Stan

Outta nowhere!

Game 29 - 30th Game 30 - 22nd

GAME 29 - MEXICO vs AUSTRALIA - SUNDAY 10th SEPTEMBER, 03.00 (BST) GAME 30 - KAZAKHSTAN vs NORTHERN IRELAND - SUNDAY 10th SEPTEMBER, 14.00 (BST) ***any predictions made after kick-off will not count*** @DeadLinesman @Mel81x @Lucas @6666 @Dr. Gonzo @Michael @Redcanuck @Devil @Pugwash @Reluctant Striker @CaaC (John) @Beelzebub @Devil-Dick Willie @JoshBRFC @Viva la FCB @Pyfish @Bluewolf @Tommy @Rucksackfranzose @OrangeKhrush

7 goals across the two games, and 3 winners but they were all in the second game... Game 27's first of four goals was in the 71st minute, but no winners. And Game 28's first of three goals was in the 17th minute: 3 points! 2 points 2 points Table after Game 28: A 2nd exact score means that I go up into 1st place, overtaking @6666. @Michael now joins 4 other players on 5 points, and @Redcanuck doubles his tally but remains in 14th place.

One can hope!

I've just watched the programme back. Thought it was good but next step is to have every decision aired... Onana - Man Utd vs Wolves Says its late and clumsy, off the ball collision. Seems to be that Dawson heading it means the VAR changed their own mind. VAR official almost seemed to be on the right track to at least send the ref to the monitor for a review. Bad call acknowledged by Webb/PGMOL. And should have been a penalty. What annoyed me is that the ref on pitch automatically dismissed it as 'no way...just a normal collision...'. Anyone watching it could see it wasn't! Van Dijk red card - Newcastle vs Liverpool Officials got this correct on the pitch. And in the VAR room. No issue there as all the reasonings for a red were present. John Egan - handball vs Man City This is correct because Egan's hand wasn't grounded and his arm was up by his side. Not sure there was much of a debate here, or that there should have been. Not sure I agree with Webb saying Egan smacks the floor knowing it was a penalty, more that it's been given as one, normal frustration of the player. Manuel Akanji offside vs Fulham Annoying that Akanji was clearly noticed as being in the line of vision. But they deemed him stepping away. Even though that in itself would clearly put the goalkeeper off. I think it clearly impacts the keeper. He makes a motion to kick the ball as well but is just late. I think it's not even that much of a tough call because the hesitation. All well and good Webb saying its clear to see it on the programme, but why does an official not see it during the game. It's not like the footage is different from the weekend to last night. @Danny agree that it's not spoken about publicly but this is what literally everyone has wanted from the start - clear communication of decisions. Kai Havertz penalty vs Man Utd Think this was also a good decision on the day. Referee would have been hard pressed on the pitch to dismiss the initial penalty claim. Minimal contact but initiated by Havertz. If there's contact by Wan-Bissaka's first step across then 100% a penalty. But there wasn't. Good use of VAR for me. Zaroury red card vs Man City VAR correctly upgrades this as its dangerous play. Studs halfway up the back of Walker's calf and it's reckless. Scraped down a little too. Don't get why there'd be any debate about this (if there was). Need more programme like this for now to clear up some decisions. But hopefully the actual need for them isn't required because a) we'll hear the comms at some point during the game and b) there won't actually be any controversies.

Fingers crossed he can recover fully! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66732868

I agree. VAR is clearly here to stay so I just hope they continue to look into how they can make it better with it's functionality and application. I think if they wanted to try and restore confidence and get rid of the 'I didn't want to piss my mate off' that Mike Dean instilled recently, they should get independent VAR officials in place. Ones that are detached from any referees and perhaps individuals who have played the game. How you take away the bias if that was the case is another aspect to consider. But PGMOL's priority (aside from publishing these VAR communications) should be to eradicate controversies created week after week.

Most of the time. Because they want it to work quickly and probably know the immense pressure they're under...

They've randomly brought it forward to today

Is it me or were these concerns about Antony already raised about a year ago, perhaps longer? Or has he been abusive again and this is a new set of incidents? I remember having a discussion with someone on here about the doctors as well like Gonzo mentioned.

Bear in mind a lot of squads do change a lot for the EFL Trophy, as it's sometimes not seen as that important compared to league, and managers often rotate to give players a chance, as opposed to going full strength.

I doubt it, and you wouldn't be that far behind us even if you did start

Theatre of nightmares at that club right now...

More proof that this government just doesn't, and never has, care about the people it governs over...

Sancho not happy at all

Game 27 - 29th Game 28 - 17th

GAME 27 - LITHUANIA vs MONTENEGRO - THURSDAY 7th SEPTEMBER, 17.00 (BST) GAME 28 - NETHERLANDS vs GREECE - THURSDAY 7th SEPTEMBER, 19.45 (BST) ***any predictions made after kick-off will not count*** @DeadLinesman @Mel81x @Lucas @6666 @Dr. Gonzo @Michael @Redcanuck @Devil @Pugwash @Reluctant Striker @CaaC (John) @Beelzebub @Devil-Dick Willie @JoshBRFC @Viva la FCB @Pyfish @Bluewolf @Tommy @Rucksackfranzose @OrangeKhrush

A first half goal in each game for this round, but only one winner. Game 25's was close to half-time, with a 43rd-minute first goal but there were no winners. Game 26's was a bit earlier, in the 27th minute. 2 points Table after Game 26: @Dr. Gonzo gets his first points of the campaign and now goes level with @Redcanuck on 2 points.

That looks pretty good.

Back to winning ways! Thanks to Jude Bellingham stoppage time winner!

Mason Greenwood to Getafe.