True Blue Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, carefreeluke said: Quality order. I'm probably doing a dis-service to Alonso with having Baba there and Zhirkov, Baba has barely played and wasn't in Conte's plans, we still don't know what sort of level he is. Furthermore, it's probably a fair point that Alonso has offered more to the club compared to Zhirkov but if Zhirkov was at the club instead of Alonso when Conte came in, I'd argue Zhirkov would have offered more. If we're looking for other positives (I'm scraping the barrel here) about Alonso it's his height which you have to say in this league is a factor. I'd go this way (quality - contribution) 1. Ashley Cole 2. William Gallas 3. Wayne Bridge 4. Ryan Betrand 5. Marcos Alonso 6. Zhirkov 7. Felipe Luis 8. Baba Rahman Also i despise Gallas after his departure, but credit where it's due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, True Blue said: I'd go this way (quality - contribution) 1. Ashley Cole 2. William Gallas 3. Wayne Bridge 4. Ryan Betrand 5. Marcos Alonso 6. Zhirkov 7. Felipe Luis 8. Baba Rahman Also i despise Gallas after his departure, but credit where it's due. If you're judging the full backs on their performances for Chelsea, then fair enough, I agree with your list entirely. I was taking into account less their performances in a Chelsea shirt but more the overall quality of the player. One of worse things we did in recent years was getting rid of Filipe who has been one the key attacking players for Atlético Madrid, he struggled at times in a Chelsea shirt but overall never got enough playing time, he would have worked well in our current system. Filipe never got sufficient game time in which we could judge him more fairly, it was always games here and there. Quality player. Azpi was also a left back for us for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Yeah only performances, but saying that Cole is top in every scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Le Saux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Liquidator Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Luke, What about Asier del Horno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Le Saux? About to mention him, I'd throw him above Alonso as well but I was very young and remember very little of him performance wise. One I'll ask my Dad for. Or @Bluewolf @The Liquidator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, The Liquidator said: Luke, What about Asier del Horno? I'd have Alonso above Del Horno easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Cicero said: Le Saux? Wasn't on the list but bellow Cole on second for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Del Horno was terrible, maybe worst on that list apart from Baba who really didn't get a fair chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Cannabis said: What actually happened with Baba? He seemed to arrive and depart overnight. Another dodgy buy, played for around 20 games. Then went to Schalke where he suffered a long term injury. He returned to the club but still out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cannabis said: What actually happened with Baba? He seemed to arrive and depart overnight. Was a toss up between Sandro and Rahman at the time. Emenalo chose the latter. Thank fuck he's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Liquidator Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I was a fan of Le Saux. Outstanding going forward, more than adequate defending when his above average speed got him out of trouble. His left hand side partnership with Babayaro was a highlight of that team which produced most of our attacking. He would be 2nd only to Ashley for me and to add to that Babayaro would also be in the mix of top 5 left backs. Gallas was a CH who got pissed at playing LB which contributed to his moving. He and John were the best pairing of CH I have seen in 40 years of watching all football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 Fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I'd say he's a better driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 He was again shit against City, he was raped before Kovačić and Willian dropped deeper to cover his slow ass. Sarri just doesn't drop Jorginho and Alonso who are both very poor, they are black mailing him 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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