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AC Milan - owned by Silvio Burlesconi Inter Milan - owned by billionaires by Pellegrini and then Moratti Juventus - Owned by bilionaire Agnelli family since forever Real Madrid - floated by Spanish banks Manchester United - constant owner funding wince 1912. Several times preventing bankruptcy. Wouldn’t exist without doping, would have folded 100 years ago. Liverpool - owned by the Moore family, one of the richest in the UK for over fifty years. Bayern and Barcelona are owned by fans, but I don’t think there is a single doub today that has never taken ‘outside’ finances. In fact most of these clubs were founded by rich English people.

None of that matters and you know it. The only thing that matters is marketing, and Chelsea are more marketed and currently more famous than Arsenal. Trust me from an international angle on this one mate, I’ve been everywhere man and I’ll tell you Chelsea gets waaay more attention. I get your angle as a Pom and looking at the landscape of Lundin but we can’t pretend it is the ‘English’ league when it is an International league based in England and Wales. You know I don’t buy into the ‘earned it’ nonsense, so for me personally I don’t know why you’d bring it up. If we were talking in 1962, I might agree with you. Right time, right place, during the rapid monetisation of the sport. The players and staff still had to work to win it,

That's your age talking. You grew up when Arsenal were a force, a cool club with superstar players and a superstar manager. Ask the Gen Zer and they'd say Arsenal are a rung below, nestled next to Tottenham, closer to West Ham than Chelsea, Liverpool, United, and City.

I was looking at Playsation magazine covers from the late 90s and early 00s earlier. How sad is that I got a surge of endorphins when I saw a couple I read as a kid

I had the first two on DVD. Watched them all the time. Fuck I wish I was 10 still

Pull your heads in, get a grip, there is now ay that the FA would allow losing one of their biggest international brands.

One of the stupid jokes my grandfather used tell me all the time @Bluewolf What do you have when you have two large green balls in your hands?

Maybe you have had it, you wouldn't know if you were asymptomatic

The RAT said no COVID but I'm still sick as fuck.

Yes but have you seen this picture? All criticisms rescinded.

Don’t celebrate yet, the interview went well but I’m not outta the woods yet

Packaging beer

You are such a classic codger This is the sort of shit my grandad would say

Not to mention his absolutely stacked Milan and Chelsea teams. Despite his overwhelming success he is a bit of an underachiever in some ways. One league win with Kaka, Shevchenko, Maldini, Costacurta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Cafu, Nesta, Seedorf, Costa, Inzaghi, Crespo, Staam, and so on. It's pretty bad to get one league win with players like that.

Been meaning to watch it for yeara

Yeah I had the feeling I was getting the wrong impression, that is why I wasn’t being overly critical or accusatory, I even deleted a heap of stuff., but I still probably came off as aggressive even though I wasn’t trying to be, I think I can just write too bluntly. It is easy to do when something so intense has been smashed out in a few minutes

I was thinking this guy has some mad self loathing, which isn’t atypical. They powers do like to make you think that way

@Danny to me it just seemed like you came into the thread to say ‘them fucking working class whities, hate em’ I was just thinking ‘geez mate calm down’

I wasn’t being serious

Fair enough

Also this is the Australia thread, take the English problems to the UK thread

You pointed out a very specific group as having a trait you dislike. You also said they were one of two main groups, which implies to me no other groups have large issues with being racist. Mate, your South Asian friends could have been doing the exact same thing when the white guys weren’t around, you just wouldn’t know because your only privy to experiencing the racism of the group you belong to. To me it seems like you are unfairly pigeonholing a group of people based on your own experiences, which is pretty much racism. Not that I think you are at all, but it makes all he people in that group that don’t feel that way hard done by. I know this feeling becuase being from the bush you are automatically assumed to be dumb, drunk, and racist, unlike they oh so refined suburban and urban dwellers. Did you also assume that all the people with the One Nation signs in my hometown are white, working class, and uneducated? I think you would have, and you’d be wrong.

Why do they have to be white working class? I think that is nonsense and a racist thing to say in itself.