Stan

Not sure it's a 'rules for everything' kind of stance but since the lockdown or even before, we've pretty much been guided/directed/told what to do by scientists or those in charge - the 'stay at home' message was clear and precise. Now that there's a bit of responsibility given back to the public after 7 straight weeks of one rule, it's a bit of a grey area now it's 'stay alert by staying alert and being at home as much as possible'. But then workplaces are re-opening, golf courses/parks/leisure facilities are slowly opening back up. It's all a bit ambigious. What's the point in opening those places back up (where you can spend unlimited time now) but the message still seems to be 'stay at home as much as possible'. It's one message from one person and another message from a different person ? Trusting the public to use their common sense after 7 weeks of being stuck inside (for the most part) is risky. And who's to say someone's common sense is the same as somoene else?! There's bound to be different levels of someone thinking they're doing the right thing against someone who's not. That's just society. And then it becomes harder to police (literally) because they're at a loss on how/who to fine given the new guidelines. The only clear thing is the 2m apart when sunbathing (!) in a park for example, but how practical is that for the people that choose to do it? For me, it just smacks of government putting responsibility back to the public so that when it all inevitably goes tits up and we see a huge spike in cases 2-3 weeks from now, Boris can say the public didn't abide by guidelines and therefore the conditions on the timeline announced in last couple of days will have to be changed. It's all well and good asking the public to take responsibility but where is the government taking responsibility for all the shortcomings they've made? The PM suggesting 'take it on the chin, let the virus pass through', the lack of PPE in certain areas, preferring to give contracts of ventilators to manufacturers of things totally different just because there's a link to someone works in government, the mixed messages from government throughout (we even had Raab say on Monday morning something totally different to that announced by Boris the night before). There's no culpability any more. I know during the middle of the crisis it probably isn't the right time to analyse etc but I hope that inquiry afterwards on how it was all managed from start to finish is a strong and effective one. Everyone can see how many mistakes have been made - the people in charge need to take some responsibility and ownership of it all. It isn't just the public who show poor judgement. Ranted on a bit, sorry

Ha - I used to remember going on family holidays and waiting for the pictures back! There's always more blurry ones than not and there's always the ridiculously bad close-ups or bad portraits. Or ones where the finger just got in shot and it's made it blurry as well

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Something for @MUFC?

Don't forget, we're meant to use all of our common sense together to get through this...

Wasn't he editor at the time?

@Tommy

Disgusting how Sturgeon is treated as well. The other day Kay Burley was interviewing her then they cut her off just to say hello to Matt Hancock as he walked in to Downing Street, as if any kind of politician was gonna get into any kind of discussion there. Have you seen how quickly they rush in?!

Furlough scheme extended to October.

What did you get banned for?

I don't think Piers is a nice guy at all, even though I've found myself agreeing with the points he's been making recently (surprising as I thought I'd never agree with him). He's making the same points he would as the people he used to criticise which is somewhat ironic. And I don't think you can ever be called 'a nice guy' the moment you start hacking a dead girl's phone I love that he's taking the government to task whenever they appear on GMB (which they've stopped) but I'll be honest if he interviewed me like that I'd stick 2 fingers up at him and walk off. But then that's what he wants. He's almost a troll - he wants a reaction and it's win-win for him - if he gets a reaction or raises his voice, he gets his headlines; if someone does walk off, that's a win. If someone so much as makes a decent point though he's ready to talk all over them. That for me isn't 'interviewing' and actually comes across rude. I'm glad he's having a go at some MPs though. It's more than any other journalist does on those boring & awful daily updates now. Like some journalists there were asking the most stupid questions and were easy wins for Boris/Hancock/any minister to answer.

Anyone else watch the BT Sport documentary on the 1985 Valley Parade fire ? Very moving of course. Teared up a lot hearing some of the stories and accounts of people saving each other, but obviously also very sad hearing those accounts by family members who lost a relative.

Chelsea fan now?

@nudge came first...

Am I a Schalke fan now?

Fantastic news about your uncle!

Pretty sure it's fake - it's Daniel Radcliffe with a wig and all the Harry Potter books...

Morrisons near me has been fine whenever I've gone. Same for Lidl. Not touched Tesco which usually would before COVID came along. But the queue is constantly massive so cba waiting.

I'm guessing because some makeshift masks that aren't PPE standard might be less useful in eliminating the threat of passing it on. Using hand-sanitiser has been the advice usually given out to help protect you from getting the virus ? At least it's another layer on the hands for the virus to get through?

Standard to expect now...

More corruption and punishments, this time from Afghanistan https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/52609990