Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Stan said: Bournemouth were 2-0 down to Forest, and then came back to win 3-2. They have only won one game out of 7 since then. Weird, huh. Because they did that against the bottom club who were thrashed by Arsenal. That's Bournemouth, not Tottenham. Two teams with vastly different pedigrees, histories and traditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chickasaw said: Because they did that against the bottom club who were thrashed by Arsenal. That's Bournemouth, not Tottenham. Two teams with vastly different pedigrees, histories and traditions. Ah, so the parameters change depending on team(s) involved. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Pedigree, history and tradition counts for fuck all these days. Just look at United. Pedigree, history and tradition haven’t won us a trophy for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, DeadLinesman said: Pedigree, history and tradition counts for fuck all these days. Just look at United. Pedigree, history and tradition haven’t won us a trophy for years. In your case it's different because you had the world's most successful manager for a long long time and those since just haven't matched him. If you had Pep or Klopp the good times would come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Stan said: Ah, so the parameters change depending on team(s) involved. Got it. Yes, I would say so. Look at us now we have a top man, third in the PL and winners of our group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chickasaw said: Yes, I would say so. Look at us now we have a top man, third in the PL and winners of our group. I had a look to see what happened to your form when you won 3-2 at our place last season (the 2 late Bergwijn goals). You lost your next 3 league games. Have you never noticed that a period of good form normally follows after a team comes back to win 3-2 after being 2-0 down So your team with lots of pedigree, history and tradition (as if no other side has this either), didn't have a period of good form after winning 3-2 late on... Let's take another side that arguably has pedigree, history, tradition - West Ham. They beat you 3-2 after being 2-0 down in October 2017. They didn't win for another 6 games after that. Yes, I am that bored to look at results that far back . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Stan said: I had a look to see what happened to your form when you won 3-2 at our place last season (the 2 late Bergwijn goals). You lost your next 3 league games. Have you never noticed that a period of good form normally follows after a team comes back to win 3-2 after being 2-0 down So your team with lots of pedigree, history and tradition (as if no other side has this either), didn't have a period of good form after winning 3-2 late on... Let's take another side that arguably has pedigree, history, tradition - West Ham. They beat you 3-2 after being 2-0 down in October 2017. They didn't win for another 6 games after that. Yes, I am that bored to look at results that far back . But it often does happen Stan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chickasaw said: But it often does happen Stan. Go for it. Show me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, Stan said: Go for it. Show me I don't have the time Stan, I'm going into work. But I've often seen it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chickasaw said: I don't have the time Stan, I'm going into work. But I've often seen it happen. No worries, I'm happy to wait for when you do have the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Stan said: Go for it. Show me But you're wrong Stan, Spurs did not go 2-0 behind last season to you, only 1-0, 1-1,2-1. 2-2, 2-3.....sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stan said: No worries, I'm happy to wait for when you do have the time. Just answered you, Spurs did not go 2-0 down against you. Look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, Chickasaw said: Just answered you, Spurs did not go 2-0 down against you. Look back. That doesn't actually prove your point though Happy to admit I got that one wrong. But I'll wait for you to show me where 'it happens often' that a team goes on a good run of form just because they recovered from 2-0 down to win 3-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Lucas Moura should without doubt be starting ahead of Richarlison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Danny said: Lucas Moura should without doubt be starting ahead of Richarlison I've already admitted that perhaps with Moura I've missed something recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stan said: That doesn't actually prove your point though Happy to admit I got that one wrong. But I'll wait for you to show me where 'it happens often' that a team goes on a good run of form just because they recovered from 2-0 down to win 3-2. That's you and Storts both wrong within one day of each other but at least you're man enough to admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Chickasaw said: I've already admitted that perhaps with Moura I've missed something recently. Moura's hattrick against Ajax proved he has the big game mentality that Spurs need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Danny said: Moura's hattrick against Ajax proved he has the big game mentality that Spurs need Stop it Daniel. It’s cruel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Storts said: Stop it Daniel. It’s cruel Not often this sort of fun presents itself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Storts said: Stop it Daniel. It’s cruel You're very arrogant for someone who was so badly wrong about our prospects last night Storts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chickasaw said: You're very arrogant for someone who was so badly wrong about our prospects last night Storts. So BaDlY wRoNg I was about 10 seconds from being spot on An absolutely horrific first half performance devoid of any quality whatsoever. Thankful they rallied and just about did enough. But anyway, tell us more about coming back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 always means a winning run after! