Spike Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Why the turd is the title of this thread so long? Brazilian football not Brazilian Rapeball. Quote
Bravado Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 The thread is now up to date again. Sorry it took me so long. Quote
Samuel Eto'o Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Today's the Classico dos Gigantes derby (Fluminense vs Vasco da Gama). Vamos, pra cima, Fluzao! Quote
Bravado Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 The league kicks off tomorrow. Let's see how it goes! Quote
Guest Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Cannabis said: You into this @Blue? Not a hardcore follower but I do follow it enough to be able to form proper opinions. There is always good talent here. Quote
El Profesor Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Bravado said: The league kicks off tomorrow. Let's see how it goes! Copa Libertadores, as usual, will have a huge impact on determining the destiny of the championship. I fancy Cruzeiro to win this year, they´re in a tough spot in their Libertadores group, but they have a quality team that seem to be more built for that kind of competition, over 38 rounds. Hopefully, my local club, Atlético Paranaense, does well this year. The full schedule for the 1st round. Cruzeiro vs Grêmio tomorrow is definitely the highlight. Quote SAB 14/04/2018 MINEIRÃO 16:00 CRUGRE SAB 14/04/2018 BARRADÃO 19:00 VITFLA SAB 14/04/2018 PACAEMBU 21:00 SANCEA DOM 15/04/2018 INDEPENDÊNCIA 11:00 AMESPO DOM 15/04/2018 SÃO JANUÁRIO 16:00 VASCAM DOM 15/04/2018 ARENA CORINTHIANS 16:00 CORFLU DOM 15/04/2018 BEIRA-RIO 16:00 INTBAH DOM 15/04/2018 ARENA DA BAIXADA 19:00 CAPCHA SEG 16/04/2018 ENGENHÃO 20:00 BOTPAL SEG 16/04/2018 MORUMBI 20:00 SAOPAR 1 Quote
Bravado Posted April 14, 2018 Author Posted April 14, 2018 9 hours ago, El_Loco said: Copa Libertadores, as usual, will have a huge impact on determining the destiny of the championship. I fancy Cruzeiro to win this year, they´re in a tough spot in their Libertadores group, but they have a quality team that seem to be more built for that kind of competition, over 38 rounds. Hopefully, my local club, Atlético Paranaense, does well this year. The full schedule for the 1st round. Cruzeiro vs Grêmio tomorrow is definitely the highlight. Don't you consider Palmeiras firm favourites to take the title? Quote
El Profesor Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bravado said: Don't you consider Palmeiras firm favourites to take the title? I consider Palmeiras one of the favourites, along with Cruzeiro, Grêmio, Flamengo and Corinthians. They have the deepest squad in Série A and this could be determining to another national title. Having said that, I think most experts vastly overrate Palmeiras. Like I´ve said, they have the deepest squad, but from 1 to 11, how much better than the rest are they? In my opinion, the answer is not much. This is certainly true to central defence, where they still haven´t properly replaced the loss of Yerry Mina. Actually I think Grêmio is the best side in brazilian football. Their defence pair, Geromel and Kanemann is probably the best in the country, Renato the best coach, Luan the best forward and Arthur the best overall player in brazilian football. But they´ll probably focus on the defense of the Copa Libertadores title, like last year, when they could´ve challenged Corinthians but rested their best players in many occasions. Edited April 14, 2018 by El_Loco Quote
Guest Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 I recall most people didn't rate Corinthians last year at the start, as they had sold off a lot of their players. I don't like their style of play at all but I can't deny they are a decent team. Will see how they do without Jo this time around though. I obviously want Flamengo to win it because of Guerrero and Trauco, but Gremio are also a side I'm keen on. Quote
El Profesor Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Blue said: I recall most people didn't rate Corinthians last year at the start, as they had sold off a lot of their players. I don't like their style of play at all but I can't deny they are a decent team. Will see how they do without Jo this time around though. I obviously want Flamengo to win it because of Guerrero and Trauco, but Gremio are also a side I'm keen on. The loss of Jô is still felt indeed. Right now, Corinthians don´t have a reliable striker in their ranks. They´re trying to bring Róger, from Internacional. It would be a decent choice. Róger failed at Inter, but his recent spell at Botafogo was very successful. He is a good striker. Corinthians is also close to losing Maycon. According to the press here, it´s almost a done deal with Shakhtar Donetsk paying 6 million euros for the promissing midfielder. Corinthians is truly a terrible seller. The ukrainians will end up making a lot of money from this deal down the road. I also agree, Corinthians´ brand of football is effective, yet not really appealing. They´re very solid at defence, tactically sound and lose very few points at home. Still, they don´t have much in terms of attack. I´m not saying they don´t deserve to win, on the contrary, they have all the merit to establishing a style of football in their team and sticking with it. My point is that brazilian football needs different ideas, we´re stuck with a very physical and defensive style of play at domestic football. It´s not a coincidence that suddenly creative brazilian midfielders became hard to find. Pragmatism and physical strenght is preferred to technical ability. My hope is that little by little, I´m seeing a new generation of coaches studying more and trying to apply a more new approaches, such as Róger Machado, Zé Ricardo and Fernando Diniz. Also, young midfielders like Arthur, Matheus Rossetto, Evander and Maycon are starting to appear. On Flamengo, they´re a sleeping giant. I mean, they´ve managed to dramatically reduce their debts and to increase their revenue. Along with Palmeiras, Flamengo is the richest team in brazilian football but on the pitch, despite a strong squad and good finances, the results are simply not there yet. Hiring a good coach is vital and should their priority. At the present they´re being coached by an interim after the dismissal of Carpegiani. 1 Quote
Guest Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, El_Loco said: The loss of Jô is still felt indeed. Right now, Corinthians don´t have a reliable striker in their ranks. They´re trying to bring Róger, from Internacional. It would be a decent choice. Róger failed at Inter, but his recent spell at Botafogo was very successful. He is a good striker. Corinthians is also close to losing Maycon. According to the press here, it´s almost a done deal with Shakhtar Donetsk paying 6 million euros for the promissing midfielder. Corinthians is truly a terrible seller. The ukrainians will end up making a lot of money from this deal down the road. I also agree, Corinthians´ brand of football is effective, yet not really appealing. They´re very solid at defence, tactically sound and lose very few points at home. Still, they don´t have much in terms of attack. I´m not saying they don´t deserve to win, on the contrary, they have all the merit to establishing a style of football in their team and sticking with it. My point is that brazilian football needs different ideas, we´re stuck with a very physical and defensive style of play at domestic football. It´s not a coincidence that suddenly creative brazilian midfielders became hard to find. Pragmatism and physical strenght is preferred to technical ability. My hope is that little by little, I´m seeing a new generation of coaches studying more and trying to apply a more new approaches, such as Róger Machado, Zé Ricardo and Fernando Diniz. Also, young midfielders like Arthur, Matheus Rossetto, Evander and Maycon are starting to appear. On Flamengo, they´re a sleeping giant. I mean, they´ve managed to dramatically reduce their debts and to increase their revenue. Along with Palmeiras, Flamengo is the richest team in brazilian football but on the pitch, despite a strong squad and good finances, the results are simply not there yet. Hiring a good coach is vital and should their priority. At the present they´re being coached by an interim after the dismissal of Carpegiani. Brazil has never had a ton of great central midfielders though, at least not compared to their full backs and forwards. Carpegiani I'm convinced was sacked due to his favouritism to domestic players, because if I looked at those results, it doesn't convince me enough to say he deserved the sacking. They really weren't doing all that badly, but the likes of Trauco, Marlos, Cuellar and Berrio were all freezed out by him and they were on high wages. Its like buying a car and continuing to use public transport. It was a baffling appointment to begin with, as he was Flamengo's manager when they beat Liverpool 3-0 in the 1981 Intercontinental Cup final. He's lucky to have not had Guerrero because he can't be benched at that team given he's arguably the best player at club level in the Americas. Quote
Bravado Posted April 15, 2018 Author Posted April 15, 2018 On 14/04/2018 at 04:55, El_Loco said: The full schedule for the 1st round. Cruzeiro vs Grêmio tomorrow is definitely the highlight. Right you were! Grêmio managed to win it, what a great result for them. Quote
El Profesor Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Full schedule for the 2nd round below. I´m intrigued about that Grêmio vs Atlético Paranaense. Atlético has eliminated São Paulo from Copa do Brasil at Morumbi yesterday and is looking like a team that could be the surprise of the year. Quote SAB 21/04/2018 FONTE NOVA 16:00 BAHSAN SAB 21/04/2018 MARACANÃ 19:00 FLAAME DOM 22/04/2018 DURIVAL BRITTO 11:00 PARCOR DOM 22/04/2018 INDEPENDÊNCIA 16:00 CAMVIT DOM 22/04/2018 ARENA CONDÁ 16:00 CHAVAS DOM 22/04/2018 MARACANÃ 16:00 FLUCRU DOM 22/04/2018 CASTELÃO (CE) 16:00 CEASAO DOM 22/04/2018 PACAEMBU 16:00 PALINT DOM 22/04/2018 ARENA DO GRÊMIO 19:00 GRECAP SEG 23/04/2018 ILHA DO RETIRO 20:00 SPOBOT Quote
Guest Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Smashed Newells Old Boys too. Look interesting this year. Sao Paulo look set to underachieve as always. Quote
Guest Posted April 30, 2018 Posted April 30, 2018 Can someone tell me what's going on at Flamengo? Even without Carpegiani, they refuse to play foreigners bar Cuéllar. Now they want to bin off Paolo Guerrero who is the best player in the league just to play Henrique Dourado? Quote
Administrator Stan Posted April 30, 2018 Administrator Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, Blue said: Can someone tell me what's going on at Flamengo? Even without Carpegiani, they refuse to play foreigners bar Cuéllar. Now they want to bin off Paolo Guerrero who is the best player in the league just to play Henrique Dourado? i heard that Guerrero has committed more drug offences so they won't be playing him any time soon. Quote
El Profesor Posted April 30, 2018 Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Blue said: Can someone tell me what's going on at Flamengo? Even without Carpegiani, they refuse to play foreigners bar Cuéllar. Now they want to bin off Paolo Guerrero who is the best player in the league just to play Henrique Dourado? Guerrero is in Switzerland for his trial. He could come back against Inter on Sunday. I don´t think Flamengo should start Guerrero though if he has already an agreement with Palmeiras, as rumoured. Quote
El Profesor Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) That game finished 2-0 to Flamengo over Inter. Guerrero gave an assist. Lucas Paquetá is playing really well and as is the case with any Flamengo player that performs well, many are starting to ask for a Seleção call-up. Tite should at least consider because he is one of the best attacking midfielders in brazilian football. To become the Flamengo´s main player at only 20 is no easy feat. The thing that really impresses me is that it´s not easy to find players in Brazil with the skill and height (1,80m) he has. Fast, tall, strong, extremely skilled, works really hard defending as well. Quite a rare player to find in brazilian football, he plays more like an argentinian. Edited May 7, 2018 by El_Loco 2 Quote
Guest Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 Miguel "not world class technique" Trauco gets his second assist for Flamengo on his first game back. Carpegiani is looking more like a fool by the minute. Quote
El Profesor Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 Róger Guedes to Saudi Arabia would be a waste. Too good. Quote
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