Devil Posted June 6 Posted June 6 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: 7+ City makes 8 clubs not siding with the premier league No you are the ones challenging the Premier league. That leaves 19 other clubs. You said 8 clubs support your action. That's not true. Two thirds aren't supporting you in your challenge. The other group aren't willing to commit either way. Whatever way you try and spin it, there is a huge lack of support towards City. Edited June 6 by Devil Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 6 Posted June 6 3 minutes ago, Devil said: No you are the ones challenging the Premier league. That leaves 19 other clubs. You said 8 clubs support your action. That's not true. Two thirds aren't supporting you in your challenge. The other group aren't willing to commit either way. Whatever way you try and spin it, there is a huge lack of support towards City. Spin it how you like Quote
Devil Posted June 6 Posted June 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Spin it how you like I'm not you are. 10 hours ago, Happy Blue said: You shouldn't have these problems soon if things go the right way in court. they saying 8 clubs support our action, thats almost half the league 8 teams support you said. That's not true because it's 7 clubs. 7 clubs which haven't committed either way. Also it's not nearly half the league either, it's two thirds of the Premier league against and the other third refusing to commit. Let's just leave it as you talking shit as usual and we will see how your plastic cheating club come out of this. Edited June 6 by Devil Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 6 Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Reportedly, yes. Not confirmed. But I disagree with them if so. Just like every other Premier League club, Everton will short-sightedly stand on whichever side benefits them in the immediate future. The people running the club probably think that if Man City can successfully undermine the PSR rules then we might be able to get away with not selling a player before June 30 at a knockdown price in order to avoid another charge next season. Pure self interest. That's what the league is now. Thankfully, as a mere fan, I'm not obliged to play these political games and can call out that from a moral perspective and for the betterment of the league and English football, every other club should be leaving Man City all the way out to dry, on their own. Fans don't have to blindly back the positions of their clubs at all times. A man can have his own opinion. You should try it some time. I will be glad when things just get back to football rather than all this off field drama. people might not see it yet but this is the start of our 115 defence, the hearing is in November but it starts now for us trying to get these charges thrown out. Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 6 Posted June 6 25 minutes ago, Devil said: I'm not you are. 8 teams support you said. That's not true because it's 7 clubs. 7 clubs which haven't committed either way. Also it's not nearly half the league either, it's two thirds of the Premier league against and the other third refusing to commit. Let's just leave it as you talking shit as usual and we will see how your plastic cheating club come out of this. Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 6 Posted June 6 I wonder how many people know our owners brother committed to giving the UK government 10billion over a number of years a few years back? ..our Chairman is also the managing director of this UAE Group The UK Office for Investment (OfI) and Abu Dhabi’s Mubadala Investment Company, today signed an agreement at Downing Street to significantly expand the UAE-UK Sovereign Investment Partnership (UAE-UK SIP) Over the next five years, the UAE-UK SIP will drive a significant increase in investment across a further three sectors: technology, infrastructure, and energy transition, as well as build on the existing programme of life sciences investment. As part of today’s agreement the UAE has committed £10 billion via the UAE-UK SIP, overseen by the OfI and Mubadala, one of the world’s leading sovereign investors. This builds on Mubadala’s £800 million commitment and the UK Government’s £200 million to UK life sciences when the partnership was established in March. From today, the UAE-UK SIP will become the central investment platform under the new Partnership for the Future bilateral framework, which was also agreed today at a meeting between UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and HH Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed al Nahyan. Khaldoon Al Mubarak, Mubadala Managing Director and Group CEO commented: Today’s expansion of our Sovereign Investment Partnership will help accelerate funding and innovation in key sectors that are foundational to economic growth of both nations. It is a testament to the UK’s innovation economy that we are ahead of target with the UAE-UK SIP life sciences programme, which we announced in March of this year. We are already developing ambitious energy transition, technology and infrastructure investment programmes that create new jobs and strengthen commercial ties between our nations. UK Minister for Investment, Gerry Grimstone: Attracting investment has become globally competitive, and there’s never been a better time to be taking part and investing in the UK. This partnership has gone from strength to strength and its expansion is evidence of its effectiveness and what we can achieve with important trade and investment partners like the UAE through investment. The partnership will expand the exchange of knowledge, skills and ideas that will drive prosperity in both nations. It’s great to see the Office for Investment together with Mubadala Investment Company deliver what we initially set out to do, and expanding into new verticals that will drive economic growth across the UK. Quote
