Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rick said: None, preferably. Jannik Vestergard is better than all of Liverpool's defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spike said: Jannik Vestergard is better than all of Liverpool's defenders. The ones on the pitch, sure. But being better than them really doesn’t say much about his quality. 29 minutes ago, Rick said: This is going to end up 1-1. Can just fucking see it. Just feels like so many other matches we’ve seen this season where that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: The ones on the pitch, sure. But being better than them really doesn’t say much about his quality. Just feels like so many other matches we’ve seen this season where that happens. When was the last time Robertson and Arnold were in form? Genuine question, they've look crooked for ages now. I was never that into Van Dijk either but that statement causes people to be upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spike said: I was never that into Van Dijk either but that statement causes people to be upset. Take your meds. In answer to your question, this whole season. Trent had a couple of games around the time he got dropped for England where he looked really goo, but he’s regressed again. Robertson hasn’t been terrible this season, but he hasn’t been good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Rick said: Take your meds. My point proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Spike said: My point proven. Nooo, I’m not upset I’m just concerned for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spike said: When was the last time Robertson and Arnold were in form? Genuine question, they've look crooked for ages now. I was never that into Van Dijk either but that statement causes people to be upset. A while ago. Trent was in decent form after the horror show at the beginning of the season for a bit up until Henderson got injured. Tbh Henderson usually fills in the gaps for the fullbacks bombing forward, especially Trent - but us playing a deeper line with a midfield that’s not got much energy in it beyond Fabinho has really changed both of them. This season’s made it really clear that Klopp’s Liverpool might have good players, but it’s all about the system. Too many cogs in the machine have broken down and it all looks pretty shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Rick said: Nooo, I’m not upset I’m just concerned for you. I don't even think he is bad, just that I don't think he is as good as everyone fellates him to be. 'bruh dis guy should be winning the balon d'or, for real cuz' He is strong, fast, and good in the air which leads to goals. He is no better than Sergio Ramos and he was never near the balon d'or. People just got a stiffy over a string of good games, like how Stan got a stiffy over Foden the over day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,012 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Hahaha, imagine just ignoring the body of evidence of Liverpool pre-Van Dijk, Liverpool with Van Dijk and Liverpool this season and then coming out with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: A while ago. Trent was in decent form after the horror show at the beginning of the season for a bit up until Henderson got injured. Tbh Henderson usually fills in the gaps for the fullbacks bombing forward, especially Trent - but us playing a deeper line with a midfield that’s not got much energy in it beyond Fabinho has really changed both of them. This season’s made it really clear that Klopp’s Liverpool might have good players, but it’s all about the system. Too many cogs in the machine have broken down and it all looks pretty shit I said it before but people didn't really take my seriously. I do believe the Klopp burnout is real, and it isn't just Klopp. I think Guardiola and Mourinho also tend to ask to much from players and burn them out. I think that is why after spending three billion squid on fullbacks, no matter what they look like shite at Man City, because Guardiola is too demanding on that role, and they are either just never going to be that good, or they get burnt out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Hahaha, imagine just ignoring the body of evidence of Liverpool pre-Van Dijk, Liverpool with Van Dijk and Liverpool this season and then coming out with that. You're acting like a twat, where did I say that he wasn't a great player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,012 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Spike said: I don't even think he is bad, just that I don't think he is as good as everyone fellates him to be. 'bruh dis guy should be winning the balon d'or, for real cuz' He is strong, fast, and good in the air which leads to goals. He is no better than Sergio Ramos and he was never near the balon d'or. People just got a stiffy over a string of good games, like how Stan got a stiffy over Foden the over day. Messi 686 Van Dijk 679 I mean that's pretty close I think I've misread this post @Spike. Ignore me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spike said: I don't even think he is bad, just that I don't think he is as good as everyone fellates him to be. 'bruh dis guy should be winning the balon d'or, for real cuz' He is strong, fast, and good in the air which leads to goals. He is no better than Sergio Ramos and he was never near the balon d'or. People just got a stiffy over a string of good games, like how Stan got a stiffy over Foden the over day. I’ve never seen a defender come into a new side and make an impact like Virgil did with us when he joined, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,012 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Spike said: You're acting like a twat, where did I say that he wasn't a great player? Just a string of good games. I mean, that's a purple patch isn't it? Not turning a side into domestic and European contenders over the course of two and a half seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Thank. Fuck. Timely first goal for Thiago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, LFCMike said: Messi 686 Van Dijk 679 I mean that's pretty close I wasn't talking about the vote count, smartarse. Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: I’ve never seen a defender come into a new side and make an impact like Virgil did with us when he joined, tbh. That doesn't mean he is hands down the best player in the world! You bastards just read what you want to read and get all worked up by a differing opinion that isn't even that different. Bloody hell, I say he is as good as Sergio Ramos, one of my favourite defenders of all time and apparently that isn't enough praise. God forbid, I think that Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, and a few others are just head and shoulders above the rest, so much so that players like Ramos and van Dijk would never get close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Get the fuck in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, LFCMike said: Just a string of good games. I mean, that's a purple patch isn't it? Not turning a side into domestic and European contenders over the course of two and a half seasons Yeah you're right, it was just van Dijk that did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Spike said: I wasn't talking about the vote count, smartarse. That doesn't mean he is hands down the best player in the world! You bastards just read what you want to read and get all worked up by a differing opinion that isn't even that different. Bloody hell, I say he is as good as Sergio Ramos, one of my favourite defenders of all time and apparently that isn't enough praise. God forbid, I think that Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, and a few others are just head and shoulders above the rest, so much so that players like Ramos and van Dijk would never get close. I think he was one of the best players in the world that season where he was ranked as one of the best players in the world. And I’m not worked up, I’m just talking with you. Dunno about everyone else, but I’m cool as a cucumber because I’ve been resigned to me just wanting the season to be over for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 To be fair @Spike you did come out with a couple of statements that couldeasily be perceived as you not thinking he was a great defender. I’m not going to argue any of your points though, I think most people acknowledge that he’s not as good as Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Dr. Gonzo said: I think he was one of the best players in the world that season where he was ranked as one of the best players in the world And so was Michael Owen! Andres Iniesta is possibly one of the best midfielders ever and never got as many votes as van Dijk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,012 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Spike said: Yeah you're right, it was just van Dijk that did that. He was a huge factor. Liverpool don't reach the Champions League final in 2018 without him. And then they probably don't have the pull to beat others to Alisson and Fabinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Well that’s a relief after that second half. Really did look like the Leeds/Newcastle games all over agin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Spike said: And so was Michael Owen! Andres Iniesta is possibly one of the best midfielders ever and never got as many votes as van Dijk! I don’t do the voting? Blame UEFA or the players themselves, or whoever does do the voting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,107 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, LFCMike said: He was a huge factor. Liverpool don't reach the Champions League final in 2018 without him. And then they probably don't have the pull to beat others to Alisson and Fabinho What ifs don't convince me about stuff like that. If Liverpool didn't sign van Dijk, Labour would have won the last election and Corbin would be the PM. Can't prove that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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