LFCMike

I feel like people have gone way overboard on their criticism of Liverpool the last few weeks. It was always meant to be a transitional season but the desperation to win the title and more in Klopp's last season has skewed opinions I feel.

I personally think he's worth another season although the social media thing and recent body language may suggest he's been told he's off. I'm not having that his misses alone are the reason Liverpool are out of the title race because a) other players have missed big chances and b) look at some of the goals we've conceded recently. People love a scapegoat though. It's easy to be blinkered by recent form because he and the team were very good for much of the season. No he's not been as good as we'd have hoped yet for the price tag but he's also not as bad as he's being made out to be by some.

They won't drop a point now. Kind of glad we're out of it now, be arsed missing out by a point again

Think the Liverpool one is sound myself.

Was he fuck but if he was then he should put the ball out of play. Taylor called on the physio to cover himself. Anyway that's not the reason we didn't win but it's just yet more incompetence/cheating from Greater Manchester referees. Gakpo should have put the ball in the net to make more of an issue of it

Taylor blowing up when Areola releases the ball is just blatant cheating. There's no reason for him to blow his whistle

I mean it's not like playing with 10 men. His all round play had improved loads this season and he's been good overall. Obviously his finishing is a real issue and he was awful all round last night but let's not be silly.

Of course I was angry last night, even draw against that lot in any circumstance is enough to do that. It was probably gone before last night though if we're being completely realistic. I don't believe there was anything cocky about my post, I think i provided a pretty balanced view of why things might have gone the way they have. Nunez's finish last night was awful and he's fast running out of chances, even with those who have been the most patient with him. I never believe that players down tools though, as you've suggested Salah has there. Certainly not in the situation Liverpool have been, players wouldn't do that. There's much more to it than that simplistic view. Fitness, maybe the weight of expectation of the fairytale ending for Klopp or inexperience of these situations (obviously not the case for Salah) are much more likely reasons for this drop off. Keep using extreme words to describe them though.

Wasn't necessarily aimed at you, even if I do disagree with your opinion on those players to a degree. The previous page mentioned 'the entire lot of them' being a 'joke', 'fed up with the lot of them', 'mass clear out' were some of the phrases used. How is that not throwing toys out of the pram?

It was literally about to be leaked which is why Klopp announced it when he did. As for some of the posts from Liverpool fans in here, talk about throwing your toys out of the pram. Last night was really poor but throwing words like 'disgrace' around about this season and talk of mass clear outs, I don't get it. We've fallen off a bit of a cliff the last few weeks, why I'm not sure. We got through the period where we had loads of injuries really well and you sort of expected us to kick on more when we got some of those players back but it hasn't happened, maybe some of them have been rushed back, I dunno. This season was always meant to be a transitional one and few expected Liverpool to be in the title race with a month of the season left. They've fallen away at the wrong time, just like Arsenal did last season but it's a learning curve. Look how much better Arsenal are at this point compared to the same time last year. There's not many left from the side that won the league with Liverpool so this is a new experience for many of them. I still think the new manager has a really good base to build from. Certain people going to extremes again though wanting most of them sold.

Someone won't have a job in the morning https://twitter.com/JLFC892/status/1769483223527002356/mediaViewercurrentTweet=1769483223527002356&currentTweetUser=JLFC892

You're embarrassing you. Your club is a billion pound in debt

I don't know. They have all the info on the players fitness etc. wouldn't have been an issue if we'd have seen it out or put the game to bed in normal time like we should have done. Wouldn't have wanted him playing 120 minutes either though would you?

Klopp explained that. He was going to bring Salah off but Clark got a knock

Don't think Gakpo is the level of the other four but he's still decent.

He's just come back from injury, obviously being careful with him after playing 90 in the week.

We've got 5 players on 10+ goals? Scored 3 there today, no idea how we've lost that. They're fucking shit.

Reports are he's set to be named in the squad. Well deserved but ffs, don't want him near it at this point in the season

Ffs left him on the bench in FPL this week

What VAR has done is give referees an excuse to not make big decisions. Then they can hide behind the 'not clear and obvious' or 'it's a high bar to overturn a decision' lines for subjective calls

Did they ever show a proper replay of City's goal? Was convinced it went out of play before it came back in at the time

Fair point, I suppose you only have to look at players who have left Liverpool under Klopp. I still think he's leaving a really good squad but yeah probably a bit of both

Mad how people wrote Van Dijk off after last season. Even early this season there was people who had doubts. He's still just as good as before his injury for me. The one on one with Haaland was incredible,

I think when you consider we had our second choice keeper and fifth choice centre back, it's an excellent performance. I was worried they'd target Quansah today but he was brilliant. What a squad Klopp is leaving for the next man