-18. For most, and it’s publicised in numerous articles in the UK, they are let go by their club between those ages above and because they’ve solely concentrated on the pipe dream of a short lived career in Football, they have nothing to fall back on. 

Anyway, I’m digressing, but I think it’s irresponsible, as Emmanuel Eboue’s current situation has proven, not to have some sort of control on your negotiations and your finances if you are a Footballer and I really don’t see why, unless you’re a Messi or a top player who’s got sponsorships, affiliations and all sorts of money making deals around you, you’d need/want an agent. 

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2 minutes ago, Spike said:

It a direct source though, I even showed it to you before

That’s got to be an anomaly though.  You’d that with Carvajal’s massive Teflon forehead he’d at least be literate.  How did he get through Real’s educational system?

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10 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Football doesn’t last forever and unless you’re lucky enough to play in one of the big leagues across the world, of which there aren’t many and thus, the chances of making it in one and earning enough to not have to worry about work or the boring stuff like bills and mortgages are slim, the chances are, you’re going to have to work at some point in your life, whether that’s before, during or after your playing career, or in most cases, all three. 

If they are not sharing their time between Football and something outside of the game that brings in an income and allows them to build a family and have a relatively stable life, I sympathise with them. It’s a poor choice, if you ask me, but that’s my opinion and some would question that.

Maybe that’s part of the problem in this country. Football clubs pick up children as young as 5 and 6 and then for them, whether that’s their own decision or that of their parents, Football becomes their life till their anywhere between 16-18. For most, and it’s publicised in numerous articles in the UK, they are let go by their club between those ages above and because they’ve solely concentrated on the pipe dream of a short lived career in Football, they have nothing to fall back on. 

Anyway, I’m digressing, but I think it’s irresponsible, as Emmanuel Eboue’s current situation has proven, not to have some sort of control on your negotiations and your finances if you are a Footballer and I really don’t see why, unless you’re a Messi or a top player who’s got sponsorships, affiliations and all sorts of money making deals around you, you’d need/want an agent. 

I'll tell you something - I've never actually worked with a footballer before but I've worked with Scouts who have and they've told me that footballers are hell to work with. That they don't enjoy it because they are very irresponsible as you mentioned, and often can't be trusted because they lie all the time.

Agents are trained and that's why they are needed in the modern game. Especially with all the money that is thrown around and homesickness as well as marketing the player. Its not just negotiations. I had a chat with Pier Larrauri's agent (ex Leicester) the other day for example who told me more than what I already knew.

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1 minute ago, SirBalon said:

That’s got to be an anomaly though.  You’d that with Carvajal’s massive Teflon forehead he’d at least be literate.  How did he get through Real’s educational system?

I sent you the article months ago. But it stated there was a 'bearded young man, at the back of the class surrounded by peers some years his junior'. It also stated that while education was a necessity by the time class started the kids were already exhausted from morning practices, and hwile the standards of educstion was high kids didn't really learn. It was really about tearing down the façade.

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5 minutes ago, Spike said:

I sent you the article months ago. But it stated there was a 'bearded young man, at the back of the class surrounded by peers some years his junior'. It also stated that while education was a necessity by the time class started the kids were already exhausted from morning practices, and hwile the standards of educstion was high kids didn't really learn. It was really about tearing down the façade.

Send it to me again mate please... ;)

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