6666 Posted June 6 Posted June 6 6 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: I wonder how many people know our owners brother committed to giving the UK government 10billion over a number of years a few years back? ..our Chairman is also the managing director of this UAE Group The UK Office for Investment (OfI) and Abu Dhabi’s Mubadala Investment Company, today signed an agreement at Downing Street to significantly expand the UAE-UK Sovereign Investment Partnership (UAE-UK SIP) Over the next five years, the UAE-UK SIP will drive a significant increase in investment across a further three sectors: technology, infrastructure, and energy transition, as well as build on the existing programme of life sciences investment. As part of today’s agreement the UAE has committed £10 billion via the UAE-UK SIP, overseen by the OfI and Mubadala, one of the world’s leading sovereign investors. This builds on Mubadala’s £800 million commitment and the UK Government’s £200 million to UK life sciences when the partnership was established in March. From today, the UAE-UK SIP will become the central investment platform under the new Partnership for the Future bilateral framework, which was also agreed today at a meeting between UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and HH Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed al Nahyan. Khaldoon Al Mubarak, Mubadala Managing Director and Group CEO commented: Today’s expansion of our Sovereign Investment Partnership will help accelerate funding and innovation in key sectors that are foundational to economic growth of both nations. It is a testament to the UK’s innovation economy that we are ahead of target with the UAE-UK SIP life sciences programme, which we announced in March of this year. We are already developing ambitious energy transition, technology and infrastructure investment programmes that create new jobs and strengthen commercial ties between our nations. UK Minister for Investment, Gerry Grimstone: Attracting investment has become globally competitive, and there’s never been a better time to be taking part and investing in the UK. This partnership has gone from strength to strength and its expansion is evidence of its effectiveness and what we can achieve with important trade and investment partners like the UAE through investment. The partnership will expand the exchange of knowledge, skills and ideas that will drive prosperity in both nations. It’s great to see the Office for Investment together with Mubadala Investment Company deliver what we initially set out to do, and expanding into new verticals that will drive economic growth across the UK. Now is that to get the UK government to lean on the Premier League to look the other way on Man City's cheating or is it actually something even more serious where they want the UK's support in defending UAE over their involvement in the civil war in Sudan? Your owners really do get up to some terrible shit. Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 6 Posted June 6 54 minutes ago, 6666 said: Your owners really do get up to some terrible shit. I don't agree with any of it but so does our own government and many others around the world, the worlds fucked up Quote
Devil Posted June 7 Posted June 7 (edited) 7 hours ago, 6666 said: Now is that to get the UK government to lean on the Premier League to look the other way on Man City's cheating or is it actually something even more serious where they want the UK's support in defending UAE over their involvement in the civil war in Sudan? Your owners really do get up to some terrible shit. He posted that thinking it was helping his argument and the image of his club. All I hear is City fans saying he's regenerated an area of Manchester. Actually all they did is just built a state-of-the-art training facility. The regeneration thing was to hide the blatant sport washing. Building a new local leisure centre would have been seen as regenerating that area, it was a bloody shit hole, still is a shit hole with a big swanky training facility in it. I'm sure the guys in the council house around appreciate the security huts and fancy new bridge. Edited June 7 by Devil Quote
Devil Posted June 7 Posted June 7 5 hours ago, Happy Blue said: I don't agree with any of it but so does our own government and many others around the world, the worlds fucked up Why post it then? It didn't help your argument. Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 7 Posted June 7 4 hours ago, Devil said: Why post it then? It didn't help your argument. I'm not arguing Quote
