Michael 1,117 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Ex-Everton footballer Li Tie 'sentenced to life in prison' for match-fixing and £300k job bribe - Mirror Online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted February 23 Subscriber Share Posted February 23 Life in prison for match fixing and giving a bribe? That's completely fucked up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,189 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Unbelievable sentence considering the crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 296 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I can actually remember him, it seems like only in the premier league can you get a light sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,189 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 22 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: I can actually remember him, it seems like only in the premier league can you get a light sentence. China often gives harsh sentences to make an example out of people, usually the less useful you are to the CCP the harsher your sentence will be. But this one seems absurd, fixing matches and taking bribes is bad - but is it so bad you spend the rest of your life in prison? If Jack Ma hadn't made himself important to foreign investors and to foreign investor confidence in investing in China, I'm sure he never would have turned up after disappearing for criticising Xi - and if he did, he'd have lost more than half his wealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 296 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 20 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: China often gives harsh sentences to make an example out of people, usually the less useful you are to the CCP the harsher your sentence will be. But this one seems absurd, fixing matches and taking bribes is bad - but is it so bad you spend the rest of your life in prison? If Jack Ma hadn't made himself important to foreign investors and to foreign investor confidence in investing in China, I'm sure he never would have turned up after disappearing for criticising Xi - and if he did, he'd have lost more than half his wealth. Communism eh, communism and dictatorships walk lockstep with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 10 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: Communism eh, communism and dictatorships walk lockstep with each other. Xi Jinping does not have complete control over China, they may be very authoritarian and do some incredibly terrible atrocities (but so does the west with their supposed ‘liberal democracy’) but they aren’t a dictatorship, he is beholden to party politics and try as western media might to portray it that way, Chinese politics does have factionalism and is far from one uncontested behemoth, and yes there are elements of democracy in the decision making of the one party state, it is a theory called ‘whole process democracy’. Once again you have idea what words mean, a dictator would be closer to Salman, the King of Saudi Arabia, the nation you sycophant because they own your football team. https://thediplomat.com/2023/11/the-power-and-limits-of-xi-jinping/ Edited February 29 by Spike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 296 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, Spike said: Xi Jinping does not have complete control over China, they may be very authoritarian and do some incredibly terrible atrocities (but so does the west with their supposed ‘liberal democracy’) but they aren’t a dictatorship, he is beholden to party politics and try as western media might to portray it that way, Chinese politics does have factionalism and is far from one uncontested behemoth, and yes there are elements of democracy in the decision making of the one party state, it is a theory called ‘whole process democracy’. Once again you have idea what words mean, a dictator would be closer to Salman, the King of Saudi Arabia, the nation you sycophant because they own your football team. https://thediplomat.com/2023/11/the-power-and-limits-of-xi-jinping/ Xi is a wonderful guy, it always take the most woke to try defend what they like. Factionalism, Saudi Arabia is factional and Bin Salman is not king, there are multiple families fighting for power and bin Salman was able to be the last dictator standing. Bin Salman answers to the King so basically the same, but you like one not the other. Wokies seem to be right in there with Islamists and commies useful idiots that can be disposed of when they have realised their usefulness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 50 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: Xi is a wonderful guy, it always take the most woke to try defend what they like. Factionalism, Saudi Arabia is factional and Bin Salman is not king, there are multiple families fighting for power and bin Salman was able to be the last dictator standing. Bin Salman answers to the King so basically the same, but you like one not the other. Wokies seem to be right in there with Islamists and commies useful idiots that can be disposed of when they have realised their usefulness Wokeism is a black American cultural movement and ideal that requires its people to be aware of the implicit biases of the American system against them, it has nothing to do with China. So you just skimmed over the parts where I criticised China, I also don’t recall praising China. In fact I’ve had at lengthly and quite productive discussions with Gonzo about human rights abuses in China, but you wouldn’t know that, would you. I know you didn’t read the article too, I could have posted a joke link and you wouldn’t notice. And yes Salman is the king. Read that I didn’t say ‘bin Salman’, I said ‘Salman’ who is the father and of bin Salman (the prime minister) and absolute monarch of Saudi Arabia, which is not basically the same as the CCP, which is ironic that you’d accuse me of liking one and not the other when it’s very obvious I’m critical of both, but you are in fact the person that’s critical of one while sucking the dick of the other. Words the orangekrush doesn’t understand but uses libertarian communism socialism fascism dictator authoritarian woke anarcho democracy monarchy @Dr. Gonzo @Rucksackfranzose feel free to add more to the list, we can keep a running tally 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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