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted November 2, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 2, 2022 Gone through previous PL seasons. The following teams won 3-2 after being 2-0 down in the game. Also noted their results after the comeback victory... Man City 3-2 Aston Villa (22 May 2022) - End of season, no further games Everton 3-2 Crystal Palace (19 May 2022) Next game - lost 5-1 away at Arsenal. - Worth noting this was right at the end of the season so not much 'form' to follow... Brighton 3-2 Man City (18 May 2021) Next game - lost 2-0 away at Arsenal - also at end of the season, so 'form' limited.. Southampton 3-2 Burnley (4 April 2021) - in their next 9 games (until the end of the season), they only won 2. The immediate games after this win, they lost 3 and drew 1. - Form after the win - LLDL, or LLLDL including FA Cup. Watford 2-3 Everton (1 Feb 2020) - Form after the win - WLDLD Southampton 2-3 Wolves (18 Jan 2020) - Form after the win - LDDWW Wolves 3-2 Man City (27 Dec 2019) - Form after the win - LLDWL, or LLDDL including FA Cup. Newcastle 3-2 Everton (9 March 2019) - Form after the win - DLLWW Man Utd 3-2 Newcastle (6 Oct 2018) - Form after the win - DWWLD, or DLWWWL including Champions League Man City 2-3 Man Utd (7 April 2018) - Form after the win - LWWLD, or LWWWL including FA Cup Crystal Palace 2-3 Man Utd (5 March 2018) - Form after the win - WWWLW, or WWLWW including Champions League So, they're all the occasions in the last 5 seasons that a team has come back from 2-0 down, to then win 3-2. @Chickasaw you said it 'happens often' that form improves after a team makes that kind of comeback. So 8 occasions in the last 5 seasons (not counting the latest 3 occasions as it was end of the season). 6 of those 8 occasions saw the team lose their next game. 4 of those 8 occasions saw the team winless for the next 3 games. Are you man enough to admit you're wrong too ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, Stan said: Gone through previous PL seasons. The following teams won 3-2 after being 2-0 down in the game. Also noted their results after the comeback victory... Man City 3-2 Aston Villa (22 May 2022) - End of season, no further games Everton 3-2 Crystal Palace (19 May 2022) Next game - lost 5-1 away at Arsenal. - Worth noting this was right at the end of the season so not much 'form' to follow... Brighton 3-2 Man City (18 May 2021) Next game - lost 2-0 away at Arsenal - also at end of the season, so 'form' limited.. Southampton 3-2 Burnley (4 April 2021) - in their next 9 games (until the end of the season), they only won 2. The immediate games after this win, they lost 3 and drew 1. - Form after the win - LLDL, or LLLDL including FA Cup. Watford 2-3 Everton (1 Feb 2020) - Form after the win - WLDLD Southampton 2-3 Wolves (18 Jan 2020) - Form after the win - LDDWW Wolves 3-2 Man City (27 Dec 2019) - Form after the win - LLDWL, or LLDDL including FA Cup. Newcastle 3-2 Everton (9 March 2019) - Form after the win - DLLWW Man Utd 3-2 Newcastle (6 Oct 2018) - Form after the win - DWWLD, or DLWWWL including Champions League Man City 2-3 Man Utd (7 April 2018) - Form after the win - LWWLD, or LWWWL including FA Cup Crystal Palace 2-3 Man Utd (5 March 2018) - Form after the win - WWWLW, or WWLWW including Champions League So, they're all the occasions in the last 5 seasons that a team has come back from 2-0 down, to then win 3-2. @Chickasaw you said it 'happens often' that form improves after a team makes that kind of comeback. So 8 occasions in the last 5 seasons (not counting the latest 3 occasions as it was end of the season). 6 of those 8 occasions saw the team lose their next game. 4 of those 8 occasions saw the team winless for the next 3 games. Are you man enough to admit you're wrong too ? Man enough? One of us here's a woman. My you have done a lot of research haven't you? I'm flattered you should give me so much attention. I'm not going to go back to look Stan..............ok. But if I did I'm certain I could find times when what I've said is right. But again, thank you for the attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, Storts said: So BaDlY wRoNg I was about 10 seconds from being spot on An absolutely horrific first half performance devoid of any quality whatsoever. Thankful they rallied and just about did enough. But anyway, tell us more about coming back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 always means a winning run after! A miss is as good as a mile ay Storts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, Storts said: So BaDlY wRoNg I was about 10 seconds from being spot on An absolutely horrific first half performance devoid of any quality whatsoever. Thankful they rallied and just about did enough. But anyway, tell us more about coming back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 always means a winning run after! Did I say always? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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