Danny 2,206 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) Got to say Carsley has this u21 team firing, not sure I’ve ever seen an England u21 play football this good and also look solid/a unit. Southgate won’t be around forever and this crop of players will be the next to step up. Thoughts? Edited July 5, 2023 by Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 1,192 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,188 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 I also say no. It's a bit different to Southgate making the step up from the U21s, as at least Southgate's got history of being an England player. I think that's got him a bit more ready to deal with the sort of ego that you'd find yourself managing as England manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I also say no. It's a bit different to Southgate making the step up from the U21s, as at least Southgate's got history of being an England player. I think that's got him a bit more ready to deal with the sort of ego that you'd find yourself managing as England manager. I think he’s need a few tournaments minimum at U21 level to impress for the job, not just to show competency at international level but because most of the squad will have been managed by him in some capacity if he were to take over. Not sure the likes of Kane, Sterling etc would give him the benefit of the doubt in the way they did Southgate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,188 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 19 hours ago, Danny said: I think he’s need a few tournaments minimum at U21 level to impress for the job, not just to show competency at international level but because most of the squad will have been managed by him in some capacity if he were to take over. Not sure the likes of Kane, Sterling etc would give him the benefit of the doubt in the way they did Southgate. Yeah if he's staying at the U21s for a while (assuming he always gets them playing at this level), I don't see the problem with moving him to the actual international team as then the vast majority of the players will be pretty familiar with him. I think Southgate having the benefit of being in an England side that actually made it far in a tournament is probably what makes him so well suited to being England manager tbh - I think he knows what he's got to instill in the squad to mentally be ready for going deep into a tournament, even if tactics aren't always the greatest. And tbh I think with international management, simple tactics and good management get you pretty far - so I can understand why Southgate's the best England manager in our lifetimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 No one is actually under 21 in that team though are they? It's like getting to the final of an under 7s cup with teenagers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus 200 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 05/07/2023 at 17:25, Danny said: Got to say Carsley has this u21 team firing, not sure I’ve ever seen an England u21 play football this good and also look solid/a unit. Southgate won’t be around forever and this crop of players will be the next to step up. Thoughts? I wouldn't mind seeing what he can do. Won the euros so why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus 200 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 05/07/2023 at 20:57, Dr. Gonzo said: I also say no. It's a bit different to Southgate making the step up from the U21s, as at least Southgate's got history of being an England player. I think that's got him a bit more ready to deal with the sort of ego that you'd find yourself managing as England manager. I think winning the euros will make up for that. If you are looking at English managers Howe is probably the strongest but I think Carsleys international experience will help. Even if it is u21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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