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I don't think he's necessarily out of form though. Maybe not as eye catching as he was early in the season but he's still playing his part. Thought he was really good the other night. Physically he's brilliant. Hopefully his injury isn't too bad and he can be back for the next league game.

Injury news from Klopp's press conference Klopp confirmed Andy Robertson is still "not close to returning to training" and has a "long way to go" in his recovery from a shoulder injury. He added: "I think the full January he has to get closer and closer." On Alexis Mac Allister, Klopp said: "We will see what he can do today if he can return to team training or not." When asked about a possible return soon for Thiago, Klopp said: "At one point he will be in team training (in January). We have to be sensible. It's a medical decision. He is in a very good moment but we have to make sure we don't use him too early."

Sorry to hear that. Hope there's some good news on 2nd January and next year is better

You just said trophies, didn't specify what they had to be the other two were Super Cup and Charity Shield. I don't count the Charity Shield but I'm counting it for the purpose of this argument

Errrrr Houllier's Reds in 2001

Yeah I agree it probably won't come to that, someone else will probably see an opportunity to invest in a Premier League club like FSG did with Liverpool when we were heading for administration. I think Everton are in a much worse situation than we were back then though so who knows

The article I read from him the other day makes sense though. If the 777 takeover isn't approved then where's the money coming from?

That Esk fella has been saying the same thing. Evertonians shot him down when he was criticising Morshiri years ago

I don't think he has a chance of getting a punditry job, probably why he's gone so big on this. He'll have his own show on one of the right wing news channels soon enough

Matip has ruptured his ACL so more than likely played his last game for us. Shit that, he was hitting some good form too.

I stopped at 'far left BBC'

Klopp confirmed both Diogo Jota and Alisson will miss Thursday's match after picking up injuries against Manchester City. He said Alisson will probably also miss Premier League games against Fulham and Sheffield United while Jota will be "a little bit longer".

It surely doesn't matter how much you've overspent by? If you're over then you're over. Love how you are all concerned with City's cheating now though when it wasn't an issue when they were denying Liverpool titles

Is it totally disproportionate? We won't know cos no club has ever been done for this before. And we don't know what other clubs have coming to them yet. If other clubs are found guilty and get away with punishments that don't fit the crime then it's wrong but we need to see the outcome of those. People need to stop comparing the situations with Everton and City. It's like saying 'why is that shoplifter already in prison when that serial killer hasn't been to trial yet'. Totally different situations. I hope City get done proper if they're found guilty

The best thing about this is Everton fans not criticising the owner and those running the club they've not shut up about fucking them over for the last few years. Now the Premier League is corrupt. If it was me I'd be wondering how those running the club has got them into this mess. Fair enough question why others haven't yet been punished or if they will be (they are still under investigation) but you have cheated. It's irrelevant if you're bad at cheating.

Follow your local Sunday league team. It's a great laugh, no one takes it too seriously. Honestly, I've started doing that on a Sunday and it's fucking great. Love Sunday's and if Liverpool are playing on a Sunday it just gets in the way

The other clubs are still under investigation. City's case is more complex and are denying everything whereas Everton have been more open to what they did

Exactly. The only reason they got off without any sort of real punishment was the time barred bollocks. No such thing with the Premier League

It hasn't yet but if they go on to win the next few having already won 5 of the last 6 the PL is no different to some of the other leagues with the same team winning it every year

City winning the league every year does nothing but impact negatively on the 'best league in the world' brand so they should be keen to nail them.

Unfortunately they'll still stay up even with the 10 deducted. Love how concerned Blues are with Man City's cheating now though after lapping it up over the last few years

There's been a manslaughter arrest over the death of Adam Johnson. I've not seen the incident but was under the impression it was just a freak accident?

Sure we were linked with him but too long ago

I watched the first 3 last week and couldn't get into it. Might go back to it at some point. Watched the second series of Time on iPlayer the other night. That was good.