Fairy In Boots Posted June 11 Posted June 11 On 06/06/2024 at 15:56, Devil said: I think it was pretty evident what the other Premier league clubs think of Man City when they won the Champions league. Not a single club reached out and offered their congratulations through their social media. Despised within the game, however there is frustration amongst some about PSR as that’s a glass ceiling for the likes of Villa, Everton, Forest & Newcastle Quote
OrangeKhrush Posted June 13 Posted June 13 On 11/06/2024 at 07:49, Fairy In Boots said: Despised within the game, however there is frustration amongst some about PSR as that’s a glass ceiling for the likes of Villa, Everton, Forest & Newcastle Bournemouth, West Ham, Brighton are all hamstrung by spending limits tied to inflation 13 years ago Quote
OrangeKhrush Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Crystal palace and wolves new shirt sponsors being scrutinised for irregularities. https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/crystal-palace-net88-sponsor-b1163996.html Quote
OrangeKhrush Posted June 14 Posted June 14 I see the Premier League folding and coming out with more "representative" spending rules and I see a City/Premier League out of Court settlement with all the charges going poof. Quote
Dave Posted June 15 Author Posted June 15 18 hours ago, Happy Blue said: Half the league support us, Villa next to sue? Needless to say there's a difference between wanting change and supporting a team that's intentionally broken the rules. Quote
OrangeKhrush Posted June 15 Posted June 15 It could all be solved by spending caps, this will drive the cost of players down to say pre-2007 levels, implement wage caps also and push more youth development policies that reward that aspect. Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 15 Posted June 15 4 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: Needless to say there's a difference between wanting change and supporting a team that's intentionally broken the rules. These rules was only put in place to try and stop us doing what Chelsea and other teams did before but what they have done is illegal in UK law. the league needs major reform because the lower table clubs and newly promoted clubs are struggling with these rules too, it's just going to make the premier league weaker and less competitive in Europe Quote
Happy Blue Posted June 15 Posted June 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: It could all be solved by spending caps, this will drive the cost of players down to say pre-2007 levels, implement wage caps also and push more youth development policies that reward that aspect. This is supposed to be to protect clubs from going bust so maybe just have the owners put ex about of millions in a fund equal to the clubs debt. If they can't afford to do that then lower the clubs debt levels ...but we know its not really about that is it, the red cartels are not happy we have gatecrashed the party and soon Newcastle could too when we get these rules changed Edited June 15 by Happy Blue Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted June 15 Subscriber Posted June 15 Half the problem is that nobody can actually explain whether the PSR rules are designed to stop teams from "doing a City" or to stop them from spending beyond their means and going into administration etc. Two very different problems with two very different sets of reasons behind why you'd want to prevent them. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted June 16 Subscriber Posted June 16 On 14/06/2024 at 10:22, The Palace Fan said: Yeah it's disgraceful it's been allowed. What's the back story on this one. Sounds like something similar with Wolves? I saw someone on Twitter saying both teams have signed deals with illegal betting companies. Today I saw people making clearly "lawyered" posts apologising for things they'd said about them so sounds like they've been quite aggressive in trying to control the narrative. The sooner they ban gambling sponsors from football, the better. Quote
6666 Posted June 17 Posted June 17 21 hours ago, RandoEFC said: The sooner they ban gambling sponsors from football, the better. Done after the 2025/26 season. Guessing that's why this is a 2 year deal. Quote
OrangeKhrush Posted June 18 Posted June 18 On 16/06/2024 at 23:08, RandoEFC said: What's the back story on this one. Sounds like something similar with Wolves? I saw someone on Twitter saying both teams have signed deals with illegal betting companies. Today I saw people making clearly "lawyered" posts apologising for things they'd said about them so sounds like they've been quite aggressive in trying to control the narrative. The sooner they ban gambling sponsors from football, the better. I think the questions are more where these sponsors are coming from, there is no website or business listing, and the female used on the brand marketing was a chinese tiktok person that died two years ago. I'm sure it can be sorted with just an official statement. Quote
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