The Athletic - UK Hiring Spree

[Danny]

8 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

How much content is there on a typical day?

Depends what you follow on there but I follow the Prem, Bundesliga and EFL. Seems to be around 4-5 articles a day on there, I imagine as the season picks up and as more of their writers serve notice periods they’ll produce more. It’s very much a work in progress and their Championship features are very much dedicated to a few clubs, Prem stuff is mostly top 6 at the moment but it’s still worth reading I think.

I like match reports and things like that but I also like a lot of behind the scenes journalism and it seems they’re putting a fair bit into getting you interesting stories that aren’t match related

[Eco]

I love the Athletic. One of the better places to find sporting articles here. 

[RandoEFC+]

4 minutes ago, Danny said:

Depends what you follow on there but I follow the Prem, Bundesliga and EFL. Seems to be around 4-5 articles a day on there, I imagine as the season picks up and as more of their writers serve notice periods they’ll produce more. It’s very much a work in progress and their Championship features are very much dedicated to a few clubs, Prem stuff is mostly top 6 at the moment but it’s still worth reading I think.

I like match reports and things like that but I also like a lot of behind the scenes journalism and it seems they’re putting a fair bit into getting you interesting stories that aren’t match related

So obviously they seem to have correspondents for all/most Premier League clubs so can you subscribe to say Everton? And is the Premier League content generic Premier League content or do you also get an article focused on Brighton or Newcastle by following the Premier League?

Sorry for all the questions.

[Danny]

7 minutes ago, RandoEFC said:

So obviously they seem to have correspondents for all/most Premier League clubs so can you subscribe to say Everton? And is the Premier League content generic Premier League content or do you also get an article focused on Brighton or Newcastle by following the Premier League?

Sorry for all the questions.

I think that's the aim but at the moment it's very top 6 centric. Currently there are articles on Utd's former goalkeeper coach Eric Steele around the SAF era, an article on Iwobi to Everton, a foreign Liverpool fan finally getting to see them play, John Stones, Eddie Nketiah to Leeds and how the process unfolded (Arsenal have a fairly unusual way of deciding loans), Lucas Moura, Tyrone Mings rise at Villa, the Ozil/Kolasinic issue, Emilliano Sala.

Some articles outside of the big clubs but mostly dedicated towards them. They're meant to have a journalist for each club so I imagine their eventual game is to provide a "go to place" for detailed reports for each club

[ScoRoss]

 

[Danny]

There is a weird lack of match day reports that I thought would be up by now

[ScoRoss]

12 minutes ago, Danny said:

There is a weird lack of match day reports that I thought would be up by now

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The Athletic doesn’t want reporters racing to get a post-game quote from a head coach to plug into a game summary on deadline. The mandate is to report what can’t be found elsewhere—to get the back story on a trade, to break down the tactical move that tilted a game or the strategic shift that’s shaping a league, and to explore personalities. The standing order, from Mather, Hansmann, and Chief Content Officer Paul Fichtenbaum, a former editor of Sports Illustrated, is to “do the best work of your career.”

“I don’t have to scramble to get something quick off at the buzzer,” says Anthony Slater, who came from the Mercury News to cover the Golden State Warriors. Instead, he takes a few hours after each game to produce a “five observations” column that uses video clips to break down plays and strategy. Katie Strang, a reporter in Grand Rapids, Mich., who came from ESPN, spent much of last year reporting on the trial of Larry Nassar, the former USA Gymnastics and Michigan State University doctor convicted of sexual assault and child pornography. “I always tell people, ‘I write much less but work much harder,’ ” she says.

 

[Danny]

8 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

 

Except there are no match reports of any kind

[ScoRoss]

5 minutes ago, Danny said:

Except there are no match reports of any kind

Why do a traditional match report that people could just find on the BBC or elsewhere?

16 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

The mandate is to report what can’t be found elsewhere

Michael Cox breaks down games, and I've mostly read their SPFL section which highlights individuals performances or trends from recent games.

I can't say I've spent much time within their EPL or EFL sections to get a full picture of what they are doing there.

[Danny]

21 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

Why do a traditional match report that people could just find on the BBC or elsewhere?

Michael Cox breaks down games, and I've mostly read their SPFL section which highlights individuals performances or trends from recent games.

I can't say I've spent much time within their EPL or EFL sections to get a full picture of what they are doing there.

Because I’m paying them money to brings me good content? It’s not as if you can find in-depth break downs of matches elsewhere...and when they’ve supposedly nicked everyone’s best writers surely they’ll have the best content on those reports?

[Stan]

8 minutes ago, Danny said:

Because I’m paying them money to brings me good content? It’s not as if you can find in-depth break downs of matches elsewhere...and when they’ve supposedly nicked everyone’s best writers surely they’ll have the best content on those reports?

I think you'd be wise to amend your reason of why you pay them.

They bring content that other journos don't. Like when Henry Winter did that promo stuff 2-3 years ago for getting more in-depth interviews and analysis in to clubs/players/staff etc.

You can find in-depth break downs of matches on BBC/Sky and there's enough on there I'd say for your general football-loving fan (most of us on here really). 

They've nabbed loads of writes, decent ones at that, for their ability to write and give different content, not just a fancy match report. 

[Danny]

12 minutes ago, Stan said:

I think you'd be wise to amend your reason of why you pay them.

They bring content that other journos don't. Like when Henry Winter did that promo stuff 2-3 years ago for getting more in-depth interviews and analysis in to clubs/players/staff etc.

You can find in-depth break downs of matches on BBC/Sky and there's enough on there I'd say for your general football-loving fan (most of us on here really). 

They've nabbed loads of writes, decent ones at that, for their ability to write and give different content, not just a fancy match report. 

You must realise how ridiculous an idea it is that a sporting publication focusing on football doesn’t cover football matches? Specifically has reporters per club but they don’t cover the match?

You can’t find in-depth break downs on the BBC or Sky. Michael Cox used to do them on his blog, that’s the sort of match report I’d expect from something like The Athletic all things considered.

You can’t say I should expect content that nobody else does and then when I ask for in-depth breakdowns of matches call it fancy reporting. Complete contradiction

[Stan]

Just now, Danny said:

You must realise how ridiculous an idea it is that a sporting publication focusing on football doesn’t cover football matches? Specifically has reporters per club but they don’t cover the match?

You can’t find in-depth break downs on the BBC not Sky. Michael Cox used to do them on his blog, that’s the sort of match report I’d expect from something like The Athletic all things considered.

You can’t say I should expect content that nobody else does and then when I ask for in-depth breakdowns of matches call it fancy reporting. Complete contradiction

No contradiction.

You know what they offer. You choose to pay. Then you ask for something else.

It's like going to a car showroom. You know a car doesn't have Sat Nav. You buy it. Then go back to the showroom and ask the sales guy, 'where's the Sat Nav mate?'

Just because The Athletic doesn't do what you want it to do, does not mean it's not providing a different service to anything else out there.

[Danny]

2 minutes ago, Stan said:

No contradiction.

You know what they offer. You choose to pay. Then you ask for something else.

It's like going to a car showroom. You know a car doesn't have Sat Nav. You buy it. Then go back to the showroom and ask the sales guy, 'where's the Sat Nav mate?'

Just because The Athletic doesn't do what you want it to do, does not mean it's not providing a different service to anything else out there.

You’ve created your own argument Stan.

All I’m saying is that in-depth (statistical analysis included, tactical break downs included) match reports are not found everywhere and I’d have thought they’d supply that seeing as that sort of reporting is severely lacking among mainstream news outlets